raggertje
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Is this the Ludicrous V2 controller? Where did you get that? I would also like to ride my M600 on VESC
Does that work well?Markhor Kunlun M510 - 190mm - Super Enduro Build-Log
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Does that work well?
raggertje
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Yes it is Ludicrous V2. I ordered the parts on JLCPCB and soldered it. I tested it without frame only and it works. I do not know how it will work in the real world yet but according to the Luna advertisement this works better than Bafang controller.Is this the Ludicrous V2 controller? Where did you get that? I would also like to ride my M600 on VESC
You can order the controller and the cover on JLCPCB and solder it if you have tools (or order whole assembly from JLCPCB, but that is going to be expensive), it was open sourced
Luna M600 Ludicrous V2 reverse engineering and firmware making
The archive with the current versions of the files ( KiCAD (Version 9.0.0) motor controller files, firmware files, CAD files of the CNC machined and 3D printed custom parts, CAD files of the fasteners, Luna manuals collection, Gerber files) can be downloaded here (updated on 2025-10-08)...
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The Kunlun V2 brake mount post interferes with 3X3 nine gear hub torque arm so I milled the interference off. The new Bafang metal plate speed sensor also can not work with the 3x3 nine hub because of the speed sensor metal plate should be mounted on a standard rear disk brake interface and the 3x3 nine hub uses different disc brake interface. So I need to figure out the speed sensor too. I guess I need to use old style magnet speed sensor for VESC m600 anyway.
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The frame wrapping is complete and works great! If you want to replicate here are the files for cutting. These files are for Markhor Kunlun V2 size S1 frame. I do not know if they fit other Kunlun frame models or sizes
The material I used for wrapping is helicopter tape. I used this 8 mil thick 4" wide 12' long tape for laser cutting and the pieces are designed for cut from this tape.
I recommend to cut the pieces from 4" wide masking tape first and put each piece to see exactly where each piece goes and then remove the masking tape pieces one by one replacing it by actual helicopter tape to avoid possible interference.
The rear triangle in wrapped with rubber strips from bicycle wheel tubes instead of helicopter tape
The material I used for wrapping is helicopter tape. I used this 8 mil thick 4" wide 12' long tape for laser cutting and the pieces are designed for cut from this tape.
I recommend to cut the pieces from 4" wide masking tape first and put each piece to see exactly where each piece goes and then remove the masking tape pieces one by one replacing it by actual helicopter tape to avoid possible interference.
The rear triangle in wrapped with rubber strips from bicycle wheel tubes instead of helicopter tape
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E-MAD MALC
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Well done that man
Wish i could turn my hands to do those sort of thing
Wish i could turn my hands to do those sort of thing
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i dont post here much but my kunlun is still going strong
no problems except for the weaker 720wh battery. this in combination with the 195mm travel and uber tires makes the battery drain quickly
for some outings to quickly,
and i changed from display in frame to normal dpc245 as i broke the handlebar controller and that has a special cable , cannof source that one from ali hence i converted to dpc245
no problems except for the weaker 720wh battery. this in combination with the 195mm travel and uber tires makes the battery drain quickly
for some outings to quickly,
and i changed from display in frame to normal dpc245 as i broke the handlebar controller and that has a special cable , cannof source that one from ali hence i converted to dpc245
New 60A 60V 15000mAh 900Wh 3600W battery for Markhor Kunlun!
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Luna M600 Ludicrous V2 reverse engineering and firmware making
It looks like we have a situation guys! If I understand that VESC firmware architecture correct, Luna, or Marcos or whoever is responsible for the firmware did not release the firmware for the new version of the M600 controller (the one I have)! And the released VESC firmware is not compatible...
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In case of someone wants to hot rod Markhor Kunlun and build the custom 60V 60A battery to use it with the VESC for Bafang M600 or M560 controllers here are the CAD files with the battery case and the new seat post compartment cover parts designed for FDM 3D printing.
For the battery case parts I recommend to use glass filled nylon
For the seat post compartment cover you can use any material you like. I used PLA
This is 16S3P battery with 21700 cells.
I used Samsung 50S cells
www.18650batterystore.com
I used this JBD SP17S005 battery management system 60A with Li-ion 3.7V settings
jiabaida-bms.com
You can purchase it on Green Bike Kit website, here are the settings for the order
www.greenbikekit.com
The heat-set inserts are M6. You can purchase it here. Those inserts need to be shortened maybe 2 mm to fit properly
www.mcmaster.com
The battery mountings screws
www.mcmaster.com
The rubber washers for the battery mounting screws heads to protect the frame from scratches
www.mcmaster.com
The buss bar parts are cut out of the WELLGO 250A 21700 2P Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance copper-nickel sandwich bussbar
www.alibaba.com
The main power wires are 10 gauge silicone wires
The charging wires are 18 gauge silicone wires
The battery charger is Abakoo 67.2V 2A
The electrical insulating paper with adhesive layer
The Kapton tape assortment
MYJOR High Temperature Tape， 1 mil Kapton Tape, Polyimide Tape, Professional for Protecting CPU, PCB Circuit Board, 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1"- 4 Rolls，No Residue.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Pure nickel 0.2mm for the balancing wires tabs
Pure Nickel Strap-99.96% Nickel Strip for 18650 Battery Spot Welding Machine Welder Equipment - Amazon.com
150mm wire heat shrink PVC wrap
150mm(5.9in) Width PVC Heat Shrink Wrap Tube 18650 21700 26650 Lithium Battery DIY Battery Pack 3M(9.9ft) Length Blue: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Main power 80A fuse
80A fuse connectors
7.5A Charging fuse
Charging fuse holder
21700 Battery Insulator Rings
Charging port 5.5 x 2.1 mm for the seat post cover
Amazon.com: LUORNG 5Pcs 10A DC-099 Power Jack Cord Socket Threaded Female Mount Connector Adapter with Pre-soldered Wires and Waterproof Cover Cap, 5.5 x 2.1 MM : Tools & Home Improvement
BMS power button for the seat post cover 16mm Waterproof IP67 Metal Latching Push Button Switch
Amazon.com
The link with the battery build pictures process is posted in the previous post
For the battery case parts I recommend to use glass filled nylon
For the seat post compartment cover you can use any material you like. I used PLA
This is 16S3P battery with 21700 cells.
I used Samsung 50S cells
Samsung 50S 21700 5000mAh 25A Battery
Samsung 50S 21700—5000mAh, 25A high-drain power. Genuine cells, great price and fast US shipping. Is this the perfect pack cell for runtime + punch?! Shop.
www.18650batterystore.com
I used this JBD SP17S005 battery management system 60A with Li-ion 3.7V settings
Jiabaida SP17S005 Smart BMS 10S-17S Wiring Diagram
The SP17S005 supports automatic recognition of 10S-17S lithium iron phosphate or ternary lithium batteries, and has a wide range of continuous current options from 20A to 120A, meeting the needs of different customers. Here is its wiring diagram
jiabaida-bms.com
You can purchase it on Green Bike Kit website, here are the settings for the order
Smart BMS for 10S 11S 12S 13S 14S 15S 16S 17S 48V 52V 40A 60A 80A with small size with bluetooth software-Greenbikekit.com BBS, ebike batteries, Bafang M620, Bafang M600, Bafang M500, Bafang M510, KT controller with display-GreenBikeKit.com
Smart battery BMS for 10s, 11s, 12s, 13S 14S 15s, 16s, 17s, 48V 52V 80A 40A 20A 60A with small size/smart BMS software
www.greenbikekit.com
The heat-set inserts are M6. You can purchase it here. Those inserts need to be shortened maybe 2 mm to fit properly
McMaster-Carr
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The battery mountings screws
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
The rubber washers for the battery mounting screws heads to protect the frame from scratches
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
The buss bar parts are cut out of the WELLGO 250A 21700 2P Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance copper-nickel sandwich bussbar
Wellgo Wholesale Cheap Price 250a 21700 2p Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance Copper Insulated Rust-resistant Busbar - Buy Rust-resistant Copper Busbar 250a 2p 21700 Insulated Bar 800mm Length Honeycomb Spacer Copper Busbar Product on Alibaba.co
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The main power wires are 10 gauge silicone wires
The charging wires are 18 gauge silicone wires
The battery charger is Abakoo 67.2V 2A
The electrical insulating paper with adhesive layer
The Kapton tape assortment
MYJOR High Temperature Tape， 1 mil Kapton Tape, Polyimide Tape, Professional for Protecting CPU, PCB Circuit Board, 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1"- 4 Rolls，No Residue.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Pure nickel 0.2mm for the balancing wires tabs
Pure Nickel Strap-99.96% Nickel Strip for 18650 Battery Spot Welding Machine Welder Equipment - Amazon.com
150mm wire heat shrink PVC wrap
150mm(5.9in) Width PVC Heat Shrink Wrap Tube 18650 21700 26650 Lithium Battery DIY Battery Pack 3M(9.9ft) Length Blue: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Main power 80A fuse
80A fuse connectors
7.5A Charging fuse
Charging fuse holder
21700 Battery Insulator Rings
Amazon.com: 21700 Battery Insulator Ring, 300pcs Self-Adhesive Sturdy Cardboard Stickers Insulators Electrical Insulating Adhesive Paper for Sleeving 21700 Cells (21700 Insulator Ring) : Electronics
Amazon.com: 21700 Battery Insulator Ring, 300pcs Self-Adhesive Sturdy Cardboard Stickers Insulators Electrical Insulating Adhesive Paper for Sleeving 21700 Cells (21700 Insulator Ring) : Electronics
www.amazon.com
Charging port 5.5 x 2.1 mm for the seat post cover
Amazon.com: LUORNG 5Pcs 10A DC-099 Power Jack Cord Socket Threaded Female Mount Connector Adapter with Pre-soldered Wires and Waterproof Cover Cap, 5.5 x 2.1 MM : Tools & Home Improvement
BMS power button for the seat post cover 16mm Waterproof IP67 Metal Latching Push Button Switch
Amazon.com
The link with the battery build pictures process is posted in the previous post
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E-MAD MALC
Well-known member
Your brains on a different planet to mine with this kind of stuffIn case of someone wants to hot rod Markhor Kunlun and build the custom 60V 60A battery to use it with the VESC for Bafang M600 or M560 controllers here are the CAD files with the battery case and the new seat post compartment cover parts designed for FDM 3D printing.
For the battery case parts I recommend to use glass filled nylon
View attachment 172089
For the seat post compartment cover you can use any material you like. I used PLA
View attachment 172090
This is 16S3P battery with 21700 cells.
I used Samsung 50S cells
Samsung 50S 21700 5000mAh 25A Battery
Samsung 50S 21700—5000mAh, 25A high-drain power. Genuine cells, great price and fast US shipping. Is this the perfect pack cell for runtime + punch?! Shop.
I used this JBD SP17S005 battery management system 60A with Li-ion 3.7V settings
Jiabaida SP17S005 Smart BMS 10S-17S Wiring Diagram
The SP17S005 supports automatic recognition of 10S-17S lithium iron phosphate or ternary lithium batteries, and has a wide range of continuous current options from 20A to 120A, meeting the needs of different customers. Here is its wiring diagram
You can purchase it on Green Bike Kit website, here are the settings for the order
Smart BMS for 10S 11S 12S 13S 14S 15S 16S 17S 48V 52V 40A 60A 80A with small size with bluetooth software-Greenbikekit.com BBS, ebike batteries, Bafang M620, Bafang M600, Bafang M500, Bafang M510, KT controller with display-GreenBikeKit.com
Smart battery BMS for 10s, 11s, 12s, 13S 14S 15s, 16s, 17s, 48V 52V 80A 40A 20A 60A with small size/smart BMS software
View attachment 172091
The heat-set inserts are M6. You can purchase it here. Those inserts need to be shortened maybe 2 mm to fit properly
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
The battery mountings screws
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
The rubber washers for the battery mounting screws heads to protect the frame from scratches
McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.
The buss bar parts are cut out of the WELLGO 250A 21700 2P Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance copper-nickel sandwich bussbar
Wellgo Wholesale Cheap Price 250a 21700 2p Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance Copper Insulated Rust-resistant Busbar - Buy Rust-resistant Copper Busbar 250a 2p 21700 Insulated Bar 800mm Length Honeycomb Spacer Copper Busbar Product on Alibaba.co
Wellgo Wholesale Cheap Price 250a 21700 2p Honeycomb Spacer 22.5mm Center Distance Copper Insulated Rust-resistant Busbar - Buy Rust-resistant Copper Busbar 250a 2p 21700 Insulated Bar 800mm Length Honeycomb Spacer Copper Busbar Product on Alibaba.com
The main power wires are 10 gauge silicone wires
The charging wires are 18 gauge silicone wires
The battery charger is Abakoo 67.2V 2A
The electrical insulating paper with adhesive layer
The Kapton tape assortment
MYJOR High Temperature Tape， 1 mil Kapton Tape, Polyimide Tape, Professional for Protecting CPU, PCB Circuit Board, 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1"- 4 Rolls，No Residue.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Pure nickel 0.2mm for the balancing wires tabs
Pure Nickel Strap-99.96% Nickel Strip for 18650 Battery Spot Welding Machine Welder Equipment - Amazon.com
150mm wire heat shrink PVC wrap
150mm(5.9in) Width PVC Heat Shrink Wrap Tube 18650 21700 26650 Lithium Battery DIY Battery Pack 3M(9.9ft) Length Blue: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Main power 80A fuse
80A fuse connectors
7.5A Charging fuse
Charging fuse holder
21700 Battery Insulator Rings
Amazon.com: 21700 Battery Insulator Ring, 300pcs Self-Adhesive Sturdy Cardboard Stickers Insulators Electrical Insulating Adhesive Paper for Sleeving 21700 Cells (21700 Insulator Ring) : Electronics
Amazon.com: 21700 Battery Insulator Ring, 300pcs Self-Adhesive Sturdy Cardboard Stickers Insulators Electrical Insulating Adhesive Paper for Sleeving 21700 Cells (21700 Insulator Ring) : Electronicswww.amazon.com
Charging port 5.5 x 2.1 mm for the seat post cover
Amazon.com: LUORNG 5Pcs 10A DC-099 Power Jack Cord Socket Threaded Female Mount Connector Adapter with Pre-soldered Wires and Waterproof Cover Cap, 5.5 x 2.1 MM : Tools & Home Improvement
BMS power button for the seat post cover 16mm Waterproof IP67 Metal Latching Push Button Switch
Amazon.com
The link with the battery build pictures process is posted in the previous post
Well done matey for creating this
Bikeventure
New Member
Man I would love to have a bigger 900Wh battery in my Kunlun V2 and getting more power extracted from the motor. But making this myself is not something I am familiar with, are you also offering a plug&play solution for a bigger battery that is usable with the M560 ?
No, I have files for 3D print only for this battery. But you might be able to utilize the same housing for stock M560 if you change amount of parallel cells. This battery is 16S3P (48 cells total). You can make it 12S4P which is 44V nominal. I do not know if stock M560 can work with 44V though.
hay guys.... had my Kunlun for about year and a half very happy with my purchase haven't had any major issue's at all very happy with it 
my question is does anyone have a bearing list for the bike i need to change out the rear lower pivot bearing which is starting to creak
my question is does anyone have a bearing list for the bike i need to change out the rear lower pivot bearing which is starting to creakThe 3x3 still works fine. I like it, it works without issues and does not need maintenance. No grinding noises. I had Kindernay VII died on my other ebike after some time (the internal gears were chewed), I used it with 3000W Innotrace X1 controller with Bafang M620 though.@TQFreak
i love how simple that 3x3 looks
how do u like it ? no grinding noises yet?
i used to have a kindernay setup but it was so much trouble
bram.biesiekierski
Active member
I have destroyed 2 x Kindernay 7 on my Dengfu e22, with stock 48v m620. I had alot of various problems with Kindernay. They are great when they work, but unfortuantly not very reliable. (Probably why they went out of buisness) So far the CYC 5spd cassette based system is shaping up to be a very reliable and very affordable option.
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