ptkatoomer
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I find these 2 "classifications " confusing. How would you describe the differences between the two?
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Scott Patron 920 2024 (170/170) - Trail or enduro classification?
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@ptkatoomer, fair question, and the lines have blurred so much in recent years that the marketing departments themselves seem confused half the time.
The short version: all-mountain (sometimes called "trail" in eMTB land) typically sits around 140-160mm of travel, with geometry that's a touch steeper and more balanced between climbing and descending. Enduro pushes to 160-180mm, slackens the head angle, and generally prioritises getting down the hill at speed, with climbing ability treated as a necessary evil rather than a design priority.
In practice, for eMTBs the distinction matters less than it does on analogue bikes, because the motor handles the climbing penalty that longer travel and slack geometry would normally impose. That said, there are still real differences in how they ride. An all-mountain bike like your Decoy (160mm travel, relatively moderate geometry for its class) is going to feel more nimble on twisty singletrack and more composed on longer pedally rides. A full enduro rig, something like the Giant Reign E+ with its 180mm front / 170mm rear travel, or the Forestal e-Siryon v2 at 170/174mm, will soak up bigger hits and feel more planted at speed, but can feel like you're steering a narrowboat through tight switchbacks.
Given you're riding out of Ramona, CA, where the terrain tends towards rocky, fast, and open rather than tight and technical, you could honestly go either way. Your Decoy is already sitting right on the border between the two categories. If you're eyeing something new and finding yourself wanting more confidence on the rougher descents, the enduro category makes sense. If your current bike feels good on the downs and you just want a bit more range or agility, staying in the all-mountain space is perfectly rational.
The honest truth is that "all-mountain" and "enduro" are more of a spectrum than a hard boundary, and most modern eMTBs in the 160mm range could be marketed as either depending on which catalogue you're reading.
EDIT: Removed an erroneous reference to the Scott Patron eRIDE — I had the travel figures wrong and that bike wasn't even relevant to the point I was making, so I've cut it rather than muddy the waters further. Thanks @MakaSznPL for the heads up.
The short version: all-mountain (sometimes called "trail" in eMTB land) typically sits around 140-160mm of travel, with geometry that's a touch steeper and more balanced between climbing and descending. Enduro pushes to 160-180mm, slackens the head angle, and generally prioritises getting down the hill at speed, with climbing ability treated as a necessary evil rather than a design priority.
In practice, for eMTBs the distinction matters less than it does on analogue bikes, because the motor handles the climbing penalty that longer travel and slack geometry would normally impose. That said, there are still real differences in how they ride. An all-mountain bike like your Decoy (160mm travel, relatively moderate geometry for its class) is going to feel more nimble on twisty singletrack and more composed on longer pedally rides. A full enduro rig, something like the Giant Reign E+ with its 180mm front / 170mm rear travel, or the Forestal e-Siryon v2 at 170/174mm, will soak up bigger hits and feel more planted at speed, but can feel like you're steering a narrowboat through tight switchbacks.
Given you're riding out of Ramona, CA, where the terrain tends towards rocky, fast, and open rather than tight and technical, you could honestly go either way. Your Decoy is already sitting right on the border between the two categories. If you're eyeing something new and finding yourself wanting more confidence on the rougher descents, the enduro category makes sense. If your current bike feels good on the downs and you just want a bit more range or agility, staying in the all-mountain space is perfectly rational.
The honest truth is that "all-mountain" and "enduro" are more of a spectrum than a hard boundary, and most modern eMTBs in the 160mm range could be marketed as either depending on which catalogue you're reading.
EDIT: Removed an erroneous reference to the Scott Patron eRIDE — I had the travel figures wrong and that bike wasn't even relevant to the point I was making, so I've cut it rather than muddy the waters further. Thanks @MakaSznPL for the heads up.
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Good info to work with.
One important note for @MakaSznPL: the 2024 Patron eRIDE 920 actually has
160/160mm suspension travel, not 170/170mm - let me address that and give you a proper answer.
@MakaSznPL - quick heads up on the travel first: the 2024 Scott Patron eRIDE 920 is a full-suspension alloy eMTB with 160mm front and rear travel, not 170/170.
That's worth knowing because it affects how it categorises.
Patron ST ("Super Trail") variant.
Category? The Patron eRIDE range splits into two flavours: the 900-series has 150mm suspension front and rear, while the Patron ST gets the 170mm fork.
The standard 920 with 160/160mm sits firmly in the trail/enduro crossover bracket - more capable than a pure all-mountain bike, but a step below a dedicated enduro machine.
Scott themselves describe it as built for all-day trail riding.
It's praised for futuristic design, efficient pedalling, and the Bosch CX motor, though it draws some criticism for tall-and-short geometry and rear suspension that can lack mid-stroke support.
Think of it as a trail bike that leans enduro - not an out-and-out enduro rig.
Jump height practical limits?
The Patron 920 isn't a dedicated jump bike, but it's certainly not fragile.
With 160mm of travel, alloy frame, and 29in wheels at 26+ kg, it'll handle trail-side features, small drops, and rollable jumps without drama.
Realistically: tabletops and lips up to around
1 - 1.5m height are well within its comfort zone with good technique.
Bigger sends (>2m) are possible but you're pushing into territory where the geometry (more on that below) and the somewhat blunt frame feel start working against you.
It's not a bike that'll punish you for jumping, but it won't reward style points on a full-on bike park kicker either.
Geometry - Size M The full per-size geometry for the 2024 Patron 920 isn't in our verified database (that's the 2025/2026 Patron ST we have confirmed figures for), and my searches didn't return the official 2024 geo table per size.
I can confirm the general character: reviewers flag the Patron's geometry as running tall and short - meaning a relatively high stack and conservative reach for the price point.
That means in Medium you're likely on a bike that feels more upright than modern enduro rivals, which works well for climbing but can feel a little less planted on fast, steep descents.
To get the exact Medium geometry numbers (reach, stack, head angle, etc.), I'd point you directly to the Scott spec sheet: Scott Patron 920 official page - they publish the full geo table there and it's the authoritative source.
Key hardware points on the 920:
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Frame:
Alloy Scale frame with Virtual 4-link kinematic suspension
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Fork/shock:
RockShox Domain Air fork and FOX Float EVOL eRIDE trunnion shock, both 160mm
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Motor/battery:
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TwinLoc 2:</B> lets you adjust suspension modes on the fly to match different trail conditions - genuinely useful on mixed terrain
Solid all-rounder.
If you wanted more descending capability without changing bikes entirely, the Patron ST with the 170mm fork is the obvious upgrade path within the same family.
MakaSznPL
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Reply again having in mind I have model year 2024: https://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/product/scott-patron-eride-920-blue-bike
@MakaSznPL - cheers for linking the official page, that's the right place to go.
So, confirmed from the Scott product page: the 2024 Patron eRIDE 920 is
160mm front and rear (RockShox Domain Air fork, FOX Float EVOL eRIDE shock).
Your original post said 170/170 - that's the Patron ST variant, not the 920.
Worth knowing, as it affects where it sits categorically.
Category: Trail/Enduro crossover With 160/160mm travel, 29in wheels, Bosch Performance CX motor, and Virtual 4-Link kinematics, the 920 sits comfortably in the trail-enduro crossover bracket.
It's marketed as an all-day trail machine rather than a dedicated enduro rig - capable and confident on technical terrain, but it won't feel at home on a full enduro race stage.
Think "aggressive trail bike" rather than "enduro weapon".
Practical comfort zone is
tabletops and lips up to around 1 - 1.5m with decent technique.
Beyond that, the geometry and weight start working against you - it's not fragile, but it's not rewarding bigger sends either.
Geometry - Size M The official Scott page is your best source for the exact per-size numbers (reach, stack, head angle etc.) - I can't confirm the precise Medium figures from verified data, and I'd rather point you to the source than give you a number I can't stand behind.
What reviewers consistently flag: the Patron runs tall stack, conservative reach for its price bracket - good for climbing posture, slightly less planted feeling on fast steep descents compared to more progressive enduro-focused geometry.
For the exact geo table, the Scott spec sheet at the page you linked is the authoritative source.
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