Orbea x Avinox Rumours

[killerade]

I asked Google Gemini to search for leaked images and got this

There are currently no genuine leaked images of a 2027 Orbea Wild featuring an Avinox motor.

The internet is full of intense speculation regarding this bike, but here is what is actually going on behind the scenes:

The Source of the Rumors​

The massive buzz about an "Avinox-powered Wild" stems from a mix of industry timing and aggressive community wish-lists. Avinox recently doubled down on its eMTB dominance by shifting its name from "DJI Avinox" to just Avinox and revealing its monstrous new M2 and M2S motors (pushing up to 150Nm of torque and 1,500W peak power).

Because the current Orbea Wild is heavily praised for its handling but uses the more conservative Bosch Performance Line CX system, massive forum chatter on Reddit and core eMTB sites has projected that Orbea will inevitably look to Avinox to break past Bosch's power ceiling. Rumors suggest Orbea might borrow the sleek, low-slung shock design language from their traditional enduro bike, the Rallon, to neatly house the slim Avinox battery ecosystem.

Watch Out for Concept Art & Clickbait​

Any "leaked images" floating around on YouTube thumbnails or sketchy forum threads right now are highly likely to be artificial intelligence renders, Photoshop mashups of the Orbea Rallon, or images of other newly announced Avinox bikes. Since Avinox launched the M2 series, a wave of boutique brands (like Mondraker's new Zendit, Pivot's Shuttle AMP'd, and Rotwild's R. EXC) have revealed their builds. Scammers often use cropped photos of these real bikes to bait clicks for a fake Orbea leak.

Until an actual prototype is spotted in the wild or an official media embargo breaks, any image claiming to be the 2027 Avinox Orbea is a fake.

So wrong

 

[Suns_PSD]

Kind of like this...

It'll probably run on a Can bus too meaning dropper, electronic shock and shifting are all 'on the network'.

It'll likely be lighter than most other M2s offerings, but with good dropper insertion something Crestie, Amflow & Mondraker can't compete on.

What really adds to the looks compared to my '26 Wild, is that the motor is smaller/ lower, therefore the rear shock is lower, which then allows them to dramatically slope the toptube downward.

I don't have much time on it do to injury but that Wild, is 'goated'. It's just such a sweet handling bike. All Orbea has to do is not f**k that up and it'll be dope.

 

[FJ836]

Since I am riding a 2026 Rallon it would be just funny to own two nearly twin looking bikes, but I hope Orbea will make a ST Option like with the actual Wild.

The Rallon is a super fun and agile (Short Chainstay and Mullet Setup) Bike for it´s travel numbers, but would be still way to much travel for my intended use of an e-Bike.
So a light 150/160mm Allmountain Build (Float x and 36 Fork) with sub 22 or even 21kg would be nice. At the moment the Pivot AMP´d would be my favorite Avinox Bike but not for the price Pivot is asking for it.

What I'm really dreaming of for years now is a Rise LT with a possible TQ 80/90 Motorsystem and sub 20kg.

 

[Fugu]

I'd be really shocked to see an updated Bosch model, but I could be wrong.

We know that there will be a new Avinox intended as a Super enduro, 170/ 180 travel. The Mahle rumor, pretty sure that isn't a thing. But then plans change.

It's questionable whether or not Orbea will continue to sell the old Bosch Wild, or some new Bosch variant. Maybe as their more 'All Mountain' bike.

Have to wonder if the Bosch variant will stay around for racing? Or is the Avinox allowed under those EU regulations?

 

[FJ836]

Have to wonder if the Bosch variant will stay around for racing? Or is the Avinox allowed under those EU regulations?

Seems like there still will be a Bosch Version .... and Avinox has a Programm to limit the M2s permanently to the UCI regulations.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Avinox has a race spec M2S motor.

 

[FJ836]

Avinox has a race spec M2S motor.

Seems like every M2s can get that race spec, but once you did the update there is no way back to the original spec.

 

[Rando_12345]

Effectively Pro racers can get the race (de)tuned motor, but I expect the average amateur race to have plenty of 1500W, speed limiter removed geniuses participating

 

[Frankyspec]

Effectively Pro racers can get the race (de)tuned motor, but I expect the average amateur race to have plenty of 1500W, speed limiter removed geniuses participating

Kind of like this...

It'll probably run on a Can bus too meaning dropper, electronic shock and shifting are all 'on the network'.

It'll likely be lighter than most other M2s offerings, but with good dropper insertion something Crestie, Amflow & Mondraker can't compete on.

What really adds to the looks compared to my '26 Wild, is that the motor is smaller/ lower, therefore the rear shock is lower, which then allows them to dramatically slope the toptube downward.

I don't have much time on it do to injury but that Wild, is 'goated'. It's just such a sweet handling bike. All Orbea has to do is not f**k that up and it'll be dope.

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I had info today and picture is correct, I was in between Amflow px Carbon pro, Mondraker Zendit, but now probably new wild. For budget of 10K Carbon wheels, Fox 38 Kashima 180/170, electronic dropper and electronic rear suspension, mullet.But GX transmission with XO cranks and 34 chainring. Don’t know the weight yet. Optional Fox Podium, charger 12A, myo configurator.

 

[Suns_PSD]

The electronic rear suspension (and dropper) are really hot. You can have a low anti-squat rear suspension that feels like a DH bike, yet firms right up when pedaling. Brilliant!

I wonder if it's an Orbea branded electronic dropper?

That said, my '26 Wild on a coil shock is already the most brilliant rear suspension I have ever felt, and by quite a large margin too. It does all of the things very well.

 

[Roaming50]

180/170? I'm thinking this might be too much bike for my needs. I was looking for 170/160 bike at the top end for more of an back country adventure rig but one that can still handle big vert days.

I might still end up on a TQ based bike though, but Orbea's integration is calling....

 

[Suns_PSD]

180/170? I'm thinking this might be too much bike for my needs. I was looking for 170/160 bike at the top end for more of an back country adventure rig but one that can still handle big vert days.

I might still end up on a TQ based bike though, but Orbea's integration is calling....

It's going to be a Super-enduro bike, yah 170/ 180.

I've never ridden a bike that large, but agree it seems like a LOT for most applications.

Maybe the Wild ST (Short Travel) will also be an option?

 

[Frankyspec]

The electronic rear suspension (and dropper) are really hot. You can have a low anti-squat rear suspension that feels like a DH bike, yet firms right up when pedaling. Brilliant!

I wonder if it's an Orbea branded electronic dropper?

That said, my '26 Wild on a coil shock is already the most brilliant rear suspension I have ever felt, and by quite a large margin too. It does all of the things very well.

Yes it’s the Orbea branded dropper.

 

[James_MTB]

I had info today and picture is correct, I was in between Amflow px Carbon pro, Mondraker Zendit, but now probably new wild. For budget of 10K Carbon wheels, Fox 38 Kashima 180/170, electronic dropper and electronic rear suspension, mullet.But GX transmission with XO cranks and 34 chainring. Don’t know the weight yet. Optional Fox Podium, charger 12A, myo configurator.

Do you have the geo numbers?

 

[Frankyspec]

Do you have the geo numbers?

Sorry, no more info at this moment

 

[Imanol]

Hoy recibí información y la imagen es correcta. Estaba entre Amflow px Carbon pro y Mondraker Zendit, pero ahora probablemente me decida por la nueva Wild. Con un presupuesto de 10.000, ruedas de carbono, Fox 38 Kashima 180/170, tija telescópica electrónica y suspensión trasera electrónica, configuración mullet. Transmisión GX con bielas XO y plato de 34 dientes. Aún no sé el peso. Opcionalmente, Fox Podium, cargador de 12 A y configurador myo.

700wh or 800wh?

 

[Suns_PSD]

Apparently, they are only offering the 600 or 800.

No one needs sustained 1500w on an e-bike, but I do happen to think that 700wh is a really ideal battery size for a lot of consumers and it's also the lightest weight per watt configuration.

 

[FJ836]

I hope for a Trail/Allmountain with 150mm in the back, Float X/36 Fork, a 600wh Battery and around 21/22kg.

Should be enough to do around 1500 to 1800 vertical meters when going with 60-70Nm/350-400w … that would be perfect for my hometrails.

 

[Bikerson]

I hope for a Trail/Allmountain with 150mm in the back, Float X/36 Fork, a 600wh Battery and around 21/22kg.

Should be enough to do around 1500 to 1800 vertical meters when going with 60-70Nm/350-400w … that would be perfect for my hometrails.

In that configuration (Trail/Allmountain with 150mm in the back, Float X/36 Fork, and 600wh Battery), it should be near to 20kg.

 

[FJ836]

In that configuration (Trail/Allmountain with 150mm in the back, Float X/36 Fork, and 600wh Battery), it should be near to 20kg.

That would be even better, but considering that the mid Tier Yeti Mte with a Tq60 and 580wh battery I tested last year was well over 21kg I think thats more realistic.

 

[Suns_PSD]

My L Wild 600wh with dual coil suspension, dual DH tires & wheels + electronic dropper and shifting, only weighs 22.2 kgs with pedals.

The current Bosch Wild could weigh 20.5 kgs easily in a high-end trail build with mechanical shifting and dropper. It would be fun to weight weenie my Wild, but then it wouldn't do what I like it to do.

The new one is going to weigh more for a few reasons:
The 180mm fork, you have to have a 38mm fork
The electronic shock, the Canbus, the electronic dropper.
I run an 11speed (saves significant weight) but it's going to have integrated electronic shifting, which while dope (I'd love to have it) it'll weigh more.
Heck even the frame cable routing will add a few grams.
The Avinox motor also needs bash ring protection. So, either the frame has to be built up down low, similar to the thick gal Rogue, or you need to add a 250 gram E13 bashguard.
Also, if you have a 1500watt motor, you better just order the 800wh battery.

Weight just really isn't a place where bikes 'improve' as they become more capable. The new Amflow, the original lightweight full power, now weighs a kg more than the outgoing model. That might not seem like progress, but in reality, the original was flexy, short, not considered durable, etc. where-as the new one is pretty sick.

The new Wild will weigh more.

 

[Roaming50]

I'm out of this thread now. I just did a 180 and I'm not waiting to see what the next batch of bikes are like. I just ordered a Trek Fuel+EX 9.7 which'll match my Lauf eElja for TQ system. Trek is local to me so local support will be nice. I'll strip the EX down to bare bones and transfer a lot of nice kit from my Orbea Rise onto that bike along with brand new 2027 160mm Lyrik and Vivid Air (this'll give me a 160/156mm bikes).

I'm sure the new Wild will be nice but I fear it is too much bike for my needs and it'll probably be another year before the next-gen Rise comes out.

 

[oettam20]

Reading this information, it seems that the new “Wild” will be an Orbea replica of the Zendit.
What are the main conceptual and physical differences between the two bikes?
Just he 750watt limit? Anyway I think the limit will be set just in Profile 1 of the two...

 

[FJ836]

Reading this information, it seems that the new “Wild” will be an Orbea replica of the Zendit.
What are the main conceptual and physical differences between the two bikes?
Just he 750watt limit? Anyway I think the limit will be set just in Profile 1 of the two...

So when you think the 180/170mm Travel Numbers are making it a replica of another bike ... there are a lot of copies of copies out there.

I´m pretty sure the Zendit and new Wild will be really different bikes to ride (at least when I look on my experiences with Orbea and Moondraker Bikes). The Geometry and Kinematic Numbers will be different and I´ m pretty sure Orbea will give the Wild a bunch more of Options for Part Specs and maybe even a Trail Version with less Travel.

If the character and the setup Options of Wild will be close to the Rallon 2026 (I´m riding one since a month) you get a really versatile Bike depending on your setup that covers the ground from really agile and fun (for a big Enduro) (Mullet, High Flipchip, Neutral Headangle, Airshock) to absolute stable and plowing (for a Enduro), eating the hardest of trails with ease (Full 29", Low Flipchip, Slack Headangle, Coil Shock).

And where did you read something about a 750W limit (that's only the Race Version of the M2s)!?

 

[oettam20]

So when you think the 180/170mm Travel Numbers are making it a replica of another bike ... there are a lot of copies of copies out there.

I´m pretty sure the Zendit and new Wild will be really different bikes to ride (at least when I look on my experiences with Orbea and Moondraker Bikes). The Geometry and Kinematic Numbers will be different and I´ m pretty sure Orbea will give the Wild a bunch more of Options for Part Specs and maybe even a Trail Version with less Travel.

If the character and the setup Options of Wild will be close to the Rallon 2026 (Im riding one since a month) you get a really versatile Bike depending on your setup that covers the ground from really agile and fun (for a bike Enduro) (Mullet, High Flipchip, Neutral Headangle, Airshock) to absolute stable and plowing (for a Enduro), eating the hardest of trails with ease (Full 29", Low Flipchip, Slack Headangle).

And where did you read something about a 750W limit (that's only the Race Version of the M2s)!?

I used the word “replica” improperly — what I actually meant was an alternative to Mindfaker within the exact same market segment and usage range. Absolutely not a copy, especially since I currently consider Orbea one of the most innovative companies and one of those setting new trends in the market.

On another forum, people were discussing the 750-watt limit, which in my opinion will probably be applied only to one of the two profiles selectable through Orbea’s proprietary handlebar control.

 

[Rando_12345]

So without breaking any embargoes, is there any new tech beyond the known avinox stuff that made Orbea wait 2 months to announce their bikes after the M2S embargo? We were hoping it was battery tech, but that seems very unlikely now.

 

[Suns_PSD]

So without breaking any embargoes, is there any new tech beyond the known avinox stuff that made Orbea wait 2 months to announce their bikes after the M2S embargo? We were hoping it was battery tech, but that seems very unlikely now.

I think the difference is that the same week the new Orbea is announced, you'll be able to submit an actual order online to put in the production cue.

As far as new tech? It'll be the most advanced mountain bike ever made, if you are into electronics. Seriously, it'll have the 'top' motor, smart shock, hard wired shifting and dropper all on a canbus, at least on the $15K version.

I have not ridden every bike, certainly not all set up for me. But after riding my own Wild I'm now a HUGE fan of the brand. Transition has been my go-to brand for some years now (4 in a row) but Orbea has now taken that spot by a comfortable margin. Every time I ride it, I just can't believe how sweet that bike is. I'll be needing an updated trail bike (non e-bike) to replace my '23 Smuggler soon and Orbea will be my first consideration without doubt.

 

[en56]

I do wish they made a shorter travel Rallon non-e-bike . Something with the Occam LT numbers . Would buy that for my normal bike

 

[FJ836]

I do wish they made a shorter travel Rallon non-e-bike . Something with the Occam LT numbers . Would buy that for my normal bike

So why no Occam LT then?!

 

[Bikerson]

Yesterday I saw the new Wild (on a screen) and I can say without a doubt that it will be IMHO, the most beautiful Avinox electric bike. Very similar to the Rallon RS.

Prices and build options will follow current trends with the possibility of upgrading the base build of each model as before, and the MyO program will be expanded with a wider range of colors.

You'll be able to choose between an 800Wh or 600Wh battery and a full 29" or mullet wheelset as current ones

I think it will undoubtedly be a bestseller again.