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When I called and asked about options being removed from the site they told me that means they are all sold....so all sizes of signature preorders are sold I'm guessing....it's odd that it disappears and doesn't stay up so you can see specs, but if you look back at 2020 it only shows options that are available in inventory...so I assume that is how their site is structured
 
When I called and asked about options being removed from the site they told me that means they are all sold....so all sizes of signature preorders are sold I'm guessing....it's odd that it disappears and doesn't stay up so you can see specs, but if you look back at 2020 it only shows options that are available in inventory...so I assume that is how their site is structured
Yep
 
It will be nice when they can actually ships bikes rather than just holding onto my pre-order cash! I’m a bit concerned about how much time the rework to the motor will take.
 
It will be nice when they can actually ships bikes rather than just holding onto my pre-order cash! I’m a bit concerned about how much time the rework to the motor will take.
I’m scared of this as well. My friend who is knowledgeable about the bike industry said he wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t see out bikes until March 2021.
 
Commencal makes headlines on mainstream tech site:



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I’m thinking about March time also.

Shimano need to rework the EP8 production line. They say motor will be ready by end of year.

Then it needs to be delivered to From Japan to OEM manufacturers in Taiwan.

Chinese New Year in beginning of Feb means shutdown for a couple of weeks.

Bike needs to be assembled then delivered from Taiwan to the brands.

Then is shipped from the brand to customer.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s March 2021.
 
i actually was discussing this issue a bit with the commencal customer service... i have 3 bikes from commencal and usually i am very happy with the service they providee. but i am struggling to pay 7k and the wait half a year, what do they do with the cash? so i asked to make a pre-order and then pay when shipping, but a big NO from commencal...
 
According to the information I got from Commencal they have the bikes already in stock in France, and Shimano confirmed they will start delivering new motors in October. Commencal will do the swap directly at their warehouse, without shipping the bikes back, so they are still confident to deliver bikes to final customer in December (at least in Europe)
 
According to the information I got from Commencal they have the bikes already in stock in France, and Shimano confirmed they will start delivering new motors in October. Commencal will do the swap directly at their warehouse, without shipping the bikes back, so they are still confident to deliver bikes to final customer in December (at least in Europe)

In the USA, the current commitment is February 2021:

 
In the USA, the current commitment is February 2021:

Some sizes of that model still show December 2020.
 
I’m thinking about March time also.

Shimano need to rework the EP8 production line. They say motor will be ready by end of year.

Then it needs to be delivered to From Japan to OEM manufacturers in Taiwan.

Chinese New Year in beginning of Feb means shutdown for a couple of weeks.

Bike needs to be assembled then delivered from Taiwan to the brands.

Then is shipped from the brand to customer.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s March 2021.
I really hope that’s not the case for the US. Otherwise I would may have waited for a completely different style ebike that is supposed to be released around that same timeframe.
 
I really hope that’s not the case for the US. Otherwise I would may have waited for a completely different style ebike that is supposed to be released around that same timeframe.
I also hope it’s not the case. But it’s possible. Basically we are waiting for a motor from a retooled production line that Shimano told me will be ready by the end of the year.
 
I dont see why Commencal doesn't do a 'deposit' for the pre-order, not the full amount, especially since delivery is at least 3 months away at best! That's total crap! They should offer a 25% deposit for a hold, or even do 50%, then balance is due once it's ready for shipment.
 
I dont see why Commencal doesn't do a 'deposit' for the pre-order, not the full amount, especially since delivery is at least 3 months away at best! That's total crap! They should offer a 25% deposit for a hold, or even do 50%, then balance is due once it's ready for shipment.
Privateer bikes did a $100 deposit for pre-order I believe. (On their new pedal bike released a few months ago).
 
Commencal UK web store is now showing “in stock” for certain sizes of the meta power29” models. Has there been a change in the situation with the motors? They were pre order for December delivery this morning which fits the narrative of the motor issue but now they’re showing in stock & available to buy???
 
Commencal UK web store is now showing “in stock” for certain sizes of the meta power29” models. Has there been a change in the situation with the motors? They were pre order for December delivery this morning which fits the narrative of the motor issue but now they’re showing in stock & available to buy???
I see that on the Europe store too. The U.S. store still shows December. A change in motor status or a website mistake?
 
Just found out the other bike I was considering, the Trek Rail 9.8, has a 120 day ETA. They are also having issues, although not Shimano related. Looks like a long wait either way... ?
 
Update from commencal email this morning. They had website issues yesterday. The bikes are not in stock (well they are but with the dodgy motors). Timescale for pre order is still December. New motors will be swapped out in their French warehouse where the bikes are currently being held. On a side note I’m booked on a Focus demo day on Monday & should get to test both the Sam2 6.9 & 6.8 (according to the host dealer ??) which if it goes well might mean I don’t care about the ep8 delay anymore ?
 
Covid strikes again. Focus demo is now cancelled due to the new rule of 6 restrictions. Looks like I’m back to a coin toss to choose between the meta power & the sam2
 
Maybe something to know before placing an order...

there will be a Meta Power Ohlins edition in March...looking at the normal meta...this could be very tempting
 
Covid strikes again. Focus demo is now cancelled due to the new rule of 6 restrictions. Looks like I’m back to a coin toss to choose between the meta power & the sam2
Very curious to hear your impression of the SAM2 if you ever get to ride it. I think many of us are considering other options due to the Shimano mess...
 
Very curious to hear your impression of the SAM2 if you ever get to ride it. I think many of us are considering other options due to the Shimano mess...

I agree, mess it is. I was pretty set on this bike, but now I think I might go the Levo route... Seems to be the right battery size, etc.
 
The SAM2 6.9 looks pretty good. Very comparable price and kit to the Signature. Bosch CX a great motor.
 
The SAM2 6.9 looks pretty good. Very comparable price and kit to the Signature. Bosch CX a great motor.
The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.
 
The Bosch is also noticeably more powerful than the Shimano EP8. Although the integration / display no where near as good.
I know this is a Commencal thread, but Rob have you ridden the new SAM2? I have the Signature on order but as we know that's not written in stone.
 
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