2026 motor rumors
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xtraman122
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Don’t forget the 2 sets of Avinox rumors, both a new M2 motor for supposedly cheaper bikes and a revised M1.
Well, its true that they are rumours!
I must say that I like the sound of the Shimano EP10. I've had two Shimano motors since Jan'19 and they have been flawless, along with a natural delivery of power and torque that makes me feel like me on a good day, a really good day! But it depends upon what bike it would come on!
Zed. (Justin is short)
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Highland Wheels
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You want an Avinox for thatretrofitable / backwards compatable would be great
but I know that'd never happen
Are there any links to any rumors related to "Shimano EP10"?
Shimano did not announce any new drive unit on the Eurobike 2025 exhibition in Frankfurt and normally all new products from Shimano will be introduced on this exhibition which mostly will be held in June (like e.g. the new electronic Di2 derailleurs which were introduced this year).
Shimano did not announce any new drive unit on the Eurobike 2025 exhibition in Frankfurt and normally all new products from Shimano will be introduced on this exhibition which mostly will be held in June (like e.g. the new electronic Di2 derailleurs which were introduced this year).
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A lot of manufactures these days prefer to do their own thing for product launches, I wouldn't take not seeing anything at Eurobike 2025 to mean we won't see anything from Shimano in 2026. At this point I don't think Shimano can leave it much later than 2026 to offer something new otherwise they will lose what little emtb business they have left to Bosch or others.
I absolutely agree - Shimano definitely should announce some news regarding their drive units soon, otherwise DIJ and Bosch are having huge advantages.
BTW.: Orbea has created some nice and interesting brand new components for their 2026 Rise bikes with Shimano STePS DU-EP801 drive unit (a new HMI control unit and a new electronic dropper), see e.g. here.
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jbrown15
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Too bad TQ couldn't just make a super compact version of their TQ 120 motor....lolOpening a thread for 2026 motor rumors and info, anyone in the know please share
Rumors I heard :
Shimano ep10 100nm
Full power TQ 90+nm
New full power Sram ?nm
Porsche ?
...
That thing was a monster.
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It's coming (from rumors
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I want to think the Porsche motor will be great, however I can’t help but feel pessimistic about the entire endeavor. Gotta be arriving soon though.
Will it arrive on an Orbea? I’ve only heard rumors about an Orbea equipped with a TQ system, and earlier I was assuming it would come with the HPR60 motor...
towzer
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Well you can retrofit (*just, power limits) the hpr60 into original hpr50 bikes (well trek exe), I was probably going to sell my exe (want a bit more power and have gone Bosch sx) but backwards compatible hpr80/90 (even with certain restrictions), ooohhhh that would make an interesting option.
I think it's unlikely it would maintain the same form factor as the HPR 50/60. It would likely be beefier and heavier although hopefully still somewhat compact compared to the other options.
Where did he get an EPX motor casing? Or is it fake? I tried watching his video. I'm fairly patient listening to translations but if that is the best that Google Translate can do, it was pretty bad. Better than nothing of course. But I couldn't help thinking while I was watching that it was a bit like the spoof videos made of things like "Hitler's Day out to Morecambe", where totally made up dialogue is fitted to a real film clip.
Pic is AI or photoshop. I would also doubt he has any credible info on Shimano's new offering or future plans.
I also had a deeper look too at this video and especially the casing of the "EPX" which is 100% identical to the current DU-EP801, but the integrated CNC - milled or even molded "EPX" signature seems not to be AI fake, but real. So I assume this is a real new casing from Shimano, however maybe just a prototype or even just a mock up. The guy who has done the video seems to be quite professional and may have some direct connections to Shimano.
The quality of the automatic translation from Spanish to English is not the best but much better than nothing also for me and I think the quality is highly depening on dialect of the original speaker which most probabily did not have the intention in mind to speak as perfect as possible for any automatic translation later on.
Why exactly do you think so?
I had a very close look to this and compared it with an original DU-EP801 laying on my benchtop and I don´t think so.
For me this seems to be too good for a fake...
This is the "EP8" signature (fully integrated into the cnc milled or molded housing) of my current test DU-EP801 drive unit sitting on my bench:
All 3 characters are shaped in 3 dimensions, so it would not even be that easy to physically grind the "8" and create an "X" out of that.
Also this "eRIDERSeMTB" YouTube channel has 21800 follower which is quite a lot for this scene (especially as a Spanish - spoken channel) and I don´t think that this channel would like to ruin its reputation by showing fake news.
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Welcome to 2025 and AI generated content
You can easily feed an image of a EP801 into any number of AI programs and give it a few prompts and get the above image.
I am happy to be proven wrong, I just don't think some random guy from YT is gonna be the one to break the news on Shimano's next offering.
I am doing professional software development on a daily basis since many decades and think I know quite well what AI (Grok, Nano Banana, etc.) currently is able to do and what not. But let´s see, I am also happy to be proven wrong.
So this image was posted in an article from this site years ago. Almost certain (based on the background) this one or another from this shoot was used as the base for the EPX image.
www.emtbforums.com
We rode the new Shimano EP6 and EP8 (801) ebike motors
We’ve had a couple of encounters with the new EP8 motor already. We rode it on a Yeti, and it was so quiet. Despite riding on frozen and noisy surfaces, we were quite confident this motor was silent. Watch the video of our ride on the new...
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Thanks a lot and fair enough - the picture you have shown is quite different from the viewing angle of the one with the "EPX" in the video, but maybe you are correct and there was another older picture taken as basis for a "fake" new EPX - picture.So this image was posted in an article from this site years ago. Almost certain this one or another from this shoot was used as the base for the EPX image.
We rode the new Shimano EP6 and EP8 (801) ebike motors
We’ve had a couple of encounters with the new EP8 motor already. We rode it on a Yeti, and it was so quiet. Despite riding on frozen and noisy surfaces, we were quite confident this motor was silent. Watch the video of our ride on the new...
What I currently don´t like (and so where you might be correct) is that I had made a comparison of 2 pictures of this new video, one where the "EPX" is sitting on the stone (below right) and the other one where only the drive unit is shown (below left):
I don´t like the style of this "E" on the right side where there is no black gap between the upper line of the "E" and so I currently might change my mind and agree to your statement: Seems like (at least) the pictures of the EPX are "fake"...
However I still believe that there (hopefully)is some upcoming real information integrated in this video...
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I wouldn’t rule one out, the nature of the internet and motor failures mean there’s an element of ‘self selecting sample’ about them.
My own E8000 is over 5 years old now, it has seriously never missed a beat, so serviceability is a somewhat moot point.
Bearings and sprag clutches can be serviced, but to be honest if I had to spend another £6-700 to buy another one to keep the bike going if it gave up then I would consider it a fairly good outcome at this point.
How many riders really get motor services? I'd wager most people are happy with a 2 year warranty and getting replacements in that period. Sure it would be nicer if they were easily serviceable but a lot of people just buy new bikes every two years anyway once the warranty is done.
Me for one, third EP8 with no issues (touch wood!)
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