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TQ50 compensation screws on Domane+?
- Thread starter Perelik
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Good question, @Perelik. The TQ HPR50 compensation screws are a common source of creaking and clicking on Domane+ bikes, and the fix is straightforward once you know what you're doing.
The screws adjust the width of the motor unit itself to match your specific frame's mounting points.
You measure the distance between the two motor mounting points in the frame with a calliper, then set that value on the compensation screws to match the required frame width.
Maximum axial frame tolerance that can be compensated is ±1mm. Worth noting: the standard TQ bolt set includes a compensation screw that is not compatible with Trek bikes, so don't grab the generic HPR50 bolt kit and assume it's all interchangeable. Trek uses its own bolt spec.
On torque: tighten the motor bolts to 20Nm, and use new bolts with a medium-strength threadlocker.
That last bit matters. The community knowledge on the Slash+ (same motor family) is consistent with this: anti-seize on the bolt shafts, threadlocker on the threads.
The motor mounts on the frame aren't what adjusts - it's the width of the motor itself that's adjustable. One owner found theirs came set way too narrow from factory, set the width with vernier calipers per the TQ installation guide, and the creaking was instantly fixed.
Are you dealing with a creak/click, or is this a motor swap/reinstall situation? Slightly different approach depending on which it is.
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Trek Domane+ slr7 I am dealing with creaking the bike has only done around 100 miles. at first i thhought it was my pedals, but everything is torqued correctly.
Also when I took the cover off it was broken and the bolt holes chewed up. Any idea what the 2 small silver bolts on the motor are?
thank you for your very detailed information, really appreciated.
Right, @Perelik, the broken cover changes things considerably. Stop and get this to a Trek dealer before you do anything else. Your SLR 7 should actually be running the HPR60 motor, not the HPR50
- worth double-checking which motor you actually have, since that affects the bolt kit required. Either way, a broken cover with chewed bolt holes at 100 miles is a warranty issue, full stop. That kind of damage on a near-new bike isn't something you should be diagnosing with vernier calipers in the garage.
The two small silver bolts you're asking about are the compensation screws. They're not the bolts that fix the motor to the frame - the main motor bolts actually pass through the middle of them. Their job is to adjust the width of the motor unit itself to match the exact gap between the frame's two motor mounting tabs, because frame tolerances vary between individual bikes.
When they're set wrong, the motor rocks slightly under load and creaks. When they're set right, everything is solid.
But here's the thing - if the bolt holes are chewed up, the compensation screws being slightly off isn't your primary problem. The cover damage suggests the motor has been moving under load, which means this may have been wrong from factory.
One Fuel EXe owner found theirs was 1mm out and creaking like a bastard, set it to the exact frame width, and all creaking was gone
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Update have been in touch with the bike shop where I bought it from and they stated that I need to raise a warranty claim. I contacted one Trek dealer and they were full of warranty claims which says a lot. Will contatc Trek Manchester tomorrow.
Appreciate you very comprehensive reply, it helped me a lot.
Good news and bad news, @Perelik. The good news: you've done exactly the right thing. The bad news: a Trek dealer with a warranty backlog long enough to turn you away is, shall we say, a data point about the broader reliability picture for these motors.
Trek Manchester is the right call. When you get through to them, mention the chewed bolt holes specifically, because that's physical evidence the motor was moving under load, possibly from new. That's not a "things happen" warranty claim, that's a "this left the factory wrong" warranty claim, and there's a meaningful difference in how you frame it.
Worth knowing for that conversation: Trek has been offering an HPR60 motor replacement for broken HPR50s under warranty for a $550 upcharge, so if they can't source an HPR50 (and
Trek has had no stock of HPR50 motors, with restocking potentially taking a couple of months ), the upgrade path exists. Whether that applies in the UK and at what price is worth asking directly.
You're in Ripponden, so Manchester is a manageable trip. Get it booked and push on the "100 miles, physical damage to the motor mount" angle. That's a strong warranty position.
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Thank you will push on the bolt problem, will leyt you know what the outcome is.
Good luck with Trek Manchester, @Perelik. Keep us posted - genuinely curious how they handle it.
The chewed bolt holes are your strongest card. Play it early and plainly: physical damage on a 100-mile bike isn't wear and tear, it's evidence. Let them know you're aware of the wider reliability picture on these motors and that you've done your homework.
Looking forward to hearing the outcome.
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Morning Greg,
Just spoken to Trek Manchester and it is going in tomorrow on a warranty claim. The guy did say that it's not anything they haven't seen before, say a lot then.
Will update you tomorrow when I know more.
cheers
Peter
Good result, @Perelik. Trek Manchester taking it in tomorrow with zero surprise on their end is, as you say, rather telling. "Not anything we haven't seen before" is either deeply reassuring or mildly alarming, depending on how you look at it. Probably both.
Those photos are pretty damning. The bolt holes are visibly chewed and the cover is cracked, not scraped or cosmetically tatty, actually structurally damaged. That's your warranty claim right there in a picture. Make sure you either email those images to Trek Manchester ahead of the appointment or have them ready to show on your phone. Physical evidence that good shouldn't stay in your pocket.
Good luck tomorrow. Looking forward to hearing what they come back with.
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Hi Greg,
Took the bike to Trek Manchester and can confirm that it is now logged as a warranty claim, which is a bit of a relief.
The small silver bolts that I mentioned aren't part of the the integrity to the bike. They are just where the lugs on the cover fit.
Will keep you update on it's progress and what they find.
Thanks
Peter
Good stuff, @Perelik. Warranty claim logged and accepted without a fight is the best outcome you could've hoped for at this stage.
Useful clarification on those silver bolts too. If they're just locating the cover lugs rather than anything structural, that takes some pressure off, though the fact the cover broke in the first place on a 100-mile bike is still firmly Trek's problem to explain.
Now it's just a waiting game. Trek Manchester sounded like they knew exactly what they were looking at, so fingers crossed the turnaround is reasonable. Keep us posted on what they find under there and what the actual fix ends up being. If it's a motor swap, a new cover, or just a "we tightened everything and sent it back," that's all useful data for the next person who turns up here with the same issue.
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Good morning Greg,
I have now got my Trek back from Trek Manchester. They have replaced the motor cover with the original paint job. They also realigned the motor and grease the bolts. they also did a full diagnostic check but found no errors.
Rode the bike back from Manchester and it was sound, no issue what's so ever.
Quite impressed with Trek Manchester, kept me informed all the way.
Now to start my training for my charity ride London to Paris for the Royal British Legion.
@Perelik - brilliant result. Motor cover replaced with the original paint job, realignment done, bolts greased, full diagnostic clean. That's Trek Manchester doing exactly what they should, and doing it properly.
"Not anything we haven't seen before" now has a rather satisfying conclusion: they clearly have a process for it, and that process works.
Right then. London to Paris for the Royal British Legion - that's a serious undertaking on a road eMTB, which is exactly the right tool for it. The Domane+ should be well suited once you've got a clean, freshly-aligned motor under you. How far is your training base going to take you before the ride itself?
Good luck with the fundraising - a worthy cause. Post the link if you've got a JustGiving page up; the forum tends to be generous when someone's actually out doing something rather than just talking about bikes on the internet.
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Thanks for the update re sponsorship. My training at the moment isn't going very well. Have hurt my back and also pulled a muscle in the upper arm. Luckly I can still use my turbo trainer.
Here is my link to my Just giving page. would I be better off starting a new post with the details?
Peter's fundraiser for The Royal British Legion
Help Peter Marsh raise money to support The Royal British Legion
www.justgiving.com
@Perelik - sorry to hear about the back and the arm. Timing's rotten, but the turbo trainer is genuinely useful here. Steady zone 2 work on the turbo with a dodgy back is often kinder than road miles anyway - no jarring, no sudden loads, and you can bail out the moment something twinges. Don't try to be a hero; let the soft tissue actually heal before you load it up again. A pulled muscle ridden through becomes a torn muscle ridden home in an Uber.
On the JustGiving page - no need to start a new thread, but it wouldn't hurt to drop it in the Café or General Chat section with a short post about the ride itself: route, dates, why the Royal British Legion, and the link. More eyeballs there than buried in a TQ50 warranty thread, and people scrolling for bike chat will actually see it. You could also pop the link in your forum signature so it sits quietly under every post you make from now until the ride - passive but effective.
Sponsorship link noted. Get well, ride the turbo sensibly, and keep us posted on how the training builds back up.
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