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Just cannot bring myself to buy such a shit looking frame. Have Gen 3 S Works & would like to update/ upgrade, but never to that eyesore. Wake up Spesh, you had 2 colour ways for S Works framesets, why not now?To me, that S-Works in the Gloss Silver Speckle Over Carbon color looks like a park bench covered in bird droppings. View attachment 178099View attachment 178100
It's lots of other "much better" ebikes on the market so what's the problem except to moan over something you don't like but others do.Just cannot bring myself to buy such a shit looking frame. Have Gen 3 S Works & would like to update/ upgrade, but never to that eyesore. Wake up Spesh, you had 2 colour ways for S Works framesets, why not now?
Such a fun bike to ride, so responsive, at my level of riding, easy to put it where I want. Love that thing. I love the look of it, the finish, the frame, the geo. So pumped!Just cannot bring myself to buy such a shit looking frame. Have Gen 3 S Works & would like to update/ upgrade, but never to that eyesore. Wake up Spesh, you had 2 colour ways for S Works framesets, why not now?
Beautiful agreed. Did you get your shop activate the class 3? Game changer for me. Congratulations on new bike and awesome truck tooSuch a fun bike to ride, so responsive, at my level of riding, easy to put it where I want. Love that thing. I love the look of it, the finish, the frame, the geo. So pumped!
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No I didn’t he them to activate Class 3 yet.Beautiful agreed. Did you get your shop activate the class 3? Game changer for me. Congratulations on new bike and awesome truck too
I would rather take that truckSuch a fun bike to ride, so responsive, at my level of riding, easy to put it where I want. Love that thing. I love the look of it, the finish, the frame, the geo. So pumped!
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This bike had to either bring something new to the market or be cheap.
It did neither for me and looks like a 2024 bike.
Whyte, Amflow and Santa Cruz
They both ride identical..I would rather take that truck![]()
Easier to remove and cover up the hole too for travelling with bike.Has everyone forgotten about the Gen 3 Levo bump? Caused by tipping motor up to so battery could be removed? Now we don’t have the bump, but it is way easier to remove the battery!
I take bothI would rather take that truck![]()
actually I can activate it in Settings. Used it yesterday to ride back to the car, oh my, game changer indeed.Beautiful agreed. Did you get your shop activate the class 3? Game changer for me. Congratulations on new bike and awesome truck too
I bought the expert In black and I frikken love it I’ve got the Sworks Gen 4 in green and they are both completely different rides , the. Sworks wants to take off when I ride it on a jump line and the R wants to stay on the ground . The R iv got , Put on One up V3 dropper , I stuck look Ti pedals on out lighter handle bars and stem lighter seat (sworks) also XX cranks and at the moment it’s at 21.7 kg with the 600 wat battery it will drop to. 20.7 and I cannot emphasise enough how agile and fun this bike is , in a flat single track segment (one that lost guys use to measure thier capabilities on at our trails I dropped 20 seconds as apposed to my Sworks But to get the R to do jumps it’s (and this is my experience might not be yours who ever is reading this) it wants to stick to the groundIt's lots of other "much better" ebikes on the market so what's the problem except to moan over something you don't like but others do.
I bought the expert In black and I frikken love it I’ve got the Sworks Gen 4 in green and they are both completely different rides , the. Sworks wants to take off when I ride it on a jump line and the R wants to stay on the ground . The R iv got , Put on One up V3 dropper , I stuck look Ti pedals on out lighter handle bars and stem lighter seat (sworks) also XX cranks and at the moment it’s at 21.7 kg with the 600 wat battery it will drop to. 20.7 and I cannot emphasise enough how agile and fun this bike is , in a flat single track segment (one that lost guys use to measure thier capabilities on at our trails I dropped 20 seconds as apposed to my Sworks But to get the R to do jumps it’s (and this is my experience might not be yours who ever is reading this) it wants to stick to the ground
Any way if you don’t own one don’t comment cause you don’t know what the bike rides like
Ps I’m sticking Hope Evo 4 Gr4 brakes on (weight is the same as SRAM) today she gets the Industry 9 hydra 2 hubs in blue (they are 10 grams lighter than the i9 1/1 hubs (but I never got them for that got them cause they frikken awesome aswell also popping on a blue woolftooth seat collar and blue dropper remote from woolftooth will update with pics when done Don’t care what the moaners and groaners say this thing is sexy
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I was going to say nice bike, but you told us not to comment if we don't own one
My guess is your S-works has faster rebound, maybe more compression, because generally speaking a lighter + shorter travel bike should be less stuck to the ground.
Thank you Iva actually got the Chris King 50th anniversary hubset on my Sworks (they gold ) that’s good suggestion for the colour coding , I’ll pop a pick with the blue against the black once they onlooks good in black! 20kg with 600wh is a good weight! blue hubs is the only bit i wouldnt be keen on surely bronze to match the decals? lovely bike!
With the already one year delayed battery how much longer are you willing to wait?with the 600 wat battery it will drop to. 20.7
Iv had to change my rims found out the hole count on the Industy nine rear hub , ( I had them from a previous order that I never used) so dropping 400 Gr just on rim changeWith the already one year delayed battery how much longer are you willing to wait?
To respond on the lighter part I disagreeI was going to say nice bike, but you told us not to comment if we don't own one
My guess is your S-works has faster rebound, maybe more compression, because generally speaking a lighter + shorter travel bike should be less stuck to the ground.
I am no expert so above is just my experienceTo respond on the lighter part I disagree
The heavier the bike the easier it is to jump
I know it sounds counterintuitive but have you riden the Levo gen4 turbo mode I flyalso the R is a shorter in most areas starting with the the frame
Reach is shorter top tube length is shorter front Center shorter etc etc so the bike (the R ) is not the same frame or dimensions and I think this , (shorter lengths ) kinematics etc cause it to wanna stay down stay faster
If you haven’t ridden it try get one from your lbs and give it a good run I think you will be pleasantly surprised
They’re not the same frame so maybe you can craft some new bullshit to make yourself feel superior?Hmmm... I've been pondering on the new Levo and my thoughts are; If the Levo and Levo R share the same main frame, is it not possible that Specialized have created the R in order to increase the choices as that would then clear the chunky frame stock, allowing them to bring forward the development of an aesthetically more challenging Levo 5. Given that the Levo 4, which hasn't been out that long, can already be seen for sale at reduced prices, this would indicate that they are losing sales to the Avinox powered competition and need to refocus on their strategy.
I'd considered the new Levo 4 as the S6 geometry suits me, but having just retired one of my analogue bikes with a knackered rear linkage on the four bar suspension, I'm now not going for one, or any other four bar design. My bike's been an absolute pain with this bearing in the chain-stay, as it's exposed to all of the crap year round riding brings and I have to change them every year. Unfortunately, this winter's been really wet and both bearings have rusted solid, despite extra greasing when I installed them, and the one pivot bolt's now completely fused to the bearing and won't come out. I'm not too fussed as the frame's done some really hard service since 2017, but I think i'll put my money on something with a DW Link or similar, like Mondraker, Pivot or the new Atherton.
I rode the flat bar on the Swork R and it didn’t feel to nice for me ,so I put the same bars as my Sworks Levo4 but there’s been mixed feelings on this some like it some change to rise barsAre you satisfied with the bar rise on R?
Definitely different Frames may look similar but that’s it the angles the lengths all differentThey’re not the same frame so maybe you can craft some new bullshit to make yourself feel superior?
why the constant obsession with the Avinox, why wouldn’t they be losing sales to newer, excellent, Bosch bikes too, the market is filled with great alternative to the Levo 4 with the Vala, the LTe, the Orbeas, the Pivot, etc.Hmmm... I've been pondering on the new Levo and my thoughts are; If the Levo and Levo R share the same main frame, is it not possible that Specialized have created the R in order to increase the choices as that would then clear the chunky frame stock, allowing them to bring forward the development of an aesthetically more challenging Levo 5. Given that the Levo 4, which hasn't been out that long, can already be seen for sale at reduced prices, this would indicate that they are losing sales to the Avinox powered competition and need to refocus on their strategy.
I'd considered the new Levo 4 as the S6 geometry suits me, but having just retired one of my analogue bikes with a knackered rear linkage on the four bar suspension, I'm now not going for one, or any other four bar design. My bike's been an absolute pain with this bearing in the chain-stay, as it's exposed to all of the crap year round riding brings and I have to change them every year. Unfortunately, this winter's been really wet and both bearings have rusted solid, despite extra greasing when I installed them, and the one pivot bolt's now completely fused to the bearing and won't come out. I'm not too fussed as the frame's done some really hard service since 2017, but I think i'll put my money on something with a DW Link or similar, like Mondraker, Pivot or the new Atherton.
on the S4 I am riding, yes.Are you satisfied with the bar rise on R?
I am not a fan of the integrated bar, on any bike, the Fuel EXe had it, the Spesh Epic S-Works has it. Also one of the reason I wasn’t keen on the R SWorks, and the $5G difference lolI rode the flat bar on the Swork R and it didn’t feel to nice for me ,so I put the same bars as my Sworks Levo4 but there’s been mixed feelings on this some like it some change to rise bars
This is all I wanted from the Levo 4, not a compromise !! And I believe many others would prefer this configuration to Levo 4. Starting with 29er wheelset, smaller travel. Almost all they implemented I wish could have been done on Levo 4. But it could have been taken much farther and shave another 3 pounds easily. Battery that slides out, rather than a side door, would save quite some weight from overbuilding the down tube. Throw on some Roval control wheels ... easily sufficient for AM rides, or even Control SL for pure XC terrain, SL post of get rid of it completely, lightweight carbon bar and stem, With 600 Wh battery, it can be easily SL bike. If they brough to market 350 Wh battery, I am confident they could built this with that battery at sub 38lb.This bike just screams compromise. And every bike has its compromises, but this bike IS a compromise. It’s like the best of no worlds.
This is specialized dudes. Not some random bike brand. Their new offerings should always be with the intent of being the best available. If they’re going to make an xc bike (or rally lol), then make it with the intent of being the best out there. I feel like they wasted a lot of time on this project to release a bike that’s not even that light and still with a gargantuan downtube. I guess when you create your own bike category (rally) then how could it not be the best in that category lol.
I’m a specialized fan and hope they eventually put out something that makes me consider returning to their bikes one day, but it hasn’t been a good look lately…
Boys and girls, did anyone actually take the two frames, Levo 4 and Levo R and compare them side by side for geometry. They may have different carbon layup to save the some weight, but I would say the rear tringle from one frame is likely mounted with the same hardware on the other frame, meaning, I would not be surprised that the triangles could be interchangeable. So if you have Levo 4, perhaps it can be made into 29er, with triangle from Levo R. Then all one needs to is swap a link and a shock and it might end up with very similar bikes, plus minus some extra weight. I know it is mix and match, but if I was designing it, I would go this route to preserve some design features to re-use as much hardware between bikes as possible.Definitely different Frames may look similar but that’s it the angles the lengths all different
seems imminentWith the already one year delayed battery how much longer are you willing to wait?