SRAM AXS pogo pins fix

Im keen to know what your long term fix has been. Ive got a Rival AXS xplr derailleur that's got a failed pin. Unfortunately with this model you can't take the cover off easily to replace the pins, There are no obvious screws to remove. Currently Im using a piece of tin foil folded up about 8 times and sitting it on top of the pin. Surprisingly its working really well, but hardly think its a long term solution.
My blob of solder on the pins is still working 7 months later. I don't like it as a fix, as I'm sure it will fail at some point, but it's OK so far.
 
⚡ EMTB Pro Go Pro — Living Intelligence Reports, exclusive discounts & ad-free Up to 25% off Peaty's, PEMBREE, Magicshine & more · Ad-free browsing · Pro badge See the deals →
My blob of solder on the pins is still working 7 months later. I don't like it as a fix, as I'm sure it will fail at some point, but it's OK so far.
Ok that's great. Im might do that too, and carry some tin foil in my emergency pack :mad:.
 
I bought a second hand SRAM AXS derailleur from eBay some months back, very quickly I noticed there was intermittent power issues. Eventually it stopped connecting and it appeared to be the little pins (pogo pins) not moving free enough.

I stripped it down and ordered 100 pins from Amazon, a friend who has the skills soldered the new pins (very tricky due to size) and it’s now working like new.

If anyone needs to do this fix please contact me and will happily post some pogo pins for the cost of a stamp.

View attachment 132255
I have not looked into my idea yet. I want to find a spring (ID about 5mils smaller than the OD of the outer barrel of the Pogo pin). The free length of the spring would be the same or a bit longer as the uncompressed length of the Pogo pin. The spring OD should be smaller than the contact area on the battery. Press the spring on the Pogo pin. The contact area of the spring to the pin/battery should be sufficient for the current. The spring should be made out of SST to avoid corrosion. None SST spring could be coated with conducting grease. Seems simpler than replacing the pins and easy to replace the spring if damaged....
 
I bought a second hand SRAM AXS derailleur from eBay some months back, very quickly I noticed there was intermittent power issues. Eventually it stopped connecting and it appeared to be the little pins (pogo pins) not moving free enough.

I stripped it down and ordered 100 pins from Amazon, a friend who has the skills soldered the new pins (very tricky due to size) and it’s now working like new.

If anyone needs to do this fix please contact me and will happily post some pogo pins for the cost of a stamp.

Hey! Thanks for the suggestion! Would you be able to post out some pins please! I’m hoping it will fix my electronic gears! Thanks
 
Hey I’ve been having issues with my electronic gears then realised it was the pogo pins that were getting stuck. Would be great if I could have some pins off you and I’ll try and see if that will work. Thank you!
 
Hey thanks so much it’s better than buying a whole new charger just for the pins. Cheers
 
Well I've had a good outcome, Somebody suggested trying a warranty claim. My derailleur is 3 years old and done 14500 km, and one of. the pogo pins was stuck down. Rival xplr version doesn't seem to be repairable, as the plate holding the pins doesn't have those 2 screws holding it in place.
A very good option is 2 Fold a piece of tin foil and place it over the damaged pin. This never failed but is less than ideal.

Anyway Sram have replaced my derailleur with a new Force version. Thankyou!!!!
 
Mine failed in the same way, I did the same fix, but my soldering skills were not quite up to scratch, and the first attempt failed after a few rides. I've resoldered them and hopefully this fix will last.


Can you link to the pogo pins you bought?
Hello
Do you have any of these left?
These seem to be sold in bags of 100.... which is way too much, I need one but if you have 10, that should be more than enough for a very long time.

Note I just joined so probably don't have privilege to contact you although you may be able to PM me.

BTW I'm I UK .
 
Hello
Do you have any of these left?
These seem to be sold in bags of 100.... which is way too much, I need one but if you have 10, that should be more than enough for a very long time.

Note I just joined so probably don't have privilege to contact you although you may be able to PM me.

BTW I'm I UK .
I gave all mine to e-bike motor repair in fordingbridge
I know you end up buying a lot. My new e-bike links directory the main battery so hopefully not a problem anymore, for me.
 
Thanks for the quick response.
I was meant reply to WoodyBoy who is offering to post these.
It's a while since I the post so they may be all gone.
It's not the end of the world nor will I be broke if I buy 100, just a bit pointless buying so many.
 
Honestly without going to pin solution which is a temporary fix as it will do it again take a aluminum sheet, make a little form rectanglular and ball in the middle. Add some adhesive and voilà.

You force a little when installing it but without any issue and the sheet is compressed not anything else.

Done that for nearly 2 years now and had not touch it on my two little batteries.
 
Right, so SRAM's master plan was to take the most reliable part of mountain biking - the derailleur - and make it depend on tiny springs that give up faster than my motivation on a Monday morning.

@Mteam nailed it - these pins are about as fit for purpose as a chocolate teapot. The fact that people are bodging fixes with solder blobs and tin foil tells you everything you need to know about a £1000+ drivetrain. My mate's got AXS and spends more time nursing those pins than I do explaining why my chain's worn out again.

@Stever - if the tin foil trick's working, you're basically one step away from wrapping the whole mech in clingfilm and calling it weatherproof. Proper SRAM engineering that.

The irony is cables just... work. Rain, mud, being dropped off a cliff - they carry on. But apparently what we all needed was a wireless system that's allergic to moisture and has the structural integrity of a soggy biscuit.

Still, at least when your AXS fails you get to practice your mechanical sympathy skills. And by mechanical sympathy, I mean creative swearing while fashioning electrical contacts out of kitchen supplies.
 
So this is not totally a SRAM design by essence, tons of product out there are using pins and they all face these issue after a while, including sport wrist / items. But yeah ... this is totally bad and stupid.

There might be better design but in the end past the inconvenience of it once in a lifetime with the alloy sheet, you do not have to worry or do anything else for years.

Saying cable works is just that, they work but you depending on the trail condition, the way people shift on an ebike, under load etc, they can really do not last much in comparison, cables are not consistent once they start to wear a bit.

Something less to carry honestly is not that bad, plus, the derailleur is really bullet proof, absord chock and go back to previous position, I have destroyed many classic derailleur where not yet one axs and humor me, I crash a lot and not at low speed unfortunately.

On the other side, the axs shift exactly the same the whole time, a little less fast as Shimano mechanical - maybe Di2 is better on that, did not test it yet, might be interesting to see how it goes with moisture.
 
My 10 month old derailleur has decided to develop this problem with the pins. Just randomly went off mid ride yesterday. No power unless you push down on the back of the battery. Back to the LBS it goes
 
1000014503.jpg

Pins look fine and both move freely. Works fine if you push down on the back of the battery. Still going back to the LBS as it's in warranty.
 
LBS have updated me today. They have tested with another battery and apparently it works ok. So they have contacted sram for a warranty replacement. Personally I still think it's the derailleur but I have to go with what they say. Will not be amused if I get 10 miles out on a ride again and it fails.
 
I cleaned my pins with an emery board and this appears to have fixed a similar issue on my seatpost. I think the system is very fussy about the slightest impedance caused by a bit of oxidation on the tiny contact surfaces.
 
Nimm die Feuersteinfeder aus einem Feuerzeug. Kürze sie und schraube sie zwischen den Stift und die Halterplatte. Funktioniert einwandfrei.
 
Nimm die Feuersteinfeder aus einem Feuerzeug. Kürze sie und schraube sie zwischen den Stift und die Halterplatte. Funktioniert einwandfrei.
Update. I got some 6mm pogo pins and replaced the bad one (no spring pressure) (SRAM AXS X01 derailleur) and now it works.... but the clip for the battery is quite tight.
Investigation reveals the original pins are 4.5mm so the replacement pin is waaaay too long (it is what the Internet said)

So am going to get some 5mm pins and try again. It's quite a fiddly task as the hole in the PCB is larger than the pin so it needs to be held when soldering then held again when soldering on the wire.
 
Honestly without going to pin solution which is a temporary fix as it will do it again take a aluminum sheet, make a little form rectanglular and ball in the middle. Add some adhesive and voilà.

You force a little when installing it but without any issue and the sheet is compressed not anything else.

Done that for nearly 2 years now and had not touch it on my two little batteries.
With regards to your fix , do you add the foil battery side , or pogo pin side , I assume battery side , both contacts ?
 
Still waiting for the replacement battery from SRAM. Nearly a week to post out a battery is a joke imo. Still doubtful it's the battery but that's the diagnosis I was given by the LBS.
 
Finally got my bike back. So far they have changed the battery and everything appears to tb working so far. Axis test will be the first ride out. Will definitely be taking some aluminium foil just incase.
 
I have had this happen on a GX AXS and a newer T type GX AXS. Mine were both replaced under warranty but
SRAM diagnosed the problem instantly so I think it is a known design fault. Seems like a lot of people with the same issue.
Hi,
I bought a second hand SRAM AXS derailleur from eBay some months back, very quickly I noticed there was intermittent power issues. Eventually it stopped connecting and it appeared to be the little pins (pogo pins) not moving free enough.

I stripped it down and ordered 100 pins from Amazon, a friend who has the skills soldered the new pins (very tricky due to size) and it’s now working like new.

If anyone needs to do this fix please contact me and will happily post some pogo pins for the cost of a stamp.

View attachment 132255
Hi, hope alls well. Wondering if you had any pins left? Cheers
 
Done 20 miles yesterday and the new battery has appeared to have fixed the issue. No disconnects or miss shift. Performed flawlessly. Also I have started to take the battery out when not in use.
 
Probably my last update.

The 4.5mm and 5.0mm pogo pins were delivered today.

I replaced the longer one with OEM length which is 4.5mm.

Working OK without pressure on the battery clamp.

DSC_0014.webp
 
Hi Woodyboy, do u have any of these Pogo pins left to post? I've had the same problem 🙄 and need one but would be good to have a couple for spares too. Happy to give u something for them.
 
Keep reading
    Browse all

    Community Stats

    Since 2018
    671K
    Messages
    41,236
    Members
    Join 30,000+ Riders, it's free!
    Back
    Top