I actually could not find it in the user manual, I had to do a google search but it was easy to find.
Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread
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.... and can someone please explain to me why do I have that advertisement under the Levo yt review? 
AussieRuss
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Isnt saying China & Taiwan are the same is like saying Canada & the USA are the same
Greeno
Active member
Uhhh what are going to plug that thumb switch into?
Does the gen4 have a harness, my guess is no.
But I could be wrong.
Does the gen4 have a harness, my guess is no.
But I could be wrong.
I think I'm still suffering from PTSD (Pretty Thorough Specialized Disappointment).
It's been so long coming and having access to all the early specs, it looked like they were going to do something pretty special.
OK, it's a great all round bike with great riding characteristics and it's nice it provides constant power all through the battery charge state. But, it's not really pushing any boundaries like you'd expect Spesh to.
It's a bit like Spesh turned upto the motor show and proudly rolled out their new VW Golf - perfectly capable, but larger and heavier than the last one - it's got a glovebox though.
Meanwhile UNNO have come along with their Carmen Sagrera and Forbidden roll in with a HTT Pléthore.
It's been so long coming and having access to all the early specs, it looked like they were going to do something pretty special.
OK, it's a great all round bike with great riding characteristics and it's nice it provides constant power all through the battery charge state. But, it's not really pushing any boundaries like you'd expect Spesh to.
It's a bit like Spesh turned upto the motor show and proudly rolled out their new VW Golf - perfectly capable, but larger and heavier than the last one - it's got a glovebox though.
Meanwhile UNNO have come along with their Carmen Sagrera and Forbidden roll in with a HTT Pléthore.
How about a gen3/4 noise comparison? Metal gears (coated or not) will have a higher whining noise than plastic gears (used in primary planetary gear reduction from previous Brose motor). For me personally, the sound/feel(power delivery) of Brose motor was the best of all and because it wasn't popular among bike manufacturers, Specialized was the only option. And it had plenty of power/torque. The weak point was the reliability...they could have improved on that design instead of going the same way as others. Anyway, until I have a chance to properly test one, I will refrain from further assumptions.
Back in 2016, difference in power modulation/cadence support/noise between bosch cx gen2 and Levo first gen Brose motor was night and day.
electricbogaloo
Active member
German reviewer of Velomotion said that the new motor is louder uphill than the old one.
the sound difference with bosch is ridiculous, can it be faulty motor once again?
We've seen it before with 2.2 brose motors that some of them were dead quiet and some were noisy as hell without any obvious reason
Peter Hill
Active member
Can't say that it wows me? the Avinox bikes look even more tempting now, I really don't like the look of the Gen 4 with it's chunky downtube and high price. I was expecting something more like the SL with the compact new motor so a bit disappointed if Im honest. The fanboys will still love them whatever, so that's fortunate for the Brand
Let's face it, it's a dud.
this hilarious 
flafonta
New Member
Question about shuttle class 3 mode. I read it is limited to 250W, is that the motor only, and on top of that I would add my own power? And what is the assistance level, 400% in that mode? If I input 150W, I would get 150W + 250W, so 400W total?
Chrysaor
Active member
It's the motor only, it would be impossible to ride anywhere near 28mph on the flat with 250w in total. On a road bike the ballpark is 400w to hold 28mph
I tried class 3 mode on mine yesterday and it was okay on the flat but I did have to pedal fairly hard to get up over 20mph. Once I hit any sort of incline it slowed down to under 20mph and I had to really pedal pretty hard. This was on dirt for a 3 mile stretch when I came back the same route I just left it in Auto and did not even use the 28mph feature as I was able to go up hills faster with more assistance and I just had to pedal a bit harder to get over 20mph.
I would only use this feature in the future if I knew my ride was going to be pretty flat for a long distance.
My take: I would almost say that the 28mph mode power is enough to over come wind resistance on the flat but you still need to put in some work.
I thought it was more Premature Titillation Supposition Disorder?!
Marshall Willanholly
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so…….he doesn’t want to dwell on it but the Levo is already unreliable? Wow.
Some cool bikes have been launched this week…..it’ll be really fun to see how it all works out.
Dang, after the handsfree dropper remote, sram keeps pushing the boundaries, I can live with the fat downtube, but without this...total deal breaker 
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WatermanJim
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True. Amazingly the gen 1 levo is still the queitest full power motor imo.
As they say this is the first comparison there will be many moreso…….he doesn’t want to dwell on it but the Levo is already unreliable? Wow.
Some cool bikes have been launched this week…..it’ll be really fun to see how it all works out.
WatermanJim
Active member
I think labeling it unreliable is a stretch because of a minor problem less than one week out. in the owners manual there is an adjustment for the battery connection and obviously this just needed a bit of adustment and all was well. They did bring up the point that the amflow is probably being sold at a loss to gain market share and that makes perfect sense.so…….he doesn’t want to dwell on it but the Levo is already unreliable? Wow.
Some cool bikes have been launched this week…..it’ll be really fun to see how it all works out.
The levo look is growing on me. Looks like a chubby SL and much cleaner than gen 3. the side load is not pretty but makes sense.
I don’t have the same issue with the side load as others do.
I also appreciated that the reviewers said that the comparable model (comp?) made a case for it actually being a better spec for only a few hundred £’s more.
TheSnowShark
Well-known member
Given Amflow's prices, I have serious doubts about what you're saying !
The Brose Drive 3 will be below 3 Kilo‘s in weight.
Just sold my Kenevo 22 a few month ago now Having the gen 4 Levo Sworks. it is quieter especially under load.
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How does the side load makes sense? The Rail+ comes out faster and its on the bottom of the down tube....
Why is a couple of seconds any problems and Specialized battery takes less than 10 seconds to remove.
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