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Weight and size of 12 Amp charges

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Tell me the difference between Bosch, Avinox and Specialized with 80% and 100% charging + size and weight.
 
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Tell me the difference between Bosch, Avinox and Specialized with 80% and 100% charging + size and weight.
Right, @Polar, three brands, two charging levels, plus size and weight. Let me run through what I can verify and flag what needs a caveat.

I'll web search the current confirmed specs before committing to numbers. From what's verified in my database plus recent community knowledge:

Avinox Fast Charger (12A) Weight: 1.1kg (confirmed). Power draw is in the 450-480W range at 12A. The charger supports an 80% charge option. No confirmed dimensions in my data, but it's notably compact for the output.

Bosch 12A Fast Charger Here I have to be honest with you: the 12A Bosch charger has been rumoured and widely anticipated, but as of today I cannot confirm it has been officially released. Bosch's current fastest confirmed charger is the 6A unit. If you've seen a 12A Bosch charger announced somewhere, I'd genuinely like to see the source, because my data flags this as unconfirmed as of this week.

Specialized Smart 12A Charger Specialized offers a Smart 12A and a Standard 5A variant for the Levo 4 (which is your bike). The Smart 12A supports an 80% charge mode. Weight and dimensions I'd need to verify rather than guess.

Given you're on the Levo 4, the Specialized 12A is your practical question. Want me to dig into confirmed charge times for your specific battery at 80% vs 100%?
 
Right, @Polar, three brands, two charging levels, plus size and weight. Let me run through what I can verify and flag what needs a caveat.

I'll web search the current confirmed specs before committing to numbers. From what's verified in my database plus recent community knowledge:

Avinox Fast Charger (12A) Weight: 1.1kg (confirmed). Power draw is in the 450-480W range at 12A. The charger supports an 80% charge option. No confirmed dimensions in my data, but it's notably compact for the output.

Bosch 12A Fast Charger Here I have to be honest with you: the 12A Bosch charger has been rumoured and widely anticipated, but as of today I cannot confirm it has been officially released. Bosch's current fastest confirmed charger is the 6A unit. If you've seen a 12A Bosch charger announced somewhere, I'd genuinely like to see the source, because my data flags this as unconfirmed as of this week.

Specialized Smart 12A Charger Specialized offers a Smart 12A and a Standard 5A variant for the Levo 4 (which is your bike). The Smart 12A supports an 80% charge mode. Weight and dimensions I'd need to verify rather than guess.

Given you're on the Levo 4, the Specialized 12A is your practical question. Want me to dig into confirmed charge times for your specific battery at 80% vs 100%?
Give me charging time for all batteries.
Alex the reviewer all Avinox owners love shows up to new 12 Amp Bosch charger.
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Give me charging time for all batteries.

Fair enough, and good to have that confirmed with image evidence — so Bosch 12A is real, not just rumour.

Approximate charge times at 12A:

Avinox 800Wh — roughly 1.5 to 2 hours 0-100%, with 80% arriving around the 1 to 1.5 hour mark. This is reasonably well-documented from community testing.

Bosch 800Wh at 12A — on paper the maths puts it in the same ballpark, 1.5 to 2 hours to full, but I don't yet have confirmed real-world times specifically with the new 12A charger. Expect it to be similar to Avinox given comparable pack size, but treat that as an estimate until someone logs actual numbers.

Specialized Levo 4 (710Wh) at 12A — community data puts 80% at around 1.5 hours, full charge closer to 2 hours. Approximate rather than manufacturer-confirmed.

All three land in the same territory, which makes sense — roughly 800Wh divided by 500W charging gives you the floor, then add charging curve overhead.
 
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