Other Cascade Components 2023+ Levo SL Link

Bought it new and was tinned for my weight and riding style 10/10/9/5 HDC/LSC/R/HBC. Spring: C65 575
The dealer confirmed that I just need a bigger spring. Will try that next week 😀
This is open from fully closed? Or closed from fully open like in the instructions?
 
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Bought it new and was tinned for my weight and riding style 10/10/9/5 HDC/LSC/R/HBC. Spring: C65 575
The dealer confirmed that I just need a bigger spring. Will try that next week 😀
Hi Carlos. Levo SL owner here, ride aggressive stuff and big jumps and I've gone through some of the things you mention, but after talking to industry folks and reading up and actually understanding the kinematics, I can share some experience.
First of all, you can't properly run a coil shock on a Levo SL w/o a Cascade link. Short story is the bike is too linear, and so you either have it WAAAAAY too harsh at the top, or you blow through the travel too quickly. If you don't want Cascade link, the Float X will work SO MUCH better than the best of the best spring shocks. Don't believe me? Just go to your LBS and get someone who knows a bit about shocks, they can explain to you with a simple graph.
Next: if you actually want to go the more progressive route, install a Cascade link which will change your leverage ratio curve progression from 12% to (I believe) 24%. BTW this isn't overly progressive, but good enough for coil. Next, ditch all those dumb calculators on the web that don't take into account the actual curve. You need to find the leverage ratio at the sag point on the curve AFTER installing a Cascade, then multiple by your weight geared up - and that's your spring rate.
Example: on the Levo SL gen2 after Cascade, at 28% sag the ratio is 3.12 (if you want a smaller sag you can call Cascade they'll tell you what the ratio is). If you're 84kg=185lbs, multiply 185 x 3.12 = 577lbs. So you'd need a 575lb spring (or 600lbs if they're in 50lbs increments - always always round up) to get 28% sag with Cascade link with your weight on Levo SL gen2.
Another thing - you can actually get improvements with Cascade and keeping the air shock, by removing volume spacers. I had to run 0.6 on the Float X before Cascade, then dropped to 0.2 after Cascade (and of course changing PSI and other settings) and it was more than fine, because the extra progression in the leverage ratio curve does the job that the volume reducers do, but without the need for more violent rebound at the end of the stroke.
Anyways, the bottom line - if you're running a coil shock on Levo SL (gen1 or 2) without a link you'll not get the result you want, unless that result is very harsh beginning of stroke and no small bump sensitivity (aka the opposite of what a coil promises to deliver). HTH
 
Hi Carlos. Levo SL owner here, ride aggressive stuff and big jumps and I've gone through some of the things you mention, but after talking to industry folks and reading up and actually understanding the kinematics, I can share some experience.
First of all, you can't properly run a coil shock on a Levo SL w/o a Cascade link. Short story is the bike is too linear, and so you either have it WAAAAAY too harsh at the top, or you blow through the travel too quickly. If you don't want Cascade link, the Float X will work SO MUCH better than the best of the best spring shocks. Don't believe me? Just go to your LBS and get someone who knows a bit about shocks, they can explain to you with a simple graph.
Next: if you actually want to go the more progressive route, install a Cascade link which will change your leverage ratio curve progression from 12% to (I believe) 24%. BTW this isn't overly progressive, but good enough for coil. Next, ditch all those dumb calculators on the web that don't take into account the actual curve. You need to find the leverage ratio at the sag point on the curve AFTER installing a Cascade, then multiple by your weight geared up - and that's your spring rate.
Example: on the Levo SL gen2 after Cascade, at 28% sag the ratio is 3.12 (if you want a smaller sag you can call Cascade they'll tell you what the ratio is). If you're 84kg=185lbs, multiply 185 x 3.12 = 577lbs. So you'd need a 575lb spring (or 600lbs if they're in 50lbs increments - always always round up) to get 28% sag with Cascade link with your weight on Levo SL gen2.
Another thing - you can actually get improvements with Cascade and keeping the air shock, by removing volume spacers. I had to run 0.6 on the Float X before Cascade, then dropped to 0.2 after Cascade (and of course changing PSI and other settings) and it was more than fine, because the extra progression in the leverage ratio curve does the job that the volume reducers do, but without the need for more violent rebound at the end of the stroke.
Anyways, the bottom line - if you're running a coil shock on Levo SL (gen1 or 2) without a link you'll not get the result you want, unless that result is very harsh beginning of stroke and no small bump sensitivity (aka the opposite of what a coil promises to deliver). HTH
Yeah ultimately I think you are right about how hard it will be to get the coil right without a link. Also the float X is criminally underrated, you can absolutely rip on that thing. Check out the linkage analysis Specialized Levo SL 2024
 
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Yeah ultimately I think right about how hard it will be to get the coil right without a link. Also the float X is criminally underrated, you can absolutely rip on that thing. Check out the linkage analysis Specialized Levo SL 2024

From fully open, like instructions.
What I was trying to figure out is if you were already at the end of your range for low speed and high speed compression - would be interesting to see how you changed things on a heavier spring
 
Hi Carlos. Levo SL owner here, ride aggressive stuff and big jumps and I've gone through some of the things you mention, but after talking to industry folks and reading up and actually understanding the kinematics, I can share some experience.
First of all, you can't properly run a coil shock on a Levo SL w/o a Cascade link. Short story is the bike is too linear, and so you either have it WAAAAAY too harsh at the top, or you blow through the travel too quickly. If you don't want Cascade link, the Float X will work SO MUCH better than the best of the best spring shocks. Don't believe me? Just go to your LBS and get someone who knows a bit about shocks, they can explain to you with a simple graph.
Next: if you actually want to go the more progressive route, install a Cascade link which will change your leverage ratio curve progression from 12% to (I believe) 24%. BTW this isn't overly progressive, but good enough for coil. Next, ditch all those dumb calculators on the web that don't take into account the actual curve. You need to find the leverage ratio at the sag point on the curve AFTER installing a Cascade, then multiple by your weight geared up - and that's your spring rate.
Example: on the Levo SL gen2 after Cascade, at 28% sag the ratio is 3.12 (if you want a smaller sag you can call Cascade they'll tell you what the ratio is). If you're 84kg=185lbs, multiply 185 x 3.12 = 577lbs. So you'd need a 575lb spring (or 600lbs if they're in 50lbs increments - always always round up) to get 28% sag with Cascade link with your weight on Levo SL gen2.
Another thing - you can actually get improvements with Cascade and keeping the air shock, by removing volume spacers. I had to run 0.6 on the Float X before Cascade, then dropped to 0.2 after Cascade (and of course changing PSI and other settings) and it was more than fine, because the extra progression in the leverage ratio curve does the job that the volume reducers do, but without the need for more violent rebound at the end of the stroke.
Anyways, the bottom line - if you're running a coil shock on Levo SL (gen1 or 2) without a link you'll not get the result you want, unless that result is very harsh beginning of stroke and no small bump sensitivity (aka the opposite of what a coil promises to deliver). HTH
Hi ah1. I am also an aggressive rider and love jumping. Im planning on getting the Cascade link, I had it in my Stumpy Evo and was very very nice. Now on the SL2 Im running through travel even with 20% sag (float x factory). I ramped up the spacer from 0.2 to the 0.4 and I will see if that helps, but I'll get the link for sure, I don't want to loose to much small bump sensitivity nor get those weird fast rebounds if running too much spacers. I am running a 170mm fork up front and full 29 wheels. What is your preferred setup geo for the bike? I used to ride the Stumpy Evo with 170mm fork, low BB, and center headset cup. Will the CC link leave the bb too high? thanks
 
Running levo2 sl with TTX22 coil and cascade link & RFX38 160mm air. About 160lbs kitted. 29er setup with slack setting on headset cup. Loving it so far on my rooty and rocky undulating terrain without cosistent long down or uphills. 504lbs spring pretty much bang on with minimal preload. Haven't had a chance to properly test in summer conditions because it's winter now and the bike is pretty new (2 months old).

Considering to convert the fork to coil with maybe 170mm setting.
 
New guy here...I've been enjoying my Levo SL2 for 660 miles thus far. It's an incredible bike, but I do find myself bottoming the rear shock quite often. I was planning to increase my rear shock pressure a bit to compensate. My question is this, what exactly does this type of Cascade link do for the ride feel and performance? I hear the term 'progression' bandied about constantly in videos and in threads like this, but what does that actually mean. People talk in technical terms like leverage rates, etc. What I really want to know is how does what the Cascade link is doing technically translate to real-world performance and feel? For example, "I was bombing down a steep trail over roots and rocks. The bike used to do X with the stock suspension, but with the Cascade link it now does Y." Or, "When I land a nice jump the bike does this, whereas it used to do that." I want to understand. Thanks!
 
New guy here...I've been enjoying my Levo SL2 for 660 miles thus far. It's an incredible bike, but I do find myself bottoming the rear shock quite often. I was planning to increase my rear shock pressure a bit to compensate. My question is this, what exactly does this type of Cascade link do for the ride feel and performance? I hear the term 'progression' bandied about constantly in videos and in threads like this, but what does that actually mean. People talk in technical terms like leverage rates, etc. What I really want to know is how does what the Cascade link is doing technically translate to real-world performance and feel? For example, "I was bombing down a steep trail over roots and rocks. The bike used to do X with the stock suspension, but with the Cascade link it now does Y." Or, "When I land a nice jump the bike does this, whereas it used to do that." I want to understand. Thanks!
I realized that the smart thing to do would be to get ChatGPT's take on this topic as well. :) Here's what it said, and hopefully this benefits others considering changes to their bike:

The easiest way to think about it is this:

Adding air pressure makes the whole rear end firmer everywhere.
A Cascade link changes how the rear suspension gets firmer as it moves through the travel. That’s why people keep talking about “progression.”

On the Levo SL2, the stock bike has 150 mm rear travel with a 210x55 shock. Cascade’s current Levo SL link takes that to 160 mm rear travel with the stock shock and increases progression from 12% to 24%; Cascade also says to run it in the high shock-position only.

What “progression” actually means​

“Leverage ratio” is just how much the rear wheel moves compared with how much the shock moves. A progressive bike starts with more leverage on the shock and then loses leverage deeper in the stroke, so the rear end becomes harder to compress near the end of travel. In plain English: the first part of the travel is easier to use, the last part fights back more.

So when people say the Cascade link makes the SL2 “more progressive,” they mean the bike does a better job of saving some resistance for the back half of the travel, instead of using travel too easily and then smacking the bumper on bigger hits. Cascade’s own explanation is that more progression helps you balance small-bump sensitivity and bottom-out resistance without having to rely as much on over-springing the shock or cranking in extra damping.

What that feels like on trail​

Here’s the real-world translation.

On a steep, rough descent with roots and rocks, a more linear / less progressive setup can feel great at first because the rear wheel is very willing to move. But if you’re pushing hard, it can also feel like the bike sits deeper and deeper, uses travel quickly, and then gives you a sharper “whoa” at the biggest compression or g-out. With the Cascade link, the usual goal is that the rear still starts the stroke willingly, but when you hit the big root stack, square edge, or compression, the bike is less likely to blow through the last third of travel. The feeling riders chase is more like: “it tracked the chatter, but it didn’t collapse when the real hit arrived.” That is the whole point of doubling the progression number from 12% to 24%.

On jumps or drops, the stock setup can feel like it’s happy and active but sometimes lands deep and gets close to a hard bottom-out if you come in a little flat or heavy. The more progressive link is meant to give you more end-stroke ramp, so the landing feels more like the bike catches itself instead of just running out of travel. That often translates to a little more confidence on jump faces, g-outs, and hard landings, because there’s more support left in reserve when you really load the rear.

In corners, pumps, and rollers, more progression usually feels like more support deeper in the stroke. The bike is less likely to sink excessively when you really push into a berm or pump through a transition. Riders often describe that as more pop or more of a platform to push against. That’s an inference from what a more progressive leverage curve does mechanically, not a universal promise, because shock tune still matters a lot.

Why Specialized didn’t make it that way from the factory​

This is the important counterpoint: stock is not “wrong.” Specialized later said they intentionally moved the Levo SL to a slightly lower starting leverage point and a bit less progression because they found it improved consistency and control through the travel and made shock setup easier. In other words, Specialized chose a more broadly agreeable, easier-to-set-up feel, while Cascade is aimed at riders who are pushing hard enough that they want more ramp and more margin at the end of the stroke.

So what should​

If you’re only bottoming on the biggest hits once in a while, that’s normal and I wouldn’t chase it too hard. If you’re bottoming often, your first move is still the cheap one: add a little pressure and/or add a volume spacer if your shock supports it. The downside is that pressure makes the whole travel firmer, and volume spacers improve end-stroke resistance but can come with some trade-off in small-bump feel. Pinkbike’s Genie explainer describes that exact air-spring tradeoff: more end-stroke progressivity from spacers can slightly hurt small-bump sensitivity.

That’s where the Cascade link becomes interesting: it’s a bigger, more expensive way to solve the same problem more elegantly. Instead of just making the shock stiffer everywhere, it changes the bike’s kinematics so you can often keep a plusher, grippier first half while getting a firmer, more supportive second half. That’s the sales pitch in one sentence.

My plain-English verdict​

If your complaint is:
  • “I love the bike, but on hard descents and bigger hits it uses travel too easily and clanks the rear too often”
    then the Cascade link makes sense.
If your complaint is only:
  • “I occasionally see the O-ring near the end of the shaft”
    then I would try pressure / sag / token tuning first before spending link money.
The cleanest summary is:
  • More air pressure = firmer everywhere.
  • More volume spacer = more ramp in the shock.
  • Cascade link = more ramp in the bike itself.
For the kind of rider who is hitting the Levo SL2 hard enough to bottom it regularly, the expected before/after is:
  • Before: plush, active, but easier to blow through the rear travel on hard compressions and landings.
  • After: still active, but with more support and a more noticeable “catch” in the last third of travel.
If you want, I can turn this into a very practical decision tree for your Levo SL2: “add 5–10 psi,” “add a spacer,” or “yes, you’re the kind of rider the Cascade link is probably for.”
 
The cascade link also moves the leverage rate higher across the whole travel range, especially at the begging/sag point of travel. This makes the the beginning of the stroke more sensitive = more "plush"
 
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