Bosch Gen5 Update Watt/Torque increase....Anyone got an inside track?

[SimonG]

With amflow at 850w and Specialized dropping a 720w brose, anyone know what bosch are up to and when is the release?

 

[JP-NZ]

Will the torque/power of the Bosch Gen 5 increase this year with a software update?

I heard a bike industry guy predict that they would bump it up to 100+ Nm this year to compete with the DJI Avinox. I don't know if he was just speculating or he had insider knowledge. (He sold bikes with Bosch so it's also possible he was intentionally spreading misinformation.) This is...

www.emtbforums.com

 

[Bman]

Francis from emtb reviews (Youtube channel) said on YT that he's heard from a bunch of insiders that the upgrade is imminent, either April or May. Maybe 100nm or something in that range. I WILL say that my CX Race motor feels more powerful than my CX Gen 5 in all support modes.

 

[zizajaun]

I heard May 1 for the new display and update to 100 Nm, plus a few more Watts. But I also heard June 1.

 

[dimitrin]

I'd love to hear 28mph top speed as well!

 

[GeorgesEBike]

Francis from emtb reviews (Youtube channel) said on YT that he's heard from a bunch of insiders that the upgrade is imminent, either April or May. Maybe 100nm or something in that range. I WILL say that my CX Race motor feels more powerful than my CX Gen 5 in all support modes.

Dang. I love my CX Race motors and run them in Race Mode 100% of the time. I have a new CX Gen 5 bike arriving this week. Really hoping Bosch gives us 100nm+/700watts+ and 28mph Class 3 option. May 1st would be better than June 1st.

 

[PJ27]

Dang. I love my CX Race motors and run them in Race Mode 100% of the time. I have a new CX Gen 5 bike arriving this week. Really hoping Bosch gives us 100nm+/700watts+ and 28mph Class 3 option. May 1st would be better than June 1st.

Yes 100nm+ and 28mph/32km/h Class 3 would be perfect. Be great if they made it backward compatible to the CX Race & and CX 4, considering new bikes are being sold with CX 4 and CX Race - like Shimano did with their upgrades.....

 

[emtbeast]

As far I have read, heard it's going to be only the CX5 that gets the power/torque bump and there was no talk about class3 or anything in this direction. There was talk about the new display kiox 400c, new emtb+ mode and a new CX-R motor.

 

[gio_se]

I think there will be NO update related to class 3 or any other kind of speed limit changes, they must maintain compliance with international regulations, European ones especially.

 

[HandsomeDanNZ]

It's amazing how often I go past 32km/h when riding my Shimano-equipped bike.
Glad it cuts out at 45km/h - although I often exceed that, too, so it's a bit of a moot point

 

[Tgianco]

I think there will be NO update related to class 3 or any other kind of speed limit changes, they must maintain compliance with international regulations, European ones especially.

I'm in the US, and, frankly, having owned Class 3 ebikes (non-emtb), don't see the need for Class 3. If I am riding TO the trails on roads, I'd rather save my battery (max 20 mph here) for when I want/ need it on punchy climbs, etc on the actual trails. Why kill your battery to & from your way to your trail system?

 

[Rockman88]

Do we think the increase to 100nm will have a big effect on range?

 

[gio_se]

Do we think the increase to 100nm will have a big effect on range?

Practically sure, maybe not as huge, unless Bosch literally does a miracle in efficiency.

However, there is always the option of limiting torque via the app !

 

[Tgianco]

Do we think the increase to 100nm will have a big effect on range?

Wouldn't say a huge affect, but, yes, there will be some affect... reducing it a bit (not a ton). As always, going to depend on how you ride, what mode, elevation changes, etc. As someone who has multiple e-mtb's, including a hardtail Aventon Ramblas with 100nm torque, that Ramblas motor beats the Bosch and my Gen 3 Turbo Levo motor, in terms of power delivery (even BMS), hands-down. I rarely have to leave ECO on that one... need to be in EMtb on Bosch or Trail on my Turbo Levo to come close to the power.

 

[GeorgesEBike]

I'm in the US, and, frankly, having owned Class 3 ebikes (non-emtb), don't see the need for Class 3. If I am riding TO the trails on roads, I'd rather save my battery (max 20 mph here) for when I want/ need it on punchy climbs, etc on the actual trails. Why kill your battery to & from your way to your trail system?

I want the class 3 for riding to the trailhead. I currently get 30 miles/6,000ft elevation running 100% Race Mode. I'm not too concerned with battery life riding 2 miles to the trailhead. The speed limit is 25mph on the 2 roads I ride and it is very unsafe riding 18mph-19mph with no shoulder and every car squeezing past me. If I could go 28mph I could just take over the lane and avoid getting passed every 2 seconds.

 

[killerade]