This or That: Yeti LTe or Pivot Shuttle LT?

Which are you choosing?

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I find the choice between there two specific bikes interesting. They each have their plusses. If you can have one of these two bikes (only), which are you choosing? Some differences pointed out but obviously there are more.

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Yeti LTe - T3 XO build ($12,900)
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Yeti Cycles - LTe

THE LTe MAKES THE KIND OF SPEED THAT CHANGES THINGS. LIMITS WILL BE STRETCHED. RECORDS WILL BE SET, BROKEN, DECIMATED. THE LTe IS HERE TO EXPOSE FEARS, TEST WHEELS, BLUR TRAILS AND BOIL BRAKES. THE LTe IS UNAPOLOGETIC ABOUT THE ONLY THING IT CARES ABOUT. THE LTe IS SORRY (NOT SORRY).
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Factory 38 fork
Sixfinity suspension with Factory Float X2 shock
XO groupset including (160mm) cranks and cassette
DT Swiss HXC1700 carbon wheels
CX Performance Line CX motor
Reverb AXS wireless dropper


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Pivot Shuttle LT - Pro XO build ($12,599)
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Shuttle LT

The Shuttle LT doesn’t follow the line, it defines it. Powered by Bosch’s limited edition Race drive unit, this long-travel eMTB delivers explosive acceleration, control, and the stamina to take on the biggest days. It climbs with brutal efficiency and descends with fearless intent, thriving...
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Performance Elite Podium fork
DW Link suspension with Performance Elite Float X shock
XO groupset with GX cassette (155mm) Paraxis alloy cranks
Crank Brothers Synthesis DH alloy wheels
CX Performance Line CX Race Edition motor
 
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You are comparing a 6-bar Yeti with Horst Link with a 4-bar Pivot with a unified rear triangle. They will ride differently. You didn't share your proclivities as to why just these two bikes, but I would compare the kinematic graphs graphs at least and focus and compare the geos to that best hew closer to your own preferences. I have a clear bias towards the Yeti because of it's suspension, since it has the kinematics that I prefer (no excess anti-squat and lower AR to keep things active under braking). But then again, that Podium seems compelling.
 
slickrock said:
You are comparing a 6-bar Yeti with Horst Link with a 4-bar Pivot with a unified rear triangle. They will ride differently. You didn't share your proclivities as to why just these two bikes, but I would compare the kinematic graphs graphs at least and focus and compare the geos to that best hew closer to your own preferences. I have a clear bias towards the Yeti because of it's suspension, since it has the kinematics that I prefer (no excess anti-squat and lower AR to keep things active under braking). But then again, that Podium seems compelling.
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That’s part of what I find interesting about comparing these two different bikes at the same price point. The Yeti has a better shock and Sixfinity; while the Pivot has a better fork and includes the CX Race motor. Pivot’s DW Link isn’t a slouch either.
This question is really based in just my curiosity of other members’ perspective; and my enthusiasm for bikes generally. It’ll remain theoretical until Bosch provides Class 3 capability with a warranty.
 
Powerslider said:
That’s part of what I find interesting about comparing these two different bikes at the same price point. The Yeti has a better shock and Sixfinity; while the Pivot has a better fork and includes the CX Race motor. Pivot’s DW Link isn’t a slouch either.
This question is really based in just my curiosity of other members’ perspective; and my enthusiasm for bikes generally. It’ll remain theoretical until Bosch provides Class 3 capability with a warranty.
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For me the Sixfinity is too cool to pass up. But really, have you poured over the geo numbers for your target size. This is perhaps more important than motor/shock/suspension. If the you lie between sizes or if reach, stack, and F/R ratio seem off at your selected size, then that will be perhaps the deciding factor.
 
slickrock said:
For me the Sixfinity is too cool to pass up. But really, have you poured over the geo numbers for your target size. This is perhaps more important than motor/shock/suspension. If the you lie between sizes or if reach, stack, and F/R ratio seem off at your selected size, then that will be perhaps the deciding factor.
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Shiiit- of course I did. I even made a spreadsheet containing these two and other bikes! 😂
I’m not asking people for advice on what I should buy. I’m curious to hear what others would choose if they had the opportunity to get either bike for $0.
 
Does it really matter what anyone else buys, just buy the one that you like, its you're money and you're an individual so just make your own decision based on your own research or experience, the ride and be happy 👍🏻😃
 
I think the Pivot works best on terrain where it is designed & tested (South Mountain, AZ) The Yeti will be a better all rounder.
 
Haven't ridden either bike, but it seems the Pivot is the AM rig where-as the Yeti is the Enduro race bike rig.

They make it hard to choose with their packaging and limiting access to the CXR on only certain builds.

What would I do? The Pivot would probably suit me and my trails better but I'd 100% buy the Yeti of these 2 choices.

That said, I ordered a CF Wild with the CXR for about $7K and the saved money will allow me to have my dream build (much of the parts I already have) so in actuality that is what I'd choose and I looked at the Yeti hard and I get a solid discount, but it's still really expensive.
 
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JJ765 said:
Does it really matter what anyone else buys, just buy the one that you like, its you're money and you're an individual so just make your own decision based on your own research or experience, the ride and be happy 👍🏻😃
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It's not a poll to decide which I'd buy. Actually it's the opposite; it's a discussion of which bike everyone else would choose. I'm not even considering a Bosch-powered bike until they're Class 3 with a warranty. Just talking bikes.
 
The Shuttle LT has a ton of adjustment and quality has always been amazing... I've been on some form of a Pivot for the last 5 years. That said, I just want to try the LTE 6finity... I've owned a SB115 and currently have a SB120. The traditional SI is cool and does ride nice, nicer than DW... eh. SI always has been added maintenance and complex, with the newer design or ones from the longer travel models (in the frame's plane) is a pain to service.
 
I think people nerd out way too hard on geo numbers.

They get a bike they liked 8 years ago and only buy bikes with those similar numbers now. Kind of boxes you out of trying new stuff. There’s plenty bikes out there with odd numbers that ride very different than those numbers would suggest.

It’s interesting because I have never seen anybody compare numbers on dirt bikes. And they also vary greatly between manufacturers and models. I know it’s not apples to apples, but just something I noticed in the mtb industry. People freaking over 5mm difference in wheelbase or a half degree in the headtube angle…
 
Powerslider said:
I’m not asking people for advice on what I should buy. I’m curious to hear what others would choose
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The LT without hesitation. I haven't ridden the Yeti OR the new LT, but I've had the two last AM's, and I've been blown away by the bike's capabilities. Yes, I've sipped from the Camelbak of Pivot Kool Aid. With that said, I have no plan on getting an LT. I think the AM is better suited for what I do.
 
Brawwp said:
I think people nerd out way too hard on geo numbers.

They get a bike they liked 8 years ago and only buy bikes with those similar numbers now. Kind of boxes you out of trying new stuff. There’s plenty bikes out there with odd numbers that ride very different than those numbers would suggest.

It’s interesting because I have never seen anybody compare numbers on dirt bikes. And they also vary greatly between manufacturers and models. I know it’s not apples to apples, but just something I noticed in the mtb industry. People freaking over 5mm difference in wheelbase or a half degree in the headtube angle…
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I compared MX bikes some years back and they were basically all exactly the same geo as I recall. At least when comparing modern 450s.
 
I actually almost bought the new LTe until I realized the Bosch can't go class 3 without a $300(ish) mod. Once they update the Bosch to have that, Yeti WILL have my money.
 
PeterHenric said:
It's the principle. I have Levo 4 now that goes as fast as I could ask it to go.
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Bro the levo 4 you have to pay like $5000 extra to get the full potential motor lmao. That’s a principle I’d be unhappy about.
 
Brawwp said:
I think people nerd out way too hard on geo numbers.

They get a bike they liked 8 years ago and only buy bikes with those similar numbers now. Kind of boxes you out of trying new stuff. There’s plenty bikes out there with odd numbers that ride very different than those numbers would suggest.

It’s interesting because I have never seen anybody compare numbers on dirt bikes. And they also vary greatly between manufacturers and models. I know it’s not apples to apples, but just something I noticed in the mtb industry. People freaking over 5mm difference in wheelbase or a half degree in the headtube angle…
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When the bike is often heavier than the rider, you aren't controlling the bike as much as the bike is controlling you.

Additionally, all EMTBs here are not Class 2 with throttles - i.e. they have to pedal to make them go and that's what really distinguishes the dynamics in a way that geo really does matter. In fact, especially on this forum everyone seems be going in the opposite direction, with folks splitting hairs between front and rear center, and harping on CS length all day long, and geez, the opinions here do vary. If you can throw a leg over a candidate bike all the better, but if you can't, geo can can be a good proxy, especially in size selection.

Another aspect is that nearly all dirt bikes are concentric single pivot suspension where AS and AR are in lockstep, whereas EMTBS have so many different designs that de their best to independently control AS and AR as well as leverage ratios, again because the human is involved with power delivery and can much more heavy influence COG and balance of the entire system.
 
PeterHenric said:
I actually almost bought the new LTe until I realized the Bosch can't go class 3 without a $300(ish) mod. Once they update the Bosch to have that, Yeti WILL have my money.
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It's $40 paid by PP to an online programmer to double the speed to 40 mph. You do have to allow him to link to your computer.
 
Never met a pivot that I'd buy, due to their very "arizona" geo. The new shuttle lt gets closer though.
I'd take the lte all day.
 
Ride 2d@y said:
He might be referring to class 3 (28mph) available on all Gen 4s (not just S-Works) - and also Avinox, right?
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That’s correct. I’m not talking about the full power motor, just the speed limitation. All of the Levo 4’s have class 3 mode.

Having said all that, I’m aware that it’s silly to be buying a $10k+ bike and then complain about an extra $300 for more top speed.
 
RustyIron said:
I've not ridden many trails in Vegas that left me wanting to go 28 mph. But I'm no Brandon Semenuk, either. What do you ride?
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Not many trails really let you open it up because they are too rocky but there are enough…
I’m probably making too big of a deal about the speed limitation but here we are.
 
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