crank position is key! though it is very stealth especially the downtube sizeWhere's the motor?that is the least ebike looking ebike I've seen.
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crank position is key! though it is very stealth especially the downtube sizeWhere's the motor?that is the least ebike looking ebike I've seen.
i got quite a few replies correcting me on this, i regret my words and feel the wrath of my associatesBreak the mold? Shimano did this when they launched the EP8/6
Down tuning is the main reason i don't care how high the watts go. Its also nice to be able to adjust for rides with friends so everyone equals out and can stay together.when you have a 800wh battery the weight difference is a measly 700g and you gain the option to tune it down to tq levels, but with more omph, better sensors and better software and all the benefits of running an axs derailleur wired. easy decision in my opinion...
Backwards compatibility would probably force other brands *caugh* (Specialized) *caugh* to do the same. Its easily the biggest issue with e-bikes right now.Backwards compatible apparently
Hope that's the case because if so it'll extend the lifespan of my Forbidden by a couple of years.
That and I'm also not sure if motor brands commit to a certain number of years of support and spare parts. Like phones for example you're guaranteed 7 years of security updates for example.Backwards compatibility would probably force other brands *caugh* (Specialized) *caugh* to do the same. Its easily the biggest issue with e-bikes right now.
I've seen people with a 2 year old $10K paper weight because the motor is dead. That is a giant pill to swallow.
One would hope that being a "tech" company, that DJI (or their now subsidiary company - Avinox) makes all the motors backward compatible. Given their focus is motors and tech and not bikes, Amflow being the exception, then it would make sense to leverage motor replacements as a business model.That and I'm also not sure if motor brands commit to a certain number of years of support and spare parts. Like phones for example you're guaranteed 7 years of security updates for example.
You'd be shit out of luck if after 4 years spare parts are no longer available for the $10,000 purchase you made.
Only problem is, the bike brands will not want their motor if it doesn't help them turn over bikes. Hopefully DJI is backwards compatible anyway, and play the long game. I think in the long run you would definitely win as a motor maker if you manage to do this. It would be a very big influence in my own purchasing decisions, I like to be free to fix my stuffOne would hope that being a "tech" company, that DJI (or their now subsidiary company - Avinox) makes all the motors backward compatible. Given their focus is motors and tech and not bikes, Amflow being the exception, then it would make sense to leverage motor replacements as a business model.
Your motor burns out, easy, order another and replace. Companies like Giant and Specialized have a vested interest in making you turn over your bikes, they sell the "package".
Avinox only makes the motor, they don't care which bike it's attached to. Whether more orders come via bike manufacturers or shops/riders, matters not. They are still selling motors... oh and you would have to upgrade the controllers and display of course!!
The bafang motors (M500, M510, M600, M620) have the same fixations points, the same wiring (connectors) since they are on the market. In add all necessary spare parts to maintain or to be upgrade if possible are available (+- 1 year after new rev exit).Backwards compatibility would probably force other brands *caugh* (Specialized) *caugh* to do the same. Its easily the biggest issue with e-bikes right now.
I've seen people with a 2 year old $10K paper weight because the motor is dead. That is a giant pill to swallow.
I think most likely not. I think the new motor will be the new flagship and the current one will be positioned as the budget option a la EP6/EP801.Seems like m2 is a low power small battery package?
avinox is the hottest motor this year and everybody and their mum wants it so they are in a more comfortable position to have it their way instead of the oem wayOnly problem is, the bike brands will not want their motor if it doesn't help them turn over bikes. Hopefully DJI is backwards compatible anyway, and play the long game. I think in the long run you would definitely win as a motor maker if you manage to do this. It would be a very big influence in my own purchasing decisions, I like to be free to fix my stuff
Im looking for the same ,on long summer rides Im looking for range. Several of my regular rides are just possible with 800 battery on tour +Down tuning is the main reason i don't care how high the watts go. Its also nice to be able to adjust for rides with friends so everyone equals out and can stay together.
My guess would be the cheaper option is slightly heavier due to cheaper materials used and to give better heat management.View attachment 179264Definitely something being hinted at in their configurator...
All the designs are identical; it’s just a copy-and-paste of the new BH they’re launching with Avinox and the same routes. By the way, the M2 is an entry-level engine; there’s another one above itWhyte DJI Prototype
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Pretty sure Whyte design their own frames. I highly doubt they are buying catalogue frames that are available to other manufactures. Have you got a pic of the BH?All the designs are identical; it’s just a copy-and-paste of the new BH they’re launching with Avinox and the same routes. By the way, the M2 is an entry-level engine; there’s another one above it![]()
They do design their own. This new one looks like the whyte elyte with a couple of small tweaks. Will be a weapon, loved the elytePretty sure Whyte design their own frames. I highly doubt they are buying catalogue frames that are available to other manufactures. Have you got a pic of the BH?
There are modes other than turbo you know!Disappointing that they arnt speccing bigger batteries. An M2 motor would easily drain a 600Wh battery in less than 30minutes of constant climbing...
Yes obviously there isn't only turbo, we have boost also!There are modes other than turbo you know!
I think with 1,300w on tap it's gonna be important to tune your modes and cycle through them as needed so you're not wasting juice needlessly.
It's getting to the point where governing bodies are going to start making regulations that impact all of us!This is just pure crazy. Who needs that much power ?
Was already posted (on this page even). Do people even read threads before they post these days?