New tyres
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Loamranger
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Personally I like DH22’s both ends all year round.
A friend with the same ebike (KSL) is trying out the Magic Mary Radial on the front and likes them. But another friend with the same bike didn’t like them at all.
Another rider I know who is sponsored by Specialized runs Specialized Hill Billy T9 front and Cannibal rear. Should be a good combo.
A friend with the same ebike (KSL) is trying out the Magic Mary Radial on the front and likes them. But another friend with the same bike didn’t like them at all.
Another rider I know who is sponsored by Specialized runs Specialized Hill Billy T9 front and Cannibal rear. Should be a good combo.
That's crazy talk. Ran them on DH bike but they were the slowest rolling tyre ever created
Loamranger
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I’m ok with their roll and only have 35Nm at my disposal. Of course there are faster rolling tyres out there but they don’t grip as well. One can run low pressures with these tyres for great grip and comfort.
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I currently have specialized butchers on but the tred in the middle is a tad bald and the back end seems to slid when on trails. Looking for something with good grip. I will have a look at the DH22s
Look at the rest of the bikes around your riding area, we don't know your terrain, style, abilities etc.
Its like asking what's the best beer or flat or clipped pedals, everyone will have an opinion.
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Makes sense. Haha I would if I could see them its muddy as anything here... thats all I'm after is people's opinions on what they think is best to give myself a idea as I'm new to this
bmwpowere36m3
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Best? What's currently installed and what do you like and don't like... there's no best. Best would be a non-flatting, super light, super grippy, cheap tire... 
Montana St Alum
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"Muddy as anything" is a pretty important detail for giving advice. Anything else?
I was going to advise against Magic Mary, as the longer and relatively unsupported knobs, HERE IN THE DESERT of Utah don't work well.
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Now the desert sounds great hahah. Muddy rocky rooty
maybe less specific but my suggested guide for choosing.
1. Usually it is best to consider requirements for front and rear tyre separately. The front needs a tread pattern that holds corners well and that invariably means large aggressive shoulder knobs. Some front tyres have a continuous channel with no knobs between the centre knobs and corner knobs. That means you need to lean the bike quite agrresively onto those corner knobs in a corner to a void sideways slip if you only lean the bike into that open channel. As long as you are confident to do that a channeld tyre is not an issue. If not look for a tyre with some centre knobs spaced more towards the corner knobs. The rear needs to provide good traction both in acceleration and braking so widely spaced and fairly large centre knobs do that.
2. If conditions are generally soft and muddy many tread pattern designs will clog with mud and end up as slicks! The way to a void that is to choose a tyre with a tread pattern that has good gaps between the knobs...that applies to both front and rear tyres.
3. Tyre casing needs to be matched to trail conditions. Rocky terrain needs a sturdier casing with more protection. Soft and sloppy conditions less so. For example, in the Maxxis range, the lowest casing standard I would use on an EMTB is EXO+and that is sufficient for virtually anything other than very rocky terrain on the front wheel. I usally use Double Down on the rear tyre but again on soft ground EXO+ will do.
4. Tyre compound choice is invariably a compromise between grip and wear rate. The softer the compound the more grip but really only noticeable on wet rock and roots etc. I think most emtb riders choose to use the softer compund on the front wheel and harder compound on the rear.
5. Lastly there is the issue of rolling resistance. The more a ggressive the tread pattern and the softer the compound the slower the tyre is likely to roll. If most of you riding is blasting downhill that largely becomes less important but if you are covering fairly large distances on level or gently sloping ground it will result in more battery use or harder work.
All you have to do now is check out the description on various tyres offered for sale.
As a starter, my rides a re in forests or cross country ( south coast UK) There are very few rocky sections in either type of ride but lots of wet slop and copious amounts fo leaf cover etc over stony ( not rocky) trail bases. I fit either Spesh hillbilly or Maxxis Shortie on the rear tyres of all my bikes for winter riding....and I go for DD ( Maxxis) or Gravity ( Spesh). For front tyres I use either Maxxis DHF EXO+ or Michelin Enduro front.
1. Usually it is best to consider requirements for front and rear tyre separately. The front needs a tread pattern that holds corners well and that invariably means large aggressive shoulder knobs. Some front tyres have a continuous channel with no knobs between the centre knobs and corner knobs. That means you need to lean the bike quite agrresively onto those corner knobs in a corner to a void sideways slip if you only lean the bike into that open channel. As long as you are confident to do that a channeld tyre is not an issue. If not look for a tyre with some centre knobs spaced more towards the corner knobs. The rear needs to provide good traction both in acceleration and braking so widely spaced and fairly large centre knobs do that.
2. If conditions are generally soft and muddy many tread pattern designs will clog with mud and end up as slicks! The way to a void that is to choose a tyre with a tread pattern that has good gaps between the knobs...that applies to both front and rear tyres.
3. Tyre casing needs to be matched to trail conditions. Rocky terrain needs a sturdier casing with more protection. Soft and sloppy conditions less so. For example, in the Maxxis range, the lowest casing standard I would use on an EMTB is EXO+and that is sufficient for virtually anything other than very rocky terrain on the front wheel. I usally use Double Down on the rear tyre but again on soft ground EXO+ will do.
4. Tyre compound choice is invariably a compromise between grip and wear rate. The softer the compound the more grip but really only noticeable on wet rock and roots etc. I think most emtb riders choose to use the softer compund on the front wheel and harder compound on the rear.
5. Lastly there is the issue of rolling resistance. The more a ggressive the tread pattern and the softer the compound the slower the tyre is likely to roll. If most of you riding is blasting downhill that largely becomes less important but if you are covering fairly large distances on level or gently sloping ground it will result in more battery use or harder work.
All you have to do now is check out the description on various tyres offered for sale.
As a starter, my rides a re in forests or cross country ( south coast UK) There are very few rocky sections in either type of ride but lots of wet slop and copious amounts fo leaf cover etc over stony ( not rocky) trail bases. I fit either Spesh hillbilly or Maxxis Shortie on the rear tyres of all my bikes for winter riding....and I go for DD ( Maxxis) or Gravity ( Spesh). For front tyres I use either Maxxis DHF EXO+ or Michelin Enduro front.
Same for us, also south coast UK mainly on South Downs, with slippery rooty stuff chucked in for good measure. Had too many punctures with Maxxis Exo/Exo+ but since switching to Maxxis DD have had no show stopping punctures. This winter will fit front slightly worn Schwalbe Super Gravity Magic Mary (non radial) with rear Maxxis Shorty Gen 2 DD. Don't care what the bike rolls like as long as have front grip and no show stopping punctures.
OCMtn-Surfer
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I queried ChatGPT on this subject a few months back, including bike info, my weight and riding style, and most importantly, the locality where i ride the most often.
I was truly blown away by the level of detail and additional questions that were provided; took the advice given and am completely satisfied.
And that led to even more questions later on including things like recommendations for tire pressure based on specific trails and routes.
jeffers-emtbb
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Interesting takes, thanks for your detail.
I ride Sth downs quite a lot, flint (sharp as feck) has done 2 sidewalls on non side cased tyres, Maxxis and Schwalbe. Went for gravity casing radial to reduce the tear factor and a super sport trainer for the front. Early days but cushioning and grip so far a great… I weigh 76 kgs. Levo gen 3.
I'm 76kg riding weight on a 2022 alloy Rail.
Amber Valley Guy
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Do you ride to the trails or drive and then ride? Two totally different scenarios, one has to take in roads and lanes, the other doesn't. One needs a jack of all trades, the other a tyre to suit your needs. I'm lucky (or unfortunate) my trails are not far away, a few miles , and I need a tyre ( tire) that'll do both without bankrupting me. So it's why I'm on a Vitoria e-Mazza front and a Michelin e-Wild rear. Works for me, probably not the best, but affordable and works well.
jeffers-emtbb
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Auto correct running riot.
Front is Schalbe super soft trail with radial casing.
ozzybmx
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Just got a new set of faves, I've done just about every set of decent tyres available, all the Maxxis, Schwalbe Radials, Contis, Vittoria... etc...
Very partial to Vittoria on other bikes, ran the Conti Kryptotals and Argotals with the DH casing in supersoft, wasn't overly impressed.
Grabbed the newish released (first time I could order) Kryptotal Enduro Supersoft-F with a Krypto Soft-R... so much nicer, the rigid casing of the DH was dead, now got a bit of cush, flex and grip.
Reckon this is now my fave combo.
Very partial to Vittoria on other bikes, ran the Conti Kryptotals and Argotals with the DH casing in supersoft, wasn't overly impressed.
Grabbed the newish released (first time I could order) Kryptotal Enduro Supersoft-F with a Krypto Soft-R... so much nicer, the rigid casing of the DH was dead, now got a bit of cush, flex and grip.
Reckon this is now my fave combo.
I switch a month ago from assegai/dhr2 towards schwalbe radial shredda for winter, mud, rain and damn this is a huge game changer on loose conditions.
On forest tight steep DH, I have way more control on drift and avoid seeing my rear wheel in front of me!
I was scared of the Gravity Pro casing but zero issue or bad feeling on my SL emtb.
On forest tight steep DH, I have way more control on drift and avoid seeing my rear wheel in front of me!
I was scared of the Gravity Pro casing but zero issue or bad feeling on my SL emtb.
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Loamranger
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Does anyone have experience of the new Specialized radials?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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