Indeed, would be interesting to find out george or volspeeds thoughts on firmware 1.1.2.0, hoping its just a random 504
I've got a volspeed v3 sitting here, holding off installing as I'm on 1.1.2.0 also
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Volspeed tuning box for Bosch gen 4
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I've got a volspeed v3 sitting here, holding off installing as I'm on 1.1.2.0 also
trekMountaineer
Member
I've kept the VOLspeed connected. I did my 12 mile penalty lap re: 504. I have re-tuned the bike to 24.8mph max speed, I will report if/when I get another 504.
Pilotfromdk
Member
Hi all
My 1st post
So far I have done +3000Km with VOLspeed running firmware 1.0.2.0 and the Kiox display.
Last week I received the Nyon2 (ordered 12th august...) I did 8Km and I got the 503 AND the 504
I tried to dodge the "penalty run" by attaching a motor to it (as seen on YouTube). NO luck. My Nyon2 started
going into standby mode and switching of the screen, and NOT counting the time or distance.
I switched back to the Kiox and tried the "motor" pedaling still @ 7.5Km/h again. No luck, display was now on for 1hour before standby.
8 hours into trying to out smart the software I did my 1,5 hour 32Km penalty run (in the rain)
before I was able to reset the 503 and 504 Error. 
I kept the VOLspeed connected and I have re-tuned the bike to 38 Km/h max speed and it's working fine (with Kiox)
I was not going to update the motor firmware to the 85Nm version (never touch a running system...)
But reading through different forums I think it might be the time to take the jump?
What do you think?
I really like the Nyon2 display.
Attached pictures shows 3 different ways I tried to attach a motor to do the pedaling for me. No luck?!
My 1st post
So far I have done +3000Km with VOLspeed running firmware 1.0.2.0 and the Kiox display.
Last week I received the Nyon2 (ordered 12th august...) I did 8Km and I got the 503 AND the 504
I tried to dodge the "penalty run" by attaching a motor to it (as seen on YouTube). NO luck. My Nyon2 started
going into standby mode and switching of the screen, and NOT counting the time or distance.
I switched back to the Kiox and tried the "motor" pedaling still @ 7.5Km/h again. No luck, display was now on for 1hour before standby.
8 hours into trying to out smart the software I did my 1,5 hour 32Km penalty run (in the rain)
before I was able to reset the 503 and 504 Error. I kept the VOLspeed connected and I have re-tuned the bike to 38 Km/h max speed and it's working fine (with Kiox)
I was not going to update the motor firmware to the 85Nm version (never touch a running system...)
But reading through different forums I think it might be the time to take the jump?
What do you think?
I really like the Nyon2 display.
Attached pictures shows 3 different ways I tried to attach a motor to do the pedaling for me. No luck?!
Hi all
My 1st post
So far I have done +3000Km with VOLspeed running firmware 1.0.2.0 and the Kiox display.
Last week I received the Nyon2 (ordered 12th august...) I did 8Km and I got the 503 AND the 504
Hello! Wow that sure is some dedication to avoiding the penalty cycle! ?
Others seem to be ok with 1.1.2.0, I've not had a chance to upgrade yet. I wonder if the Nyon2 is the culprit for your errors? Maybe go to 1.1.2.0 and if it happens again go back to the Kiox to see what happens! Keep us updated!
Fuzz
Member
I'm running 1.1.0.0 and have the V3 set at 60kmh. I've done another 800kms since last post with no errors. I always let the display time out by itself after using the Volspeed... I don't think I'll touch the firmware, as I'm happy with performance, and lack of errors. (Purion display)
Pilotfromdk
Member
Hi all
My 1st post
So far I have done +3000Km with VOLspeed running firmware 1.0.2.0 and the Kiox display.
Last week I received the Nyon2 (ordered 12th august...) I did 8Km and I got the 503 AND the 504
I tried to dodge the "penalty run" by attaching a motor to it (as seen on YouTube). NO luck. My Nyon2 started
going into standby mode and switching of the screen, and NOT counting the time or distance.
I switched back to the Kiox and tried the "motor" pedaling still @ 7.5Km/h again. No luck, display was now on for 1hour before standby.
8 hours into trying to out smart the software I did my 1,5 hour 32Km penalty run (in the rain)
I kept the VOLspeed connected and I have re-tuned the bike to 38 Km/h max speed and it's working fine (with Kiox)
I was not going to update the motor firmware to the 85Nm version (never touch a running system...)
But reading through different forums I think it might be the time to take the jump?
What do you think?
I really like the Nyon2 display.
Attached pictures shows 3 different ways I tried to attach a motor to do the pedaling for me. No luck?!
View attachment 46241View attachment 46244View attachment 46242View attachment 46243
Update 04.12.2020. I just did a 40K ride. No problems.
PhilBaker
Well-known member
Try messaging George (eBiketuner.com) on this forum or he has a website below and ships to Europe:
VOLspeed V3 Tuning Chip for Bosch Gen4 eBikes (link for Volspeed 3 for Bosch)
VOLspeed V3 Tuning Chip for Bosch Gen4 eBikes (link for Volspeed 3 for Bosch)
PhilBaker
Well-known member
For those people with a Kiox display, what is the 'alternating' range indicator saying on the Kiox? the manual says the Purion shows range for 4 second then battery percent remaining for 1 sec I believe, but not sure that is what its showing on the Kiox as you can read the battery % always?
Is it showing the the range from the Volspeed and flashing for 1 second the range from the standard computer (which clearly doesn't understand what Volspeed is doing to the range)?
Is it showing the the range from the Volspeed and flashing for 1 second the range from the standard computer (which clearly doesn't understand what Volspeed is doing to the range)?
PhilBaker
Well-known member
Froffytop
Member
For the people who have had error codes come up with the Volspeed, what type of riding have you mostly been doing? (I.e commuting long distances on road at speeds or riding on MTB trails with constantly varying speeds)
And what modes have you mostly been using? (I.e EMTB or turbo?)
And what modes have you mostly been using? (I.e EMTB or turbo?)
Hi!
Is there anything new since then?
Did you put the volSpeed V3 back in the new engine?
If so, how much speed limit have you set and how far have you traveled since then?
If so, has error 504 ever occurred since then?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
mastakilla
Member
Apologize if this info is already in the thread, have a couple questions.
1. When you do a penalty lap to reset the 504 error, do you have to remove the volspeed to get the reset or can you leave it in?
2. If you reset the 504 error yourself with the penalty lap, will this count against your overall strikes with Bosch with regard to when they blacklist you for resets?
3. What is the generally agreed upon max speed you can get away with volspeed?
4. Anyone hit 3 strikes? Anyone actually have to square off with dealer/bosch to get a 3 strike bike de-limped?
1. When you do a penalty lap to reset the 504 error, do you have to remove the volspeed to get the reset or can you leave it in?
2. If you reset the 504 error yourself with the penalty lap, will this count against your overall strikes with Bosch with regard to when they blacklist you for resets?
3. What is the generally agreed upon max speed you can get away with volspeed?
4. Anyone hit 3 strikes? Anyone actually have to square off with dealer/bosch to get a 3 strike bike de-limped?
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Fuzz
Member
Volspeed 3 fitted for about 2200kms, set at 70 kmh (it gets up to 63kmh on the beach with a tailwind), no errors, but I always let it time out by itself rather than manually switching display off (Purion). Mostly ride in turbo, lots of varied riding from single track, some downhill and roads...
Good to hear fuzz. What firmware you on? Tia
Fuzz
Member
Hey Tia, I'm on firmware 1.1.0.0
Thanks for the update...im on 1.2.0.0 getting the v3 fitted at weekend...just can't face riding it without the motor if I get a 504
PhilBaker
Well-known member
1) Leave it in
2) Yes
3) I found game changing improvement to the feel of the bike with just a 7mph increase so 22mph new limit. Don’t think there are many/any 504’s at that level. I’m over 500 miles with no issues, really impressed with it. From peoples comments I would think you should easily be safe with a 10mph increase by which time your legs are going to be spinning pretty damn fast!
4) I think you could talk your way out of it without too much hassle ?
PhilBaker
Well-known member
Whilst on 1.1.0.0, looking at all the threads on here, I think 22mph is Super safe (and game changing in the ride feel and removing the "hitting the wall" feeling). From what I can tell 25mph should also bar pretty much problem free (and there's only so much cadence you can put through the pedals unless you start upgrading your drive train).
Thanks Phil, appreciate the heads up. Looking forward to not running out of assistance before I reach a more realistic cruise speed
PhilBaker
Well-known member
I've upgrading a fair few components but without doubt, the Volspeed is the best in terms of the the change in ride experience!Thanks Phil, appreciate the heads up. Looking forward to not running out of assistance before I reach a more realistic cruise speed
HI All just thought id update my info:
Purion display, Canyon grail on e gravel Bike
Total kms 1500 on Volspeed no issues (touch wood )
Now on V 1.1.2.0 (500km) I removed the dongle before my local bike shop did the update and reinstalled no issue, it remembered my pin code also.
I have max speed set to 50kph. also I let the bike turn itself off after a ride and importantly I think, do a mix of speeds and rarely travel at max speed for too long as I'm climbing well below max speed or descending when I'm freewheeling at that kind of speed. I live in the mountains.
George from e bike tuner said long rides at max speed like 50kph on the flat will eventually lead to problems which makes sense when you think about it,
Cheers...
Purion display, Canyon grail on e gravel Bike
Total kms 1500 on Volspeed no issues (touch wood )
Now on V 1.1.2.0 (500km) I removed the dongle before my local bike shop did the update and reinstalled no issue, it remembered my pin code also.
I have max speed set to 50kph. also I let the bike turn itself off after a ride and importantly I think, do a mix of speeds and rarely travel at max speed for too long as I'm climbing well below max speed or descending when I'm freewheeling at that kind of speed. I live in the mountains.
George from e bike tuner said long rides at max speed like 50kph on the flat will eventually lead to problems which makes sense when you think about it,
Cheers...
Malabar
New Member
hi sorry for the translation (google). I come from France. Since yesterday my Focus bosch cx performance gen4 display kiox gives me the error 503.
Electric assistance shuts off at 18km / h.
I have a 3.0 speedbox which worked fine until yesterday.
it really is because of the speedbox. an idea to remove the error because my seller does not want to remove it a second time
Electric assistance shuts off at 18km / h.
I have a 3.0 speedbox which worked fine until yesterday.
it really is because of the speedbox. an idea to remove the error because my seller does not want to remove it a second time
Pilotfromdk
Member
Gen 4
Volspeed V3
1200 km total now, 2 times 504 Speed limited to 45kph doing 12.3km course x2 each day.
1st happened around 700km, with first firmware it came with MY2020.
2nd around 1000km after a firmware upgrade, can´t recall which one I have now atm.
Can check it out, if someone is interested.
Once 503 aswell but after 1km riding or restart it was gone, cant remember really what I did.
EDIT: Yes I do have the 1.1.2.0. That was the 2nd time it throw a code for me. Thats the 85nm version what I understand.
Volspeed V3
1200 km total now, 2 times 504 Speed limited to 45kph doing 12.3km course x2 each day.
1st happened around 700km, with first firmware it came with MY2020.
2nd around 1000km after a firmware upgrade, can´t recall which one I have now atm.
Can check it out, if someone is interested.
Once 503 aswell but after 1km riding or restart it was gone, cant remember really what I did.
EDIT: Yes I do have the 1.1.2.0. That was the 2nd time it throw a code for me. Thats the 85nm version what I understand.
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Thanks for the info..im on 1.1.2.0 ..just intalled the vol v3...had a quick burn at 28mph max speed for around 5 miles to check it was working ( I left bike to turn off automatically, just in case)...different bike altogether!!!.. however ,I'm too nervous about getting a 504...so the next time I'm out...ill be setting at 20mph and keeping a log...ill keep u all posted.
Thanks for the info..im on 1.1.2.0 ..just intalled the vol v3...had a quick burn at 28mph max speed for around 5 miles to check it was working ( I left bike to turn off automatically, just in case)...different bike altogether!!!.. however ,I'm too nervous about getting a 504...so the next time I'm out...ill be setting at 20mph and keeping a log...ill keep u all posted.
It´s amazing right?
I will try to lower it to 35-38, from 45. Im Usually around 40-45 and thats the bad spot for being detected by the software.
Fingers crossed no 3rd 504.
Just waiting for some new tires, tubes, cassette and ofc warmer weather and I will see what happens.
Those speeds with emtb eats your drivetrain like breakfast..
Maybe a good idea...I'd love to set a higher speed...time will tell. Fingers crossed u don't get another 504 bud. Just had to shell out for a new cassette on my cube tm ...sore one!! Tires next! The joysIt´s amazing right?
I will try to lower it to 35-38, from 45. Im Usually around 40-45 and thats the bad spot for being detected by the software.
Fingers crossed no 3rd 504.
Just waiting for some new tires, tubes, cassette and ofc warmer weather and I will see what happens.
Those speeds with emtb eats your drivetrain like breakfast..
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