I have a full fat 2022 kenevo expert that I absolutely love, selling it to a good mate of mine and have ordered a new karve evo rsx, hopefully the new evo rsx will bring me as much joy as the kenevo has, if it wasn't for the motor being old in comparison to the new bikes I would have kept it and just upgraded it. ive upgraded the rear shock on the evo rsx to a est e-STORIA so hopefully with the new m2s motor it will bring me as much joy as my lime green flying machine
Whyte Karve Evo
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James_MTB
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I contacted Whyte via email and received this reply.: "The Karve RSX is our lighter option within the Karve range and is hopefully close to the 20kg mark, depending slightly on the final build spec."
I was going to wait for the new Orbea Avinox Wild. Maybe not now.
looking forward to seeing the reviews of the karve trail bike be one id be getting. Glad to see Whyte have gone fair on the price too
Must be more than rear triangle, shock & fork that’s different I’d imagine. We’re talking 3kg a difference between bikes, unless the original 23.9 weight of the Karve RSX was misrepresented.
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davosaurusrex
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Wheels, tyres, brakes, drivetrain?
According to various websites & geo geeks it’s all quite similar components on the 2 top end bikes
I’d end up putting a 38 on the lighter bike anyway.
Shame you cant spec the evo RSX with the carbon rear triangle.
You never know, Whyre might offer it as an upgrade or after market part in the near future
When I scanned the build kits they looked identical - same drivetrain, wheels, tyres, dropper, finishing kit. And Whyte have said it is exactly the same frame so as far as I can see the ONLY weight differences are fork/shock/carbon rear triangle. That's 1kg give or take. And the 160 bike has as 29er rear wheel and tyre which will be heavier than the 27.5 on the EVO which will offset some of that.
I can't see how the 160 is going to be any lighter than 23kg. (Edited - 23kg not 22)
You could swap parts to save weight yourself - the DT Hybrid 1900 wheel set weights 2200g while their DT EXC 1500 is 1800g. Take off the DD rear tyre and replace with an EXO+ or a Conti Enduro casing would be another 100g or so. It'll probably come with a cheap saddle that won't be that light - could save another 100g or more there. The Maven brakes are heavy - 380g per end. Hope or Shimano XT would save maybe 150g? Theres a reason Amflow fit the Magura at c250g!
That would get it towards 22kg (edited 22kg not 21) without sacrificing performance or toughness but it's a chunk of cash.
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davosaurusrex
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I wouldn't be going lighter on tyre casings on a full power Ebike, personally
Tyre casing depends on trails and rider weight and the tyre pressures you run more than bike weight surely? You're not going downhill faster on an e bike, the change in system weight for me going from an unpowered bike to the Karve might be about 5kg but that's from 95-100kg, far less than the difference. between me and my partner or some of the peopel I ride with (20kg lighter or heavier respectively). I've had no issues with Conti Enduro.
I can see why you might want a DD on the Evo given its purpose. Less so on the 160
Edited. I’d got the weights wrong in writing it. At most the 160 is 1kg lighter than the 180. The Karve is going to be 23kg. You could cut another c1kg fitting more expensive wheels and changing brakes, rear tyre and some finishing kit without sacrificing performance and get it close to 22kg.
