Roaming50
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Recently I bought my first TQ based bike (a Lauf eElja) as a shorter travel XC orientated bike. I also intend to get a longer travel all-mountain/enduro machine to balance out my riding needs and then sell my Orbea Rise. I was tempted with the Trek Slash+ 9.7 which is on sale, but I really would like a more powerful motor for this style of bike but not something noisy like the Bosch or Avinox. So I'd love a stronger TQ or the Maxon Air A (but that will probably never make it to the USA). I've been hearing rumors of a TQ HPR90 (or even a 100), though I would believe the 90 over the 100...
So I started looking. Now this is just pure speculation on my part, but I'm thinking a more powerful motor might be released in June or July....
Ignoring the HPR120 (which is a different beast), the original HPR50 was launched in September 2022, quickly followed by the Trek EXE.
Fast forward to last year and the HPR60 and HPR40 and 40X were announced in June (at Eurobike). At the same time on the HPR60 front, The Yeti MTe, Norco Sight VLT TQ where annouced. The Trek Slash+ which was HPR50 based was transitioned to HPR60. The Trek Fuel+ was launched a couple months later in August 7.
Now I have been looking at these bikes,
Yeti MTe - still available at dealers in very limited quanties.
Norco Slight VLT TQ - most models listed as sold out with no restocking date in mind. I've read on another forum tha Norco is saying that they have no knowledge if it'll be restocked.
Trek Fuel+ - completely sold out with new availability being around August 5-8th. That is precisely when the first gen was announced.
Trek Slash+ - They're all on sale as if Trek is trying to clear out stock before something new comes along.
Companies that appear to have plenty of availability are Propain and smaller companies like Lauf - who just launched a new model.
On a TQ youtube video I commented that now they need to release a HPR80 (when I thought the next one may go up to 80) and I go a but heart from TQ on my post.
So here's my theory. TQ Announces a new higher power TQ motor that is a plug-in replacement for the current 60 in June (againt at Eurobike). The Trek bikes will come back into stock with the HPR90. The Norco Sight VLT is relaunched with the new motor.
My TOTAL GUESS is that the motor will be like the HPR60 size and in day to day operation but with a super boost mode that can run up o 90nm and 450w power, still with 200% assist. It would be nice if they could go to 300% assist but I don't think it'll happen - not in the same size. It would be as quiet as the current motor with the same natural feel, just a bit stronger.
It would be nice if the battery tech was upgraded, at least from a fast charge perspective and if the existing range extenders worked with the new motor. This last past is total speculation and wishfull thinking.
So what do you think? Might I be on the right timeline?
So I started looking. Now this is just pure speculation on my part, but I'm thinking a more powerful motor might be released in June or July....
Ignoring the HPR120 (which is a different beast), the original HPR50 was launched in September 2022, quickly followed by the Trek EXE.
Fast forward to last year and the HPR60 and HPR40 and 40X were announced in June (at Eurobike). At the same time on the HPR60 front, The Yeti MTe, Norco Sight VLT TQ where annouced. The Trek Slash+ which was HPR50 based was transitioned to HPR60. The Trek Fuel+ was launched a couple months later in August 7.
Now I have been looking at these bikes,
Yeti MTe - still available at dealers in very limited quanties.
Norco Slight VLT TQ - most models listed as sold out with no restocking date in mind. I've read on another forum tha Norco is saying that they have no knowledge if it'll be restocked.
Trek Fuel+ - completely sold out with new availability being around August 5-8th. That is precisely when the first gen was announced.
Trek Slash+ - They're all on sale as if Trek is trying to clear out stock before something new comes along.
Companies that appear to have plenty of availability are Propain and smaller companies like Lauf - who just launched a new model.
On a TQ youtube video I commented that now they need to release a HPR80 (when I thought the next one may go up to 80) and I go a but heart from TQ on my post.
So here's my theory. TQ Announces a new higher power TQ motor that is a plug-in replacement for the current 60 in June (againt at Eurobike). The Trek bikes will come back into stock with the HPR90. The Norco Sight VLT is relaunched with the new motor.
My TOTAL GUESS is that the motor will be like the HPR60 size and in day to day operation but with a super boost mode that can run up o 90nm and 450w power, still with 200% assist. It would be nice if they could go to 300% assist but I don't think it'll happen - not in the same size. It would be as quiet as the current motor with the same natural feel, just a bit stronger.
It would be nice if the battery tech was upgraded, at least from a fast charge perspective and if the existing range extenders worked with the new motor. This last past is total speculation and wishfull thinking.
So what do you think? Might I be on the right timeline?
Even with the existing 580Wh battery that would still allow a bike like my Fuel+ to keep a good range riding in Mid power mode, whilst allowing the extra oomph needed occasionally to get over a steep technical section.
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