160mm custom linkage on the way for amflow

[Astro66]

More control is what it is all its about, but I will honestly enjoy that 10mm extra by running less air pressure and keeping the bike comfortable for long days in the saddle.

100%. If the modification works for your riding. Then no one but you can judge that.

I did consider making suspension mods to my PL Carbon Pro. But I do love the way my Amflow rides, and decided not to change anything. I am going to go that path of getting a burlier EMTB, for when I'm riding burlier trails.

 

[Plummet]

I would agree whole hearted if we were upping it 20mm to 40mm. But taking a 160 36 and a 150 rear to 170 38 and 160 rear isnt that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Right away the 38 was a better upgrade than I figured it would be. It just gives the bike more stability in chunk, and way more feedback on what the front tire is doing, plus it opens up line choices you did not have with the 36. im 190lbs and abuse the bike, adding 10mm to the rear is not dramatic enough to turn the Amflow into an enduro. I was bottoming out the 36 on hard hits and errors, and surely a few more spacers would have solved that issue.

More control is what it is all its about, but I will honestly enjoy that 10mm extra by running less air pressure and keeping the bike comfortable for long days in the saddle.

Sick bike for sure, im sure its fun as hell.

It sounds like the Amflow is too light for your riding style

If you wanted a 160/170 bike why not just buy one?

This my main beef with dudes buying shorter travel bikes then upgrading the travel for better performance. Why start at the lower travel to begin with?

Why not just buy the full blown enduro build and go Harry hard nuts on it?

 

[Brawwp]

It sounds like the Amflow is too light for your riding style

If you wanted a 160/170 bike why not just buy one?

This my main beef with dudes buying shorter travel bikes then upgrading the travel for better performance. Why start at the lower travel to begin with?

Why not just buy the full blown enduro build and go Harry hard nuts on it?

Because amflow was at one point the only Avinox bike. It’s still probably the only one that is readily available and is a good compromise. There still to this date isn’t really any readily available bikes with Avinox that are better suited for enduro riding than the amflow with a few upgrades. Crestline and unno are unavailable. Crestline would be the move for sure if you can get one!

 

[Winford]

160/170 bike why not just buy one?

I did, got the first Amflow from an authorized dealer in the USA. 1000+ miles already.

Why start at the lower travel to begin with?

It was the only option at the time for DJI motor.

full blown enduro

Did not know flying down rough rocky trails was enduro riding.

At the time I just wanted a faster motor that was more reliable than my Canyon EP801 rig, it checked both boxes.

Since having this bike, my DH skill has increased dramatically, because you are going 90 mph everywhere you ride.

 

[Plummet]

It was the only option at the time for DJI motor.


Did not know flying down rough rocky trails was enduro riding.

Yep high speed smashing rocky trails is indeed enduro riding.

 

[Plummet]

Because amflow was at one point the only Avinox bike. It’s still probably the only one that is readily available and is a good compromise. There still to this date isn’t really any readily available bikes with Avinox that are better suited for enduro riding than the amflow with a few upgrades. Crestline and unno are unavailable. Crestline would be the move for sure if you can get one!

I guess thats where i differ from you guys, I spec the bike first, motor second.
If the bike doesnt meet the grade then motor is irrelevant.

PS dont forget about the Velduro. That now is an option.

 

[RickBullotta]

100%. If the modification works for your riding. Then no one but you can judge that.

I did consider making suspension mods to my PL Carbon Pro. But I do love the way my Amflow rides, and decided not to change anything. I am going to go that path of getting a burlier EMTB, for when I'm riding burlier trails.

Same here - the handling is so dialed that I have no reason to make any suspension changes at all - and I'm usually the first one to start swapping out suspension parts. I really like the way the 2026 Fox 36 rides as well.

 

[Brawwp]

I guess thats where i differ from you guys, I spec the bike first, motor second.
If the bike doesnt meet the grade then motor is irrelevant.

PS dont forget about the Velduro. That now is an option.

Have you ridden an amflow? Idk your skill level, but I do promise there are guys better than both of us ripppppping on the amflow.

What bike are you currently on? I had a Levo before and this bike is better in just about every way. I do understand it’s not the best bike though, but I feel there are a lot of people that have strong opinions on this bike without having tried it themselves.

Most stock builds aren’t that great anyway and we all just switch over forks, wheels, etc. buying the base amflow and throwing a Zeb, coil, carbon mullet setup and the bike is amazing and about same price as worse spec other big name bikes.

 

[RickBullotta]

Have you ridden an amflow? Idk your skill level, but I do promise there are guys better than both of us ripppppping on the amflow.

What bike are you currently on? I had a Levo before and this bike is better in just about every way. I do understand it’s not the best bike though, but I feel there are a lot of people that have strong opinions on this bike without having tried it themselves.

Most stock builds aren’t that great anyway and we all just switch over forks, wheels, etc. buying the base amflow and throwing a Zeb, coil, carbon mullet setup and the bike is amazing and about same price as worse spec other big name bikes.

I do find a lot of people greatly underestimating the 2026 Fox Factory 36 on the Pro builds. It's a different fork than 2025 and earlier.

 

[Plummet]

Have you ridden an amflow? Idk your skill level, but I do promise there are guys better than both of us ripppppping on the amflow.

What bike are you currently on? I had a Levo before and this bike is better in just about every way. I do understand it’s not the best bike though, but I feel there are a lot of people that have strong opinions on this bike without having tried it themselves.

Most stock builds aren’t that great anyway and we all just switch over forks, wheels, etc. buying the base amflow and throwing a Zeb, coil, carbon mullet setup and the bike is amazing and about same price as worse spec other big name bikes.

Yeah I had a squirt on one. My boy had a Teewing which is pretty damn close to the Amflow but a gruntier frame.
Comparing the Teewing to side by side to the Amflow is real easy to see the Teewing is a long gruntier frame and the amflow is a very light weight frame.

I am not saying its a bad bad bike. It obviously rips for its intended purpose. All im saying is that its a trail bike not an enduro bike.

PS I have a 180mm Bosch Crestline.

 

[Powerslider]

I guess thats where i differ from you guys, I spec the bike first, motor second.
If the bike doesnt meet the grade then motor is irrelevant.

PS dont forget about the Velduro. That now is an option.

Totally agree.
I think a lot (not all) buy from a spec sheet and assume the most powerful motor, and lightest weight equals the best bike. Add the cheap price of the Amflow and they’re sold. I find that other motors already have enough power and turn to valuing a tougher, more enduro style bike. Might have a lot to do with how and where I ride (Arizona), and could see myself buying a lighter duty bike if I rode less hardcore trails.
Another factor for me personally, is I wanted a turn-key solution. I wasn’t interested in buying a trail bike and trying to build it up into something more capable.

 

[Brawwp]

Yeah I had a squirt on one. My boy had a Teewing which is pretty damn close to the Amflow but a gruntier frame.
Comparing the Teewing to side by side to the Amflow is real easy to see the Teewing is a long gruntier frame and the amflow is a very light weight frame.

I am not saying its a bad bad bike. It obviously rips for its intended purpose. All im saying is that its a trail bike not an enduro bike.

PS I have a 180mm Bosch Crestline.

The Avinox crestline would be my dream emtb. I’d sell my amflow for one instantly.

I see a lot of guys on YouTube and stuff claiming they need a burly bike and they are absolutely garbage riders. Doing like hip high drops, tiny doubles, and thinking 10mm more travel is their answer. The honest truth is the amflow is more capable than most of the guys trashing it (not saying you’re one of those guys by any means!).

 

[Winford]

underestimating the 2026 Fox Factory 36 on the Pro builds

I did 4 months and 1000+ miles on mine before switching to the 38 170. So safe to say there was no underestimating on my part. It did an amazing job for trail use, and I beat it apparently like an enduro race horse. I got some amazing times out of it. But the 38 brings a whole different level or precision. Ill find out what the ohlins coil spring does next month. The only bummer will be not having a bike to use the shock coming off the pro, maybe ill sell it who knows

 

[Winford]

thinking 10mm more travel is their answer

So true, the 10 really isnt offering much, but the 36 to 38 does
Im getting less travel out of the 170 then the 160, but I set up the 38 a little better. [more tokens]

Still waiting on the cascade link, and im sure the coil will be the big difference there too.

 

[Purple parznip]

Amflow is a very light frame, It's designed for mild trail riding not hardcore enduro riding.
Slapping a 160mm link on it and riding it like an enduro bike will lead to increased flex, load and potential failure.

This link will likely void any frame warrantee also... Its a bad idea!

If you want an enduro bike, go and buy one.

Mild trail riding?
have you seen what tommy c hype on you tube does with his amflow pro?

 

[whitymon]

Mild trail riding?
have you seen what tommy c hype on you tube does with his amflow pro?

Irrelevant honestly, like saying oh that Dude did avalanche on a hard tail so anyone can do it, plain false.

I have no clue where the cursor is for the Amflow for every people in the world but not everyone has perfect skills so fair to say that some are better off bigger bike or going slower coming from a burlier enduro.

Let's just say that sometimes, real people needs a bit less flex, more stability, more travel to avoid crashing.

I also second the 36 vs 38 and its travel and I am not an heavy rider, I really love the 38 sanctions, do not eat as much travel as the 36 too when riding aggressive (to me).

My real bet is that people that are 100% satisfied with the Amflow but before had 38 sanction, coil, way more travel, did not in the first place need them on their previous bikes where they ride!

We need to be honest sometimes we want more just because we saw some shiny things out there.

 

[Plummet]

Mild trail riding?
have you seen what tommy c hype on you tube does with his amflow pro?

I dont even know who Tommy c is. Also, what pros do is irrelevant. They get free shit, and there job is to hammer the gear and find the limits. If they smash wheels, Crack frames, they just get replacements sent.

 

[Plummet]

The Avinox crestline would be my dream emtb. I’d sell my amflow for one instantly.

I see a lot of guys on YouTube and stuff claiming they need a burly bike and they are absolutely garbage riders. Doing like hip high drops, tiny doubles, and thinking 10mm more travel is their answer. The honest truth is the amflow is more capable than most of the guys trashing it (not saying you’re one of those guys by any means!).

Then next dji crestline is about to drop........

The Cresty is capable! I highly recommend them!
I wouldn't want to throw an Amflow off this drop too many times.

PS I'm not one of those guys that's all the gear and no idea. In the last 14 months I've done 7 dh races and 3 enduro races and podiumed on 8 of them in the old man division.... So i'm fast for an old bastard. But the young guns kick my arse. Man they are quick.

The drop above is the first drop in this vid. I'm riding the Pole Voima in the vid. That was before i got the crestline.

 

[Purple parznip]

I dont even know who Tommy c is. Also, what pros do is irrelevant. They get free shit, and there job is to hammer the gear and find the limits. If they smash wheels, Crack frames, they just get replacements sent.

Not a pro,not sponsored by them either,do your research.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Not a pro,not sponsored by them either,do your research.

I mean he kinda is

Loads of UK/abroad youtubers got given AMflow to help market them

 

[Astro66]

I wouldn't want to throw an Amflow off this drop too many times.

I think you under-estimate the Amflow. This was the base model too. It seems quite capable to soak up big air.



Sure it's no Enduro. But personal experience says I am riding downhill faster than I ever have. And I am jumping further than I ever have. Obviously the climbing is insane.

I rode with 15 other EMTBs from East Coast MTB Group last weekend on a mix of blues and blacks, for our annual Xmas ride, and no one could get close to me. Same ride last year on the Merida E160 and I was mid pack.

The Amflow makes a big difference.

 

[Plummet]

I think you under-estimate the Amflow. This was the base model too. It seems quite capable to soak up big air.



Sure it's no Enduro. But personal experience says I am riding downhill faster than I ever have. And I am jumping further than I ever have. Obviously the climbing is insane.

I rode with 15 other EMTBs from East Coast MTB Group last weekend on a mix of blues and blacks, for our annual Xmas ride, and no one could get close to me. Same ride last year on the Merida E160 and I was mid pack.

The Amflow makes a big difference.

Sounds like you are a trail rider and the bike is perfectly suited to you and you are having a blast. That is exactly where the Amflow will be awesome. On the blues and mild blacks.

And I agree it is no enduro bike. That was my entire point. Be wary of adding travel and expecting this obviously light weight frame to last if you ride it to the extent of that new travel.

If you put the extra travel on but dont ramp up the crazy level, that extra travel won't matter. But if you start sending bigger things then you potentially push past the design limits of the bike. When past the design limits that is whe shit breaks.

I think its time to wrap this up.
Have fun on ya Amflows. Just consider if you start going to enduro level of silliness its time to get a stronger bike that is designed to handle that silliness.

 

[Astro66]

Have fun on ya Amflows. Just consider if you start going to enduro level of silliness its time to get a stronger bike that is designed to handle that silliness.

I'm really starting to enjoy the downhill and air, thanks to the Amflow. So I am definitely going to get a 180/180 Enduro. Just waiting for the right Avinox powered one to come out.

The Teewing Flux is looking the goods, with the great support from Pushys in Australia. And added to that is the confidence you have shown in Teewing, with your kids Turbo Force. But I want to see it in the flesh, and do a test ride. So it might be mid next year before I can purchase.

I'll see how playful the Flux is, but the Amflow will still be my go to EMTB for the majority of my riding. It really has been game changing for me, in developing my riding, and everyone I ride with has noticed.

 

[Winford]

if you start going to enduro level of silliness

Fair enough. Ive been adding distance to my rides, one day a week I end up riding 52+ miles of single track draining two bikes batteries. 1700w total. Of that maybe only 10 ish miles could be considered enduro. Still at roughly 4.633 miles for the year with 581,619' climbed.

 

[singletrackminded]

I just received the new Cascade Link for the Amflow, will be installing soon and will report back! Anyone else?

 

[Plummet]

Fair enough. Ive been adding distance to my rides, one day a week I end up riding 52+ miles of single track draining two bikes batteries. 1700w total. Of that maybe only 10 ish miles could be considered enduro. Still at roughly 4.633 miles for the year with 581,619' climbed.

That's a fuckton of milage. Good effort.

 

[Plummet]

I'm really starting to enjoy the downhill and air, thanks to the Amflow. So I am definitely going to get a 180/180 Enduro. Just waiting for the right Avinox powered one to come out.

The Teewing Flux is looking the goods, with the great support from Pushys in Australia. And added to that is the confidence you have shown in Teewing, with your kids Turbo Force. But I want to see it in the flesh, and do a test ride. So it might be mid next year before I can purchase.

I'll see how playful the Flux is, but the Amflow will still be my go to EMTB for the majority of my riding. It really has been game changing for me, in developing my riding, and everyone I ride with has noticed.

Yeah, some solid dji enduro options are dropping now.

Hopefully my boy gets a go on the flux, that would be cool AF.
180mm e bikes are freaking awesome. You will loose a little playfulness over the 150/160 bike. But will be able to hammer it all day and all night long!

 

[Highland Wheels]

Fair enough. Ive been adding distance to my rides, one day a week I end up riding 52+ miles of single track draining two bikes batteries. 1700w total. Of that maybe only 10 ish miles could be considered enduro. Still at roughly 4.633 miles for the year with 581,619' climbed.

What mileage has your Amflow done?

 

[Winford]

What mileage has your Amflow done?

4 months little over a 1000+ miles on the Amflow, 38,000' + climbed. between both bikes 400+ miles a month

 

[Winford]

Good effort

Improving my game, that is for sure, helps to ride with multiple good teachers. Teaching meaning dont crash and try and keep up lol works most of the time