It's actually completely unreasonable. If there's a Avinox embargo Crestline and everyone else cannot say their product will include a new Avinox motor. They can't even imply there's a new motor until the embargo is lifted. That's why a January Crestline launch doesn't appear to sync with a new Avinox motor that people guess will be announced in the spring.
it's not a launch. it's when they take orders. the bike will of course launch right when the embargo lifts. don't make this more complicated than it is. it's exactly the same thing as when an lbs takes in orders for an unreleased bike.
Just difficult for me to envision a "trust us we'll fill you in on the specific details later" approach to selling a high-end bike frame kit. I contend Crestline will release all the details of their product when it goes on sale. Anything else would be extremely unprofesssional. Again, this is the source of my skepticism that the embargo is even connected to the motor. The timing of the frame release seems out of sync with the release of the motor. Feels easier to believe the embargo is related to a new shock, but I could be wrong and we'll learn about a new motor sooner than we think.
dude the newer Avinox motors have zero rattle and are the best system out there right now. Either way it will be fine! The majority of your postings are negative about Avinox and idk why. Just go try one. I know you own a Levo, the Levo was my last bike and the Avinox is better in every way. I also traded off a gen 4 Levo last month and that owner was blown away as well. I’m not talking about the bike itself, just the motor.
Think your post is in response to someone else. I haven't been negative about Avinox motor or commenting about rattling.
I guess that’s where some opinions differ, I was able to buy one of the first batch spectres and did that with a trust that it’ll ride well and be executed to what I’m looking for. Everything I’ve seen from Crestline I like and I would trust them to buy a bike if they said ‘we’ll fill you in on the details later’ but I wouldn’t do that with something like a specialized because I don’t really get along with how their bikes ride. Not a knock on them, I just don’t trust that what they create is something I’ll enjoy but I feel Crestline is making bikes I enjoy right now. I used to be the same way with Santa Cruz bikes and since they switched up to 4 bar I don’t have trust to buy a bike with unknowns from them. All that to say, it makes sense to me and seemingly a lot of others on here as well.
But the "trust us" theory is implausible because it's not related to something like how it rides. The absurdness is that a company would open preorders for a high-end bike frame kit without telling you what motor it has. That just isn't going to happen.
I don’t really have a dog in this fight either. What I do have is decades of experience working for manufacturers of consumer products; many of which had embargoed information. I’ve never seen any company accept full orders (not deposits like Tesla) for a product they didn’t release full details of the major components. It seems absolutely absurd to think people actually envision Crestline selling frames without detailing the motor that’s included. We’re not talking about something like the headset. The motor is huge part of the appeal of the particular product. It’s much easier to believe that we’ll see Avinox launch the new motor in January than believe Crestline will launch a new frame without detailing the motor included.
Bigger capacity in the same size/fitment as the current offerings.
I stand by my statement that I haven't been negative about the Avinox motor or ever uttered a word about rattling. You okay??
"This is the only time time I really feel alive."
it clearly is not for you. move on with your life
Huh? DJI makes electronics not bikes. Can't see why they'd handicap their primary business (drive systems) just to give their pet in-house frame building experiment a chance to trounce the lions share of their bike company customers.
It probably looks like a regular Dengfu raw carbon frame finish (just raw unidirectional carbon layup without cosmetic carbon layer). You can check their website to see an example of their bike with such finish
crestlinebikes.com
But DJI does indeed make bikes. They invested a lot of resources creating an entire bike brand.
If we believe that the current first gen Avinox motor is the best available now, it seems plausible DJI would still win a lot of motor business offering it to others, while making Amflow into something special with an exclusive motor. Conversely, Amflow will be looked at as a cheap and unserious bike brand (if not already) if the best Avinox motor becomes widely available.
There's more AMflow products coming. Originally it was a platform to get Avinox out there but now it sounds like they are gonna push it a a proper band now. Alloy one coming along with an Enduro model and possible XC model as well.
you assume a lot and know little
really??? i‘m hearing this for the first time! why haven’t you told us this before?
I think you should actually try an Avinox bike before discounting it over your beloved CX-R
