Why Shouldn't I buy a Teewing Flux?

[Yotaismygame]

I'm in the PNW and ride/build at a freeride trail sytem. Long travel is a must. I have most the parts needed to build up a bike but will need some take offs to sell my current emtb. I about pulled the trigger on the new propain yesterday but I've had my eye on the teewing. I like the travel, comes with all the top level avinox parts, its mullet, carbon, not too heavy and the configuration I want is only $6100 before shipping.

The Propain is more expensive and comes with lesser parts.
Teewing in my mind is not a known brand.

I really don't want to conform to these outrageous bike prices we have right now. So sticking to under 7k (which is outrageous) is what I'm after.

The propain I speced was the base with just brakes and shock upgrades and 600wh battery and it was $6800. I would pick it up in person.

 

[Mars2]

Because its Ugly! Why make simple design when you can overcomplicate it

Sorry I'm fully less is more when it come to design.

 

[Yotaismygame]

Because its Ugly! Why make simple design when you can overcomplicate it

Sorry I'm fully less is more when it come to design.

Personally I don't think it's ugly but thank you for the reply.

 

[iJak]

you should 100% buy a teewing. yes they are made in china but they've got their QC processes in place. They might be a newer brand, but that's how you also get the lower price because you don't pay for the name premium.


It comes with 800wh battery which might better serve you as a builder. The frame is also cat 5 rated and comes with some warranty (not close to the industry best, but again they are a smaller brand).

 

[Yotaismygame]

you should 100% buy a teewing. yes they are made in china but they've got their QC processes in place. They might be a newer brand, but that's how you also get the lower price because you don't pay for the name premium.


It comes with 800wh battery which might better serve you as a builder. The frame is also cat 5 rated and comes with some warranty (not close to the industry best, but again they are a smaller brand).

I'm not too concerned about the battery size but 800wh is nice. My average ride is under 3500vert and I don't see myself using anywhere near the power the m2s can provide. Longer rides are usually 5500 vert and If needed ill just charge up during lunch.

 

[slickrock]

I'm in the PNW and ride/build at a freeride trail sytem. Long travel is a must. I have most the parts needed to build up a bike but will need some take offs to sell my current emtb. I about pulled the trigger on the new propain yesterday but I've had my eye on the teewing. I like the travel, comes with all the top level avinox parts, its mullet, carbon, not too heavy and the configuration I want is only $6100 before shipping.

The Propain is more expensive and comes with lesser parts.
Teewing in my mind is not a known brand.

I really don't want to conform to these outrageous bike prices we have right now. So sticking to under 7k (which is outrageous) is what I'm after.

The propain I speced was the base with just brakes and shock upgrades and 600wh battery and it was $6800. I would pick it up in person.

Reasons pointing in this direction:

1. One of pretty much only two LT HP Avinox bikes in the US at the moment. Other being Forbidden. Velduro still has no US distributor.
2. Flux only frame-only option for LT HP Avinox here.
3. If you are not down with the Forbidden F/R, long chainstay geometry
4. You don't care about not having published kinematic graphs
5. You are OK with fledgling brand history and with that brand name
6. You are cheapskate with bike acquisition (edit: like a lot of us)

 

[Yotaismygame]

Reasons pointing in this direction:

1. One of pretty much only two LT HP Avinox bikes in the US at the moment. Other being Forbidden. Velduro still has no US distributor.
2. Flux only frame-only option for LT HP Avinox here.
3. If you are not down with the Forbidden F/R, long chainstay geometry
4. You don't care about not having published kinematic graphs
5. You are OK fledgling brand history and with that brand name
6. You are cheapskate with bike acquisition

Understood. The Forbidden looks sick. The base model pricing is a little much. And nobody paying for a Ebike right now is a cheapskate. Have you ever mentioned to a non biker how much you spent on a bike? They'll think you're crazy.

 

[Mart-e]

Is a HP going to give you the riding feedback experience you are looking for?
VPP Propain may offer to a lighter handling lift agility over trail feel.

 

[Astro66]

Because its Ugly! Why make simple design when you can overcomplicate it

Sorry I'm fully less is more when it come to design.

You cannot be serious. The lines on the Propain aren't even close to lining up. It looks like they have taken the rear triangle from the wrong size bike and thrown it on.

Now the Propain is a fantastic bike. The form should be amazing. But ask any object designer's point of view. And It's a mess.

Regarding the OP.

If recognised brand is important. Then Propain is where you want to go. But if want the most bang for buck. Then Teewing is your bike. But there is definitely a greater risk buying the Teewing.

I'm thinking you are looking at the alloy Propain. So weight is a factor. Then the other factor is the High Pivot. The Teewing should absorb bumps better, with the rearward axle travel. It should also feel more stable as the wheelbase grows under compression. The downside is it won't be as playful.

So it really comes down to your adversity to risk, and what you are getting a long travel enduro for. I'm a bang for buck guy, who already has a really playful All Mountain Amflow that I'm keeping. So I'm looking for a downhill plough to add to the stable. I think the Teewing will do this best. But if I didn't have the Amflow. I'd probably choose the Propain, if that was the only choice. Because I'd actually get the Mondraker Zendit in that case.

 

[Yotaismygame]

I bought a propain. Surprised it was in stock. They sold out yesterday. I really wanted to pull the trigger on a teewing but propain is only an hour from me. It made more sense other than value. But even then in today’s market the propain has good value also.

 

[Astro66]

I bought a propain. Surprised it was in stock. They sold out yesterday. I really wanted to pull the trigger on a teewing but propain is only an hour from me. It made more sense other than value. But even then in today’s market the propain has good value also.

If I lived in Nth America. I would get the Propain or Forbidden. Teewing has a great distributor in Australia. I have bought lots of product from them. And they have been fantastic. So I was unconcerned.

 

[downunderdallas]

I'm not too concerned about the battery size but 800wh is nice. My average ride is under 3500vert and I don't see myself using anywhere near the power the m2s can provide. Longer rides are usually 5500 vert and If needed ill just charge up during lunch.

My mates all ride Amflows and I ride a Transition Relay our rides used to be about the same 1100m vert now they are still kicking on and my bike is done as I am doing my best to keep up with their 2.5 times power and almost double battery. You might find you do more vert once you have the Avinox.

 

[Oldfella]

Why are people worried about what they consider a funny name {Teewing}. I'm sure it China it makes sense.The company has been around for 15 years and China is making some of the best quality bike on the market now.If there is a distributor in your area I would buy one, who had heard of Avonix a few years ago.

 

[Mars2]

You cannot be serious. The lines on the Propain aren't even close to lining up. It looks like they have taken the rear triangle from the wrong size bike and thrown it on.

Now the Propain is a fantastic bike. The form should be amazing. But ask any object designer's point of view. And It's a mess.

Regarding the OP.

If recognised brand is important. Then Propain is where you want to go. But if want the most bang for buck. Then Teewing is your bike. But there is definitely a greater risk buying the Teewing.

I'm thinking you are looking at the alloy Propain. So weight is a factor. Then the other factor is the High Pivot. The Teewing should absorb bumps better, with the rearward axle travel. It should also feel more stable as the wheelbase grows under compression. The downside is it won't be as playful.

So it really comes down to your adversity to risk, and what you are getting a long travel enduro for. I'm a bang for buck guy, who already has a really playful All Mountain Amflow that I'm keeping. So I'm looking for a downhill plough to add to the stable. I think the Teewing will do this best. But if I didn't have the Amflow. I'd probably choose the Propain, if that was the only choice. Because I'd actually get the Mondraker Zendit in that case.

For me but we are all different this part of the bike make that I can never buy this bike look like a Louis XVI furniture

if it was simple flowing design like red line I would start looking at it

I'm also not a fan of the Propain design but at least their the design is dictated by the Suspension setup. So I can understand it even if it's not the most beautiful to me. The Flux has gimmick like Louis XVI chair that has no reason to be their so many brand design this suspension set up so much more smooth and nice. But some love those kind of old style furniture. Not me. The OP ask why he should not buy so I answer why if I was at is place I would never ever buy this bike. But that's just an advice lost in so many other'

 

[brentonb]

That is one of the best parts. It is the perfect handle to pick the bike up and lift over things or turn it around. I like it being there.

 

[Astro66]

Why are people worried about what they consider a funny name {Teewing}. I'm sure it China it makes sense.The company has been around for 15 years and China is making some of the best quality bike on the market now.If there is a distributor in your area I would buy one, who had heard of Avonix a few years ago.

I bought the Flux, and it didn't even exist on the Teewing website. Sure it's there now. But distributors were selling it and there was nothing.

There is no kinematic data. The accessories consist of a shock pump and multitool. Parts consist of a stem and handlebar. Where are going to get a seatstay of chainstay if you crack one ?

They have no dealers listed on the website. And the warranty literally says if you adjust the bike without their permission, it's voided. So not telling people there is a level of risk buying these bikes, would be irresponsible.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I think we all naturally have some aversion to purchasing a product with a name were not that familiar with. It's been hammered into us with marketing for years.

Like when the Amflow first came out - errr - why do I want AMFLOW written on the side of my bike, sounds weird -now we accept it.

If the TeeWing was branded differently, we'd probably be more instantly accepting.

 

[Astro66]

if it was simple flowing design like red line I would start looking at it

The shock would be unsupported in one of it's axis if they did that. And it would interfere with the linkage.

The point of the Y joint is to make it stronger. It is an Enduro, you do realise ?

look like a Louis XVI furniture

Care to post a photo of Louis XVI furniture that looks anything like that ? Because that furniture is renown for it's curved supports. And I don't see any curves in that Y.

 

[Astro66]

If the TeeWing was branded differently, we'd probably be more instantly accepting.

First time I saw the Teewing Turbo Force posted as an Avinox Motored EMTB. I thought it was a scam.

Now there is a factory Teewing Team, that has won World Cup events on the Turbo Force. You don't bat an eyelid.

 

[Zimmerframe]

The shock would be unsupported in one of it's axis if they did that. And it would interfere with the linkage.

The point of the Y joint is to make it stronger. It is an Enduro, you do realise ?

Care to post a photo of Louis XVI furniture that looks anything like that ? Because that furniture is renown for it's curved supports. And I don't see any curves in that Y.

I generally prefer a straight top tube, but don't mind the Teewing, it has a certain feel of Biomimicry.

OK, with the power of AI slop as I'm too lazy to do it myself ...

The TeeWing Louis XVI edition (worryingly I can see @Astro66 riding this.... it seems to follow on well from the Liberache edition !).

 

[Astro66]

I generally prefer a straight top tube, but don't mind the Teewing, it has a certain feel of Biomimicry.

OK, with the power of AI slop as I'm too lazy to do it myself ...

The TeeWing Louis XVI edition (worryingly I can see @Astro66 riding this.... it seems to follow on well from the Liberache edition !).

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That looks more like one of those decorated Indian Trucks.

 

[TG73]

I'm a bit nervous about the durability of the idler, sounds like people are having issues on M1 forbidden and that's a company used to designing high pivot bikes.
150Nm is a lot of load on a very small bearing/shaft. If you're happy with the design in general and think that part looks robust then go for it.

 

[Astro66]

I'm a bit nervous about the durability of the idler, sounds like people are having issues on M1 forbidden and that's a company used to designing high pivot bikes.
150Nm is a lot of load on a very small bearing/shaft. If you're happy with the design in general and think that part looks robust then go for it.

Looks a fairly sizeable shaft through the bearing on the Flux. And a pretty hefty bearing. I'm guessing a 6903 bearing.

Anyway. 1st thing I'll be doing is getting a spare bearing. The idler looks the same as the Trek Slash. It's a 19T. Forbidden and Velduro are running a smaller one.

 

[Ndanger]

Why are people worried about what they consider a funny name {Teewing}. I'm sure it China it makes sense.The company has been around for 15 years and China is making some of the best quality bike on the market now.If there is a distributor in your area I would buy one, who had heard of Avonix a few years ago.

I did not realize that they have been around for so long, I had origionally thought they were a new company. "The parent company, Tower (HK) Industrial Corporation, was established in 2014, and Shenzhen Teewing Industrial Co. has been operating since then. As of 2026, that puts the company at about 12 years old."

 

[F4Flyer]

Do you have local dealer support if something goes wrong with the motor or battery? That is always my concern with eMTBs. I would not, if the answer happened to be No.

 

[BretCro]

I bought a Teewing Turbo Force Pro a few months ago and love it! Darren at DripEBikes did a total frame/motor up custom build for me. He was amazing to work with on the build, great support with a few issues (damaged during shipping), and the pricing was untouchable, by far best bang for the buck. I was also hesitant to buy an unknown brand, but Darren has made it all work out wonderfully.

 

[eCologne]

Imy 2 pence:
I had a ebike with idler.
At my, the chain jumped off too much. The idler broke some day and was expensive.
Never ever a bike with idler...

 

[sjturner2112]

i've seen a few reviews from reviewers i trust who say it's not a great bike. Brian Cahal in particular hated the geo. Make sure it's the bike for you before you make a 5500 mistake. Propain is tried and true, is an excellent brand whose bikes have great geometry, are very proportional. Propain also has a great rep. The bits and pieces and price don't matter if the frame is not right for you.

 

[Astro66]

Imy 2 pence:
I had a ebike with idler.
At my, the chain jumped off too much. The idler broke some day and was expensive.
Never ever a bike with idler...

If you look at the photo of the idler. You can see in this design, it is completely contained within a chain guide, and cannot come off.

The idler is AUD$69. And in stock at stores in Sydney.

I can also get that bearing for AUD$10.

I understand that if you are expecting a LBS to do all the work on your EMTB. It can be more expensive. But there is a video showing how to remove the idler. It just requires an Allen Key. It's very simple.

The design of the idler in the Flux looks extremely robust, compared to the Velduro and Forbidden. As I said. It looks like the idler used in the Trek Slash. So I'm not expecting any additional issues compared with normal transmission issues.

That said. I'm a huge fan of ditching the entire chain and derailleur setup, and going to internal gears and a belt. But we're not there yet.

 

[Astro66]

i trust who say it's not a great bike. Brian Cahal in particular hated the geo.

Brian also didn't like the Forbidden. Calling it "A Chore". So I'm not really sure he's the guy to trust when buying a High Pivot EMTB.

And what was wrong with Josh Gleave's reveiw ? He loved the geo and absolutely ripped it up on the Flux. He said this :

"The high-pivot mullet setup worked really well for cornering, and the rear end just tracks the ground properly. It feels planted, especially when things get rough.

On steep, rough terrain, it’s super forgiving. Honestly, it rides more like a downhill bike than you’d expect from an eMTB, which was pretty wild. Climbing-wise, no one’s getting past you with that boost mode. There’s loads of power. The battery life was solid as well, just kept going all day without any stress about running out.

The riding position felt comfortable straight away, and the geometry just works. Overall, it’s a bike you can properly beat on; it takes it all in stride.”