Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

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Ride 2d@y said:
At this time, I am thinking evolutionary vs "shock the industry" changes - nothing to leak
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I would agree. I assume it will be basically a Stumpy 15 with a motor and maybe some fancy software. Power specs like what has been mentioned. It will most likely look very similar to the SL.
 
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At that price, like $18,000 ish USD, and then add CA sale tax and your close to 20 USD!!!!!!, then I will say no thanks. No matter what the power, that's not justified. I cannot fathom how good it could potentially be, and for the "fleet" just keep my Gen 3 for Enduro, and buy an Amflow for the Trail. You can get the base Amflow shipped to the USA for $6500 total shipped to your door and forget the sales tax; or heck, get what Rob likes in the Crestline! $6800 for the frame, just rob the parts off my existing Levo, get 3k for Levo frame, and and for $3800 net, you get one of the best enduro machines available anywhere. Please Specialized, release this today so we can all just move on!!
 
westcoastmtbr said:
At that price, like $18,000 ish USD, then I will say no thanks. No matter what the power, that's not justified. I cannot fathom how good it could potentially be, and for the "fleet" just keep my Gen 3 for Enduro, and buy an Amflow for the Trail. You can get the base Amflow shipped to the USA for $6500 total shipped to your door and forget the sales tax; or heck, get what Rob likes in the Crestline! $6800 for the frame, just rob the parts off my existing Levo, get 3k for Levo frame, and and for $3800 net, you get one of the best enduro machines available anywhere. Please specialized, release this today so we can all just move on!!
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No, it’s the same price so $14k and $12k in the US. The UK always gets screwed on pricing, all they do is change the $ to a £ and that’s what we pay. I don’t think I’ve ever seen different pricing for the £ only €.

FWIW, I’ll have about $12k in my Crestline when it’s finished, that’s with a Push shock/fork, AXS transmission/dropper, Berd carbon wheels etc.
 
Ou812 said:
No, it’s the same price so $14k and $12k in the US. The UK always gets screwed on pricing, all they do is change the $ to a £ and that’s what we pay. I don’t think I’ve ever seen different pricing for the £ only €.

FWIW, I’ll have about $12k in my Crestline when it’s finished, that’s with a Push shock/fork, AXS transmission/dropper, Berd carbon wheels etc.
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Good point, but here in CA, 14k = $15,295 with tax... kinda still the same situation. I think the Amflow as a trail bike, and Crestline as the Enduro. You're still ahead. Again, this Specialized think may or may not be all we are thinking it's going to be. Many have caught up.
 
westcoastmtbr said:
Good point, but here in CA, 14k = $15,295 with tax... kinda still the same situation. I think the Amflow as a trail bike, and Crestline as the Enduro. You're still ahead. Again, this Specialized think may or may not be all we are thinking it's going to be. Many have caught up.
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Might be worth driving to Oregon to pick one up.
 
Wonder if they will do what Porsche and Ferarri do where you have to own a certain number of S works bikes already before you get an invitation to the new one.
 
Ou812 said:
They were definitely the new Levos, the pics were up about 5 mins before the post was deleted. The 38 is getting the same update along with the new X2 that resembles the genie shock.
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I am afraid this isn't quite right at all. The 38 is staying the same for MY26 and the X2 looks nothing like the genie shock, it still retains the look of the X2.
 
I reckon 2025 is going to be the year non chines ebike companies really will start struggling financially just look at EV Tesla the king for years then suddenly chines BYD turned up and they are only in the initial phase and now Amflow with chinese engine. G4 is still not on the market but Specialized is going to get the hardest time ever.

 
At that price I’ll wait for a frame only option. Even if it is a year down the line. My upgraded G3 expert has every want and need to build over.
But if bosh release a software upgrade to my Vala to 3 digits Nm I can skip the G4

I just don’t like the idea of having to remove my specialized sticker of my laptop and car.
And I’ll need to purchase a new helmet
 
Spz need to hurry up…

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Myke said:
I would agree. I assume it will be basically a Stumpy 15 with a motor and maybe some fancy software. Power specs like what has been mentioned. It will most likely look very similar to the SL.
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and years behind dji avinox.
 
etoni said:
and years behind dji avinox
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Ok! Avinox is a great system (by now, cause now body knows because it’s 7 month old but most guys ride it since 3, 4, 5 month ???)
And know body knows exactly what Specialized will do with the Peak3 “Basis”!
How can you post such bullshit ???
 
etoni said:
because this engine is superior to the brose...
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sluette said:
Have you ridden the G4 Levo so far?
No? So what you are talking about??
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motor facts are facts. 2.4kg, 2.8h charge time, best tracktion.

www.amflowbikes.com

E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine: DJI Avinox M1 wins the Best in Test for E-Bike Motor 2025 (United Kingdom)

DJI Avinox M1 drive unit tops eMTB motor charts. It won the "Best in Test 2025" award of E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine. Read on for their in-depth assessment.
www.amflowbikes.com www.amflowbikes.com

have a nice day.
 
sluette said:
Have you ridden the G4 Levo so far?
No? So what you are talking about??
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Technical details of the Brose that’s due to be used in the G4 are already available are they not?
To be the market leader and innovator it would have to be smaller, lighter and more powerful with better control/power delivery and a really well integrated control screen/app than the DJI offering.

If it’s not all of those things, it’ll be behind by default.
 
Biano44 said:
Technical details of the Brose that’s due to be used in the G4 are already available are they not?
To be the market leader and innovator it would have to be smaller, lighter and more powerful with better control/power delivery and a really well integrated control screen/app than the DJI offering.

If it’s not all of those things, it’ll be behind by default.
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We don't have any details about the Brose motor Spesh are using. It could be a Peak3 or it could be something else they have developed. We don't know.
 
DylanJM said:
We don't have any details about the Brose motor Spesh are using. It could be a Peak3 or it could be something else they have developed. We don't know.
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Does the brose have an intentional overrun or can you maneuver through rough terrain with a pedal kick (bosch), or multiple magnetic pick-up (dji) or 2.8h charging (dji) or an equivalent display (dji)? There is nothing comparable on the brose website.
 
I'm sure that in a good E-MTB, the motor is just one component, less important to me than the function and balance of the frame.

The DJI's power/torque numbers are absurd and far removed from what assisted pedaling should be.

Is it really a bike for cyclists/athletes?
Are we sure it's a reliable product?
How will its after-sales service work?
 
cañonaco said:
I'm sure that in a good E-MTB, the motor is just one component, less important to me than the function and balance of the frame.

The DJI's power/torque numbers are absurd and far removed from what assisted pedaling should be.

Is it really a bike for cyclists/athletes?
Are we sure it's a reliable product?
How will its after-sales service work?
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Not sure it matters in this thread as much as how the G4 performs.
The G4 needs to be at least equal to or better than its competitors whom ever they maybe and be a better bike.
To directly compare the G4 to the Amflow, it would also need to be a ‘Trail’ bike.
If it’s a more of an Enduro bike, it would need to compared to other bikes; maybe the new Forbidden E-Druid?
 
etoni said:
www.amflowbikes.com

E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine: DJI Avinox M1 wins the Best in Test for E-Bike Motor 2025 (United Kingdom)

DJI Avinox M1 drive unit tops eMTB motor charts. It won the "Best in Test 2025" award of E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine. Read on for their in-depth assessment.
www.amflowbikes.com www.amflowbikes.com

why i drive a gen3.
but all in all, the last levo, times change, competition has overtaken.
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Has competition really overtaken? What I see is that the various brands are proposing what Specialized did five or more years ago (KADO), centralization of the masses, lowering the weight, increasing connectivity, etc... and that is basically why the gen. 3 is still so good. In addition, some technical solutions have come out that reveal some contradictions, for example the size of the Bosch 800 battery greatly widens the central part of the frame (It disgusts me) and the range extender does not contribute to lowering the center of gravity of the bicycle (not to mention that the cost of a range extender is not indifferent). The choice of many to use a 600 battery lightens the bike, this is true, but it is neither fish nor fowl, wouldn't it have been better to opt for a 700, sufficient in most cases? Is the search for more power in the engines really an advantage? In real use I much prefer greater autonomy and the ability to put the power to the ground in the best possible way. Battery integrated into the frame? Inconvenient, even if it lowers the total weight of the ebike and stiffens the frame. As I have already had occasion to say elsewhere, aside from the various (and understandable) hype, what is happening is what happened in smartphones a few years ago with a general alignment of performance. And then, let's face it, how boring it is to see only Bosch around...
 
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