Crestline x DJI - RS 181 SPECTRE Edition

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You can buy different drop outs for longer or shorter chain stays as well as mx/29. There was a handful of different options when purchasing the frame, as they sold the options dropped off from being available. I haven’t seen anything that says ‘this is recommended base setting for each size’. Seems it was more a range of options that were available
 
Perhaps it would’ve been better to post it here instead of creating a separate thread.

Troydon wants to know the demand for the smaller, lighter battery. How many of you RS181 owners would seriously consider purchasing the 600Wh battery?
 
BikingBad said:
Perhaps it would’ve been better to post it here instead of creating a separate thread.

Troydon wants to know the demand for the smaller, lighter battery. How many of you RS181 owners would seriously consider purchasing the 600Wh battery?
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I responded to you on fb that I would be interested. You should probably have folks who are serious drop you a dm. Talk is cheap until folks actually commit.
 
I’d be interested but depends on price. Anyone have an idea of what a 600 batt goes for? I’m not really interested in dropping another grand but for ~$600 I’d seriously consider it.
 
Scford said:
You can buy different drop outs for longer or shorter chain stays as well as mx/29. There was a handful of different options when purchasing the frame, as they sold the options dropped off from being available. I haven’t seen anything that says ‘this is recommended base setting for each size’. Seems it was more a range of options that were available
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FWIW from the site, "Each frame ships with the recommended dropout and wheel configuration based on size."
 
John_likes_bikes said:
FWIW from the site, "Each frame ships with the recommended dropout and wheel configuration based on size."
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I saw that, but again it doesn’t say anything about this is the default cs length for this size frame. When ordering there was multiple options, nothing default. Which is why it seems to be just a range and you pick what you like.
 
RH3 MX you can choose between 445 or 450. Or purchase other sizes. That’s how it was presented to me through the retailer.
 
You see this guys custom cascade links? From the FB group
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Switched to ohlins front and rear and really enjoying it with an air fork over the push nine one. The extra weight loss from the fork made the bike more playful and the bike doesn't pitch forward as much.

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I tossed on a Mezzer which shaved 300g or so from a 38mm Zeb/Fox. The front of the bike feels extremely light and lively now. Unfortunately, The Mezzer is not going to win any beauty contests but it feels the most coil like of any Air sprung fork I’ve tried. No more arm pump and the bike is well under 49lbs.
 
mrtrinh said:
Switched to ohlins front and rear and really enjoying it with an air fork over the push nine one. The weight loss from the fork made the bike more playful and the bike doesn't pitch forward as much.

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Weight matters, and it's notable when it's hanging off the very front of a bike.

Can you compare those 2 forks more specifically?
 
MTB_MIKE said:
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I tossed on a Mezzer which shaved 300g or so from a 38mm Zeb/Fox. The front of the bike feels extremely light and lively now. Unfortunately, The Mezzer is not going to win any beauty contests but it feels the most coil like of any Air sprung fork I’ve tried. No more arm pump and the bike is well under 49lbs.
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Yah, I'm going through my own Mezzer that has an Avy hybrid thing going on but was never quite sorted to get it ready for my next bike. It needed to have the bushings burnished and in the garage it seems to have made a huge difference. It does weigh 2340 grams however with the Avy cart because of the open bath oil and the coil spring compared to a stock weight of around 2100 grams.
I feel it's a good chassis and it's my preferred choice. It's very burly and rigid for it's weight.
 
Suns_PSD said:
Yah, I'm going through my own Mezzer that has an Avy hybrid thing going on but was never quite sorted to get it ready for my next bike. It needed to have the bushings burnished and in the garage it seems to have made a huge difference. It does weigh 2340 grams however with the Avy cart because of the open bath oil and the coil spring compared to a stock weight of around 2100 grams.
I feel it's a good chassis and it's my preferred choice. It's very burly and rigid for it's weight.
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My stock Mezzer Pro with steerer tube cut was 1998g. Perhaps the Mezzer expert is heavier?
 
MTB_MIKE said:
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I tossed on a Mezzer which shaved 300g or so from a 38mm Zeb/Fox. The front of the bike feels extremely light and lively now. Unfortunately, The Mezzer is not going to win any beauty contests but it feels the most coil like of any Air sprung fork I’ve tried. No more arm pump and the bike is well under 49lbs.
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49 lbs is impressive, curious what else weight reducing components were installed. Mine (RH3) weigh 53 lbs with Fox 38, Conti Endurance (trail) tires, pedals.
 
BikingBad said:
49 lbs is impressive, curious what else weight reducing components were installed. Mine (RH3) weigh 53 lbs with Fox 38, Conti Endurance (trail) tires, pedals.
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49.5lbs with pedals, 48.7lbs without pedals.
Size medium. MM Gravity out back, MM Trail up front. XTR brakes and Freeza 203mm rotors. IBIS CARBON 35mm wheelset, Oneup bars, oneup 180mm dropper, 180g lightweight saddle. Of course the fork is pretty light at 2000g but it’s 37mm stanchion and reverse arch feels much stiffer than a 36 but a hair less stiff than 38. As a lighter rider, it’s been great for me.
Should be able to get it lighter with a few other changes (Mabe under 48lbs with a Superdeluxe and XX drivetrain) but not worth the extra spend for such marginal gains

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MTB_MIKE said:
49.5lbs with pedals, 48.7lbs without pedals.
Size medium. MM Gravity out back, MM Trail up front. XTR brakes and Freeza 203mm rotors. IBIS CARBON 35mm wheelset, Oneup bars, oneup 180mm dropper, 180g lightweight saddle. Of course the fork is pretty light at 2000g but it’s 37mm stanchion and reverse arch feels much stiffer than a 36 but a hair less stiff than 38. As a lighter rider, it’s been great for me.
Should be able to get it lighter with a few other changes (Mabe under 48lbs with a Superdeluxe and XX drivetrain) but not worth the extra spend for such marginal gains

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Impressive weight!
 
Check your dropout size!

I was swapping out the original 450mm dropout to shorter 435mm and discovered the original dropout is 445mm, not what I had ordered (450mm).

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BikingBad said:
Check your dropout size!

I was swapping out the original 450mm dropout to shorter 435mm and discovered the original dropout is 445mm, not what I had ordered (450mm).

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Be certain to report back with your bike and body size and the handling differences you perceive dropping from 445 to 435.

It's funny though that you requested an even longer CS length and are still apparently finding those are a bit too long.
 
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I've wondered if a 450mm 27.5 is the same as a 450mm 29 drop out? Axle hole has to change to keep the BB/HTA the same, right?

FYI, affter checking bolt torque after the first few rides the dropout bolts were the only ones that loosened for me. That woudl be bad!
 
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John_likes_bikes said:
I've wondered if a 450mm 27.5 is the same as a 450mm 29 drop out? Axle hole has to change to keep the BB/HTA the same, right?
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It's the same but it seems easier to rotate the bike up and manual on a 27.5" rear wheel, just because the axle is lower in the rear than the front I think.
 
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