Linkglide 1000 miles in.

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A thousand miles in on the Linkglide 10 speed (10-43). Cleaned and re-lubed the chain today ( diesel bath>boiling water and degreaser bath >, boiling water only bath>dry (two minutes...it's been in boiling water!)>oil>wipe excess off with an isopropyl wet rag). Measured wear, after 1000 miles, nothing really measurable, 0.1% wear tops on chain, nothing visible at all on cassette bar polishing on teeth. Beyond Impressed!.
 
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I had my first crash yesterday with 10-Speed linkglide, cage bent. I’m so dissaponted. It was nice 145km`s with it but I`m gonna change to 12-speed GX what I have in other bike. With that I have had trouble free 2500km’s, it has taken soo much beating and still rocking. Chain replaced at 1600km`s. Linkglide is excellent if you are not carefull with your shifts, but I`am so it doesn’t matter so much 😀. And of course it`s cheap as f*ck compared to Sram 😀
 
A thousand miles in on the Linkglide 10 speed (10-43). Cleaned and re-lubed the chain today ( diesel bath>boiling water and degreaser bath >, boiling water only bath>dry (two minutes...it's been in boiling water!)>oil>wipe excess off with an isopropyl wet rag). Measured wear, after 1000 miles, nothing really measurable, 0.1% wear tops on chain, nothing visible at all on cassette bar polishing on teeth. Beyond Impressed!.

A thousand miles in on the Linkglide 10 speed (10-43). Cleaned and re-lubed the chain today ( diesel bath>boiling water and degreaser bath >, boiling water only bath>dry (two minutes...it's been in boiling water!)>oil>wipe excess off with an isopropyl wet rag). Measured wear, after 1000 miles, nothing really measurable, 0.1% wear tops on chain, nothing visible at all on cassette bar polishing on teeth. Beyond Impressed!.
Linkglide is vastly underrated, it's a true workhorse and its been faultless on my Yeti 160e and replacement components are insanely affordable.
 
I changed my mind when looking Sram drivetrain part prices and give Linkglide second change 😂.UDH did it job and mech would have probably been ok but I tried to bend it before noticing that hanger needed to replace 😀
 
3500 miles into my 11 speed linkglide on my Orbea Rise. Still on my original chain with no wear showing on the chain checker. I degreased when it was new and dipped in molten speed wax and top off with super secret drip after particularly wet rides.

On my Giant Trance with hyperglide and standard lube with far fewer miles I went through three or four chains in probably half the miles and blew up, snapped and bent three derailleurs.

Its stupid crazy that they don’t spec emtbs with linkglide. Got to be greed involved as there has to be more of a profit margin on the high priced components.
 
I had my first crash yesterday with 10-Speed linkglide, cage bent. I’m so dissaponted. It was nice 145km`s with it but I`m gonna change to 12-speed GX what I have in other bike. With that I have had trouble free 2500km’s, it has taken soo much beating and still rocking. Chain replaced at 1600km`s. Linkglide is excellent if you are not carefull with your shifts, but I`am so it doesn’t matter so much 😀. And of course it`s cheap as f*ck compared to Sram 😀
What actual model derailleur was it? My understanding is that Linkglide is just the cog/chain interface tech, but you can get Linkglide compatible parts in everything from Cues (or maybe even lower), through Deore, and up to XT (and soon XTR if I understand correctly). I am sure there is a wide spectrum of derailleur cage strengths in that range of parts, and heavier isn't going to be stronger if they're using mild steel, or cast aluminum. Back in the day, XTR was shockingly strong, despite being the lightest, because the cages were cold forged. Not sure about the new stuff though.

TLDR: Not all "Linkglide" compatible parts are created equal (but they're all still a great deal compared to SRAM!).
 
What actual model derailleur was it? My understanding is that Linkglide is just the cog/chain interface tech, but you can get Linkglide compatible parts in everything from Cues (or maybe even lower), through Deore, and up to XT (and soon XTR if I understand correctly). I am sure there is a wide spectrum of derailleur cage strengths in that range of parts, and heavier isn't going to be stronger if they're using mild steel, or cast aluminum. Back in the day, XTR was shockingly strong, despite being the lightest, because the cages were cold forged. Not sure about the new stuff though.

TLDR: Not all "Linkglide" compatible parts are created equal (but they're all still a great deal compared to SRAM!).
There’s only one 10-Speed linkglade derailleur, Deore that is. I have that. And one 11-Speed Linkglide which is XT, I have that too on my commuter.
 
Thanks for experience sharing. Has anyone tried linkglide with an avinox system ?
 
I believe you are in error there are both Linkglide compatible Deore and Cues 11 speed Di2 derailleurs in addition to the XT, also a Cues 10 speed!
DEORE Di2 RD-M6260 11-speed E-MTB Rear Derailleur
CUES Di2 RD-U6070 11-speed Rear Derailleur
Cues is cheap, and you can see that (my son have 11-speed cues) Wouldn’t put to my bikes. And Di2 electronic, wouldn’t put that either to my bikes. I’m talking about two original Linkglides, Deore and XT. There’s more now because of those electronic ones.
 
It’s stupid crazy that they don’t spec emtbs with linkglide. Got to be greed involved as there has to be more of a profit margin on the high priced components.
I don’t think product managers spec Linkglide XT because it is 11-speed and is slightly heavier with the steel cassette. My guess is that the consumer perception is of a budget group with more weight and less speeds. Also, sram offer killer oem pricing deals if you bundle suspension and drivetrains together.
 
I don’t think product managers spec Linkglide XT because it is 11-speed and is slightly heavier with the steel cassette.
This is the current marketing problem with perceived premium EMTBs. Weight, Peak Power and Newton-metres is what is selling them. Linkglide is heavy.
 
Just curious, why not?
I don`t want or need auto-or freeshift and they are more expensive than analog. And I don’t want more batteries to worry about. Put getting one cable away from cockpit is tempting, I admit.
 
And I don’t want more batteries to worry about.
Agree additional batteries are a pain but you can get most derailleur versions that are powered from the main battery with conversion power cables available for Bosch motors and for me the additional expense is worth it to get rid of a cable. I have no garage so my bikes stay out side they are under cover but I regularly have shifter cables frozen up or very sluggish in winter. I am also something of a techie freak and would love to try out some of new software developements in the shifting area.
 
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Just curious, why not?
Autoshift is useless for Mountain Biking. Coastshift is brilliant. I will always fit electronic shifting to my EMTBs for Coastshift.

The ability to keep your feet level, with your preferred foot forward, but still change gear is a game changer. Instead of going f**k it, I'm the wrong gear to clear this next obstacle, but I don't want to alter my balance by pedalling to change gear. I just remain perfectly balanced, with my left foot forward, staying on the correct line, and press the shift button once, twice, whatever you need, and the preferred gear is obtained without doing anything else.

I find I'm never in that situation where you just try to power through in the wrong gear, since getting electronic shifting.
 
I don’t think product managers spec Linkglide XT because it is 11-speed and is slightly heavier with the steel cassette. My guess is that the consumer perception is of a budget group with more weight and less speeds. Also, sram offer killer oem pricing deals if you bundle suspension and drivetrains together.
139g difference (about 5oz) for the cassette. On an ebike that’s pretty insignificant compared to the durability benefit. I don’t miss 12th gear at all on an mtb, I rarely ever used it even when trying to keep up with roadie friends on pavement.
 
Mechanical gx lasted 900km in my mud shopping winter before starting to skip.

I slapped whole link glide groupset in at a cost lest than gx cassette and chain. Then proceeded to get 2600km without skipping in the same conditions. In truth the drive train was still going strong. But I changed out bikes.

I stripped gx transmission off the new bike and installed link glide. Made $700 on the on the "downgrade" and 800km of excellent shifting so far....

It is 300 grams heavier.... but worth it for the extra performance.
 
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Hi all,

I need a new chain and cassette (whoops, didn't keep an eye on chain wear!). Currently running the stock shimano 12 speed set.

Was thinking it's a good time to switch to link glide 11 speed.

My oquo wheels have dt350 hubs and I already have a spare dt hg freehub.

So planning to get a kit which includes cassette, chain, shifter and derailleur.

My question is, I assume I need to also replace the "12 speed" chainring (stock e*thirteen) ?
If that's the case, can anyone recommend a steel (longevity is the aim since bothering to swap to linkglide) one for the ep8 motor?


Cheers!
 
Hi all,

I need a new chain and cassette (whoops, didn't keep an eye on chain wear!). Currently running the stock shimano 12 speed set.

Was thinking it's a good time to switch to link glide 11 speed.

My oquo wheels have dt350 hubs and I already have a spare dt hg freehub.

So planning to get a kit which includes cassette, chain, shifter and derailleur.

My question is, I assume I need to also replace the "12 speed" chainring (stock e*thirteen) ?
If that's the case, can anyone recommend a steel (longevity is the aim since bothering to swap to linkglide) one for the ep8 motor?


Cheers!
Like @ShapeThings said, chainrings often have a bit broader range of compatibility than cassettes. For the most part, the narrowing of chains to allow for more gears in the back has been done by thinning the side plates (to make just the outer width narrower), rather than reducing the gap between the side plates (which would make both the outer and inner widths narrower).

To put it another way, most chains will fit on most chainrings.
 
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I run SRAM 12 speed on just about all my bikes, e and normal, but I do have one e-bike (a Marin Rift Zone EL) with 11 speed link glide and I have to say I’m really impressed with it so far.

Shifting has been perfect, the extra weight of the rear cassette goes unnoticed and longevity looks promising.

I’ve got some fancy AXS stuff, and whilst that’s also been reliable so far, it does feel like a bit of a novelty after a while.
 
About 1500 miles on my Deore XT 11spd and I've got the chain looking to jump to another sprocket but only in 10 and 11. I'll check the hangar bracket later today for plumb and check the chain for stretch too. Sure hope it's just out of adjustment a bit. I'm leaning towards that because I did experience a crash to the right side and smack dab on the derailleur mech. It was soft soft soft sand so I'm hoping I can bend it straight and keep going with the original chain, cassette and mech...

Went out and messed with it this evening. Looks like the hanger was straight but needed to be torqued to spec. Chain tool showed about 50% wear. Cassette teeth were still crisp and the assembly was wiggle free.
 
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