Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

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How's wishing it was bigger working out for you?
Well, I was really hoping to see something last year ...

Then I thought, be patient, February maybe ...

Now I'm thinking it could take a while and I might not see things till April.

Or maybe I've just used all my wishes up the last three times ... :)
 
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I got april too. I hope it was a joke when i was told the s works one is £15k :ROFLMAO:
Is there much of a difference, between 14k or 15k? Once you get above 12k, then it all becomes stupid and I can afford it, but I would never pay it.

One thing is for certain, it won't ride any better than the $7400 at 30% off that I just payed for a bike that I can see.
 
See that Loic has now taken down leaked picture off his instagram 🤣

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Why are we discussing Bosch here?

To get things back on track. Someone mentioned last week that today might be the day the press embargo is lifted so perhaps we’ll start seeing some content later on.

And assorted random chat ....​

 
So in the background is that the new GEN 4? Who can use AI to enhance, sharpen and enlarge image?
The bike in dark grey on the left looks more like an Epic. Down tube looks very thin and shock almost embedded in the top frame.

Bike on the right, white/silver does have a thicker down tube. But again the rear shock looks to be embedded into the top tube, similar to an Epic.

Maybe these are the two versions without and without the battery attached? But the Rear shock is throwing me off.
 
The bike in dark grey on the left looks more like an Epic. Down tube looks very thin and shock almost embedded in the top frame.

Bike on the right, white/silver does have a thicker down tube. But again the rear shock looks to be embedded into the top tube, similar to an Epic.

Maybe these are the two versions without and without the battery attached? But the Rear shock is throwing me off.
Neither of those look like they have 160mm forks so I doubt they are Levos.
 
So in the background is that the new GEN 4? Who can use AI to enhance, sharpen and enlarge image?
The bike on the right if you saw the original video is in hd hence why video is taken down. Large flat down tube but like the canyon strive ons.
All ties up with the testing in Madeira rumours
 
When was the supposed press camp. Embargo should be release around one month later, no ?
 
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Just watching a DJI vs Bosch video on YouTube which talk a bit about the future of ebike motors & at the very end they slide a riders view of an upcoming non DJI or Bosch powered bike & say “but we can’t talk about this bike as it’s under embargo”. Looked very similar to the silver bike spied previously in this thread.

The video is called DJI vs Bosch why are the major brands hesitating.

By the bike studio
 
Just watching a DJI vs Bosch video on YouTube which talk a bit about the future of ebike motors & at the very end they slide a riders view of an upcoming non DJI or Bosch powered bike & say “but we can’t talk about this bike as it’s under embargo”. Looked very similar to the silver bike spied previously in this thread.

The video is called DJI vs Bosch why are the major brands hesitating.

By the bike studio


It’s not the new Levo I’m afraid.
 
Let’s just fast forward to whenever the Gen 4 breaks cover;

“What a lame release, Amflow/DJI better in every area, total fail by Specilaized”.

“Spesh have knocked it out of the park, ordered!”.

“Ok bike, but at that price they can shove it, ordered a Boardman from Halfords…”.

“Strokes Gen 3 Levo with £15k of upgrades whilst shaking head at price of new S-Works”.

“Doesn’t have a 1037Wh side removable and self charging battery that I need for my regular 10 hour loops, so I’m out”.

“Doesn’t have more power than my KTM MotoX bike, so I’m out”.

“Is the Gen4 motor and battery retrofit compatible with the Gen3? If not, the usual shoddy treatment of customers who love Spesh”..

Etc etc! 😏😂
 
in standard tune the Bosch CX gen4 needs a relatively high cadence..ie 70+. I ride with a mate on a Levo and it is clear he achieves the same amount of assist as me at 70 at c 50. That was until I used the Flow app to tune the motor response. Now I get good power assist at really low cadence and it stays strong right up to 85.(I dont know if the Bosch gen5 is any different in that respect). I would be very reluctant to use a bike with any other motor if it could not match how my motor responds having done the tuning in the Flow App

do you even bike at 50 rpm?! its still called mountainbiking…
 
I haven't seen anything regarding which cells they use but DJI batteries are 200g lighter than the new Bosch power tubes like for like. They are both 36V. My hunch is that the cell configuration will be the same to achieve that voltage with similar capacities, so DJI either has a very light hardware design or they have smaller lighter cells and are running them harder in a wider window perhaps.
so far the dji batteries are internal only, so need a less heavy housing. the bosch ones are also removable so need a more durable housing
 
Let’s just fast forward to whenever the Gen 4 breaks cover;

“What a lame release, Amflow/DJI better in every area, total fail by Specilaized”.

“Spesh have knocked it out of the park, ordered!”.

“Ok bike, but at that price they can shove it, ordered a Boardman from Halfords…”.

“Strokes Gen 3 Levo with £15k of upgrades whilst shaking head at price of new S-Works”.

“Doesn’t have a 1037Wh side removable and self charging battery that I need for my regular 10 hour loops, so I’m out”.

“Doesn’t have more power than my KTM MotoX bike, so I’m out”.

“Is the Gen4 motor and battery retrofit compatible with the Gen3? If not, the usual shoddy treatment of customers who love Spesh”..

Etc etc! 😏😂
Dont forget this new Gen 4 was already to go last year, then the DJI came out and it got pulled. Been told this morning from local store its not bum on a seat until early Q2, Spz still have a lot of current bikes to move, and they are selling at the discount prices.
 
Dont forget this new Gen 4 was already to go last year, then the DJI came out and it got pulled. Been told this morning from local store its not bum on a seat until early Q2, Spz still have a lot of current bikes to move, and they are selling at the discount prices.
I used to work at a bike shop and we made shit up and told customers what they wanted to hear - they loved it
 
Dont forget this new Gen 4 was already to go last year, then the DJI came out and it got pulled. Been told this morning from local store its not bum on a seat until early Q2, Spz still have a lot of current bikes to move, and they are selling at the discount prices.

They would have had even more bikes to move last year had the Gen 4 been released then, surely?

Or, are you saying that when they delayed the Gen 4 ‘cos DJI’ that they went and over manufactured a load of Gen 3 Levo’s in response that they now need to sell before they can release the Gen4?!

My tongue in cheek comments will apply to whenever they release the Gen4 anyway.

If I were Specialized, I’d call it the Gen5 now, just for fun…
 
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