Extender battery?
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pmccut
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I haven't seen any confirmed rumors of it yet. I definitely want one too!
If they come out with one my next bike will be another DJI. If not, I'm going Bosch for my next
If they come out with one my next bike will be another DJI. If not, I'm going Bosch for my next
pedal harder? Get fitter and stronger? Or just do as Jens says and say "Shut up legs and do as I tell you" (I am sorry but I do not do a German accent very well)
I regularly do that sort of distance and elevation without any issues. Heck, we used to do that sort of riding on our analog bikes. So on a Emtb this is very doable. I usually get back with about 5% left in the tank. It's not a motorbike, its a bicycle. So cycle.
pmccut
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When I'm up in the mountains I like to ride near daily after work. I've got a couple hours and either want to do laps of what I know - where range isn't a problem. Or ride off into some unknown or unmarked trail where I have no idea where it goes. I don't have enough time to be in Eco and go that far.
This is why I have a 909Wh bike so I can still do something new without worrying about getting back after dark. Weekend rides are different and I'm down to push through that but I still want the extra safety net. There's clearly a market for this.
This is why I have a 909Wh bike so I can still do something new without worrying about getting back after dark. Weekend rides are different and I'm down to push through that but I still want the extra safety net. There's clearly a market for this.
I don't understand your mindset. You know the limits of this bike and yet you demand to push the limits. With that sort of mindset there isn't a range extender big enough to satisfy your demand. The only thing that will change is that people will then go "I want to do 50 or 60 miles and want more range". Once again, it's not a motorbike. If you want to go further, pedal harder.
António13_PT
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With a protective cover and only this size, it doesn't seem real to me, It seems too small to be 400.
pmccut
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Yeah that's impressively small. I wonder how that integrates if it is somehow real. Even the port orientation looks wrong in that photo.
Thats because you have a problem. Let people ride their own ride. He asked for help not a lecture.
That's the thing though. I regularly do the sort of rides he is saying he can't without any issues. It's not me that has the problem
. It's a very simple equation. The more work the rider does the less the drain on the battery and the further you can go. You can also lose some weight with the same result. Even better yet, do all three. Lose weight, get stronger, and fitter and you could make that assumption of limited distance limitless.Why do you judge what he wants to do? He is not you, get over yourself. There are a bunch of us here locally (Teton Range) that outride the available range, especially if the ride focusses on many long, extremely technical, rocky climbs. And we are fit, light, and veteran riders.
I also ride a lot in Perú, we do rides that can go basically straight up for 9-10k. After that, (in eco)you have no personal energy left, either, so the dh‘s become dangerous as fvck with fatigue, altitude, and exposure.
To each his own, Para cada uno lo suyo, À chacun son goût!
(not an ebike, but this is an example of what we go UP, and then back down, for 1-2k metres of altitude…)
I also ride a lot in Perú, we do rides that can go basically straight up for 9-10k. After that, (in eco)you have no personal energy left, either, so the dh‘s become dangerous as fvck with fatigue, altitude, and exposure.
To each his own, Para cada uno lo suyo, À chacun son goût!
(not an ebike, but this is an example of what we go UP, and then back down, for 1-2k metres of altitude…)
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Where have I judged them? I am simply stating facts that are extremely basic and self evident. If you get fitter, stronger and lighter you WILL be able to go further, higher and faster. There is nothing judgy in that. And as a range extender for this bike doesn't exist yet it is really your only option. I might also add that there are limits to all things. You wouldn't take an ebike on a multi-day adventure ride for instance. It is just not the right tool for the job. So if you are pushing the limits of rider and bike consider that maybe you are choosing the wrong tool or that maybe you need to reconsider your goals. I've done a 65 mile ride with 8000 feet of vert on a fully rigid single speed. Once. Took me 11 hours and I was wrecked for several days after. I don't actually remember much of the last few miles other than pain and misery. I had reached and pushed past my perceived limits. It's amazing the punishment a body can take.
Joecrow
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Seems to me you are saying that had you used a decent emtb for that ride you would have been able to do it quicker without the pain and indeed had that bike been fitted with a range extender it would have given you a greater safety margin or you probably could have gone further, just asking?
On a general note, like most people, I have had more than enough pain in my life without, at my age at least, having to endure more while participating in a sport/hobby that should help me stay fit.
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NIce I have family in Lima and they own a lot of Oxapampa. The mountains in Peru are epic! Been to most places in the country.
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I just ignored him. He has no clue the trails I ride. Where I live most people don't even ride the trails I ride. I use to do them on my analog bike for almost 30 years. The rides would take all day. Now I can do them in half the time. Now that Im in my mid 50s I like as much battery as I can get. My average rides are 7k-8k ft vert and 30-40 miles. Our climbs are usually 1000ft vert for every mile. Then when we get to the top of the mountains we can ride a long ways.
We do these types of rides 3-4 days a week and often back to back. It's nice to have some battery so you dont wreck yourself and can ride many days in a row.
I don't think safety factors in anywhere. In fact, it is probably the other way around. If I get really tired I tend to use the down hills to recover and slow it down and go hard on the up hills. So the risk is lowered. But yes, I would definitely be faster on my Levo or my Amflow with less effort compared to any of my analog bikes. That goes without saying.
I just don't get the view of more, more, more. More power to go up faster, means more power is needed in the battery which means more distance is needed to get the same workout. It's a vicious cycle. Where does that end? Is there an end? If it is all about going faster and further then get a Motorbike or a Stark Vark. You can get insane workouts on dirt bikes. I have a cr250 and usually the day after riding that for a few hours every muscle in my body aches and you can do 60 or 70 miles in a few hours. But to me at the age of 56 I don't have to spend all day in the saddle anymore. I can knock out 20, 30 or 40 miles quickly and not be dead the next day for work. Or, if it is a nice day I can take my time and do the big loop. Just set the power lower or on the Levo set the distance and vert and let it work it out on its own. Why do you need range extenders? Just do more yourself.
So you ride where other people don't. You used to take all day but now want to do these rides 3 or 4 times a week in half the time? How is it possible to ride a bike for 30 years and completely mis the point of recreational riding? Dude! With that sort of view point, if you get a dirt bike you could do it in half the time of your Amflow and do it 2 or 3 times a day. Or, you can turn down the power settings, go a little slower and enjoy being out there.
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Why are you so worried about what other people like or do?
I have a new Levo too with an extender. I have the bike turned down as low as I want to go and I still drain the batteries in my big rides. I ride in Auto- a lot.
You might learn one day, on a racetrack the faster rider on a 400 will pass a Ducati liter bike all day long, even if the Ducati rider is fast as hell.
None of your fkn business. 10 - 2
Its called fun dude! try it sometime. Your goals and needs are different, let people be free! quit trying to control other people.
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I'm not at all worried about what other people do or like
. You asked a question about a product that doesn't exist. I gave you a solution that is guaranteed to work. You and some of the other people took offense to that. I think that's funny.- Thread starter
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I don't recall asking for a solution. Maybe you should reread the original post. How about I buy you a plane ticket and you come ride with me? You can ride in ECO all day and Im willing to bet your bike will be dead before we finish.I'm not at all worried about what other people do or like
LOL ... yeah that's why the field is full of 400CC bikes at the Moto GP. Wow.
"None of your fkn business. 10 - 2" ... LOL Rude! And spoken like a fat lazy rider.
"Its called fun dude! try it sometime. Your goals and needs are different, let people be free! quite trying to control other people." ... I am just offering him some advice so he can have fun. The fitter and stronger you are the more fun riding becomes. I am surprised someone as smart as you doesn't know that.
Pretty booked up for the next 6 months but I might take you up on that later on next year.
Some of your photo's are pretty epic.
Some of us have health issues. Some of us are older and are instructed by our medical physicians, to not exceed certain heart-rate parameters.
The reasons for some people wanting the EMTB to do more of the work, is many and varied, and frankly, none of your business.
This thread is not about you. Solve the issue requested by the OP. That is an Electronic Range Extender. No one is reading this thread to be lectured about putting more effort in.
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What part of a range extender doesn't exist so if you want to go further your only option is to pedal harder don't you guys understand?
I'm glad you think you are so funny.What part of a range extender doesn't exist so if you want to go further your only option is to pedal harder don't you guys understand?
Forums like this exist for people to ask questions, and possibly learn about products they don't know about. Unfortunately people like yourself see them as point scoring opportunities, and a place to feel superior.
So how about you try and learn something, rather than trying to be a comedian.
I have a range extender for my Avinox Motor System, that I put together myself. It is portable and doesn't require an outlet, but it is not mountable to the bike. You need to carry the system in a backpack.
The one available and mentioned above, works on the same principle.
Because the Amflow can be recharged at high rates. You can add a battery that acts like charger. As more bikes are fitted with the Avinox Motor Systems, more 3rd Party people will produce these type of Battery Charging Range Extenders for the Avinox Motor Systems.
If you hear or see any. This thread would be the place to inform people of this, and make a helpful, community based contribution. Otherwise, if you haven't noticed by your rating, you are making New Zealanders look like unpleasant people.
Enjoy your day.
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I was parked by the water in the pic. It's a 9 mile climb and about 8k vert to the top. Then you can ride for another 20-40 miles through the mountain depending on your endurance and battery. Even in Eco at 20/20, the battery is so close to dead that you can't really ride across the mountains too far. With my Levo and battery extender I can ride a lot more of the trail at the top. Believe me, Im in shape and I know all about long rides on analog bikes and e-bikes. IMO ebikes are ment for rides like this. A lot of people ride ebikes on rides where an analog bike would work just fine. Im just one of those people pushing the limits of the ebike and batteries. Yes, I did these rides when I was younger and possibly more fit. I use to train to ride these rides. I no longer train. I like to bust out these rides and then come home and mow the lawn and get my home stuff done. lol 
Ive found that about 1000wh to 1200wh battery is where I like to be.
Ive found that about 1000wh to 1200wh battery is where I like to be.dadeadduck
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I fail to understand the need to be so condescending.What part of a range extender doesn't exist so if you want to go further your only option is to pedal harder don't you guys understand?
People are different to you.
There are range extenders, just not official ones, yet.
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