Kenevo Gen1 2023 kenevo comp fattie

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Best i start with this, my Trek9.9 bosch 2018 2.8 tyres full sus has been amazing but lacked suspension on the big trails.
So i upgraded to a New kenevo comp fattie full power.
My problem is the rolling drag is horrendous. nothing is binding but between jumps it drags. my trek wouldnt do this.
between jumps im having to pedal hard as the motor cuts out 15mph and cant get enough speed. i feel like ive took a stepbackwards as i could clear these jumps before.

does anyone else have this issue, my dealer says the bike is fine also ( battery consumption is very high)
 
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bomber123 said:
Best i start with this, my Trek9.9 bosch 2018 2.8 tyres full sus has been amazing but lacked suspension on the big trails.
So i upgraded to a New kenevo comp fattie full power.
My problem is the rolling drag is horrendous. nothing is binding but between jumps it drags. my trek wouldnt do this.
between jumps im having to pedal hard as the motor cuts out 15mph and cant get enough speed. i feel like ive took a stepbackwards as i could clear these jumps before.

does anyone else have this issue, my dealer says the bike is fine also ( battery consumption is very high)
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What tyres and what width are they? Also what pressures are you running them at?
 
I’m running 25psi in the rear
Front 28psi
My trek had fatter tyres and I ran 22 rear 25 front and had no roll issues
 
bomber123 said:
I’m running 25psi in the rear
Front 28psi
My trek had fatter tyres and I ran 22 rear 25 front and had no roll issues
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What tyres/wheel sizes?
I typically run front tyre quite a bit softer than the rear.........I run 2.5 tyres 29in typically at 18 front 20 rear for forest trails, 20 front 22 rear for more rocky terrain. Pressures are however unlikely to be your issue.....more likely the actual tyres you are using and the compound of those tyres.
 
Thanks for the reply.
I use what came with the bike Butcher tyres.
 
My old 2020 Kenevo did not feel like I have anchor behind me (maxxis asegai and minion dhr combo). I bought 2023 Kenevo and still have with original tires on it and it feels like you described. I have to peddal a lot more like my buddy on 2023 Levo with original tires. Why, I dont know..
 
When I got my 22 Kenevo elite it seemed to have a lot of drag, the stock tires have huge grip….. but the tread is like playdoo. T9 rubber is awesome in the wet but it rolls like you are low on air. My advice is pull the front one and mount a faster rolling tire and save the other tire to replace the rear when it dies. I use a 2.8 wild enduro.
 
OP, I have the same bike as you, and yes it feels super draggy in stock form. I will be changing out the tyres and going tubeless once I decide whether to go with 29er wheels or not. Other than that the bike feels fabulous I have to say. Anyway let us know how you get on with a tyre change...
 
Why are you running such high pressure in the front vs the rear?

I run 20-22F and 25-27R depending on conditions. But I mix between Conti and Maxxis rubber.

What's the weight of your Kenevo?
 
‘23 kenevo expert, swapped the boxxer for a fox 38 and run maxxis tires. It’s definitely heavier (and slacker) than my gen 3 levo but the difference is no where near what you are describing. I‘m in Canada so motors don’t drop off until 32 kmh
 
The front tire steers and does most of your braking, you should be running a little less pressure in it compared to the rear to unlock its full traction potential. The rear supports most of your weight and takes more abuse because of it so running it higher helps a lot with rolling resistance, rim damage and flat protection.

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My 2021 set up as a 29er with a fox 38 has no drag at all probably the best climbing bike I've ever owned..
18f. 23r pulls better and faster as a 29er I'm in USA
 
Yea, my 2022 expert came with 2.6’s, REALLY SLOW rolling tires but they grip like crazy. I live in the northeast U.S., home of wet roots and slick rocks. The T9 rubber compound will also not last long with road rides…. Some trails are about 5 miles from my house so I ride to them a far amount but 10 miles of road each ride killed the rear tire pretty fast.
 
Can someone let me know...the 23/24 kenevo comp comes with a fox 38 rythm fork...will that take a 29er wheel? Like is it 27.5/ 29.
Cheers. I also see they've gone back to coil shock. ??? As my 2020 kenevo ate coils weekly and I had to swap for dpx2 as per specialized stated? Any Info. Thanks
 
A 29 wheel might fit but when fully compressed but the crown to tyre gap won’t be enough for a safe ride hence why they make wheel specific forks . You could change the lowers to 29 for that extra room but probably easier to sell them and buy some 29ers .
As for the shock I’m not 100% but think on the 1st gen2’s there were issues with the shaft coming loose and losing oil so they replaced them with air shocks . They must’ve sorted it now and gone back to coil . I had the dpx2 warranty upgraded but use a Super Drluxe Ultimate which I’m happy with 👍
 
Cheers....I had some 38s before n sure they said 27.5 / 29 on fork leg...but I think these rythms are 27.5 only
 
bomber123 said:
Best i start with this, my Trek9.9 bosch 2018 2.8 tyres full sus has been amazing but lacked suspension on the big trails.
So i upgraded to a New kenevo comp fattie full power.
My problem is the rolling drag is horrendous. nothing is binding but between jumps it drags. my trek wouldnt do this.
between jumps im having to pedal hard as the motor cuts out 15mph and cant get enough speed. i feel like ive took a stepbackwards as i could clear these jumps before.

does anyone else have this issue, my dealer says the bike is fine also ( battery consumption is very high)
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Did you make any progress in getting your Kenevo over the jumps like the old bike? I'm in the same boat. I just got a new Kenevo. I've been riding it three weeks now. It ticked all the boxes for the first few rides. The Boxxers up front give so much confidence. One of the boxes the Kenevo hasn't ticked is one of the most important ones, jumping. Getting over jumps I used to clear has become much more difficult.
I'm currently trying to improve that and I'm looking for tips. I've had some success.
I've swapped out the Boxxer lowers to accommodate a 29 wheel. I've replaced the 27.5 with a carbon 29 wheel that I kept from the last bike and I've changed the tire to a Magic Mary. I've taken the bike out yesterday and it's made a big difference. I only had limited time on it for testing but I'm excited to get back out on it
 
I don't know exactly what problems you have with jumps on the Kenevo but it may be something as simple as getting used to creating more compression on the ramp due to greater suspension travel.....and/or rebound set too slow. I found on my last 180/170 travel bike you had to be less passive than on my 160/150 travel bikes or the suspension would just absorb the lift
 
Mikerb said:
I don't know exactly what problems you have with jumps on the Kenevo but it may be something as simple as getting used to creating more compression on the ramp due to greater suspension travel.....and/or rebound set too slow. I found on my last 180/170 travel bike you had to be less passive than on my 160/150 travel bikes or the suspension would just absorb the lift
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I feel like the back end is not getting as much spring as my last bike. It feels much heavier. I had a Giant Reign E01 which is the same weight as the Kenevo. Your point about having to put in more work when jumping is spot on. I changed the 500 spring to a 450 spring which has helped when loading up the backend before take off.
 
I am running a progressive rear spring with my fox dhx shock. I did send it to avalanche suspension and that completely changed the way the rear of the bike worked. If you don’t want to mess with a shop tune, just dumping some air out of the piggy back really helps on the dhx. Avalanche has a great page on the Kenevo

 
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