Hydrogen fuel cell e-bike (not emtb)

[Zimmerframe]

Quite bulky at this stage, but with a supposed 150km range and a brose motor :

https://www.pragma-industries.com/light-mobility/

This was developed almost two years ago, so presumably, things have moved on a bit.

The bikes was/is about €7500.

The next problem is that whilst it only takes 2 minutes to fill, charging stations cost about €45,000 to install ..

 

[wepn]

Tesla co-founder Marc Tarpenning put fuel cells into perspective in relation to automobiles. The case for hydrogen fuel cells stacks up better for aircraft and ships.

People will say that hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, but it’s abundant out there in the universe not here. We live on a planet where hydrogen is super reactive – it’s bound up into everything. It’s bound up into water, wood and everything else. The only way that you get hydrogen requires you to pour energy into it to break it from the chemical bonds.

Electrolysis is the most common method. You put electricity in water and it separates it, but you are pouring energy in, in order to make hydrogen, and then you have to compress it and that takes energy, and then you have to transport it to wherever you actually need it, which is really difficult because hydrogen is much harder to work with than gasoline or even natural gas – and natural gas is not that easy.

And then you ultimately have to place it into a car where you’ll have a very high-pressure vessel which offers its own safety issues – and that’s only to convert it back again to electricity to make the car go because hydrogen fuel cell cars are really electric cars. They just have an extraordinary bad battery.

Hydrogen is an energy carrier and not a primary fuel source on this planet. Maybe out somewhere in the universe, but not on a terrestrial planet.
When you add that all up, it turns out that the amount of energy per kilometer driven is just terrible. It’s way worse than almost anything else you can come up with – which I always suspected is one of the reasons why the energy companies have long been big proponents of it.

Marc Tarpenning

 

[slippery pete]

^^^^ this

The hydrogen lobbyists are trying it on to get government money for crazy infrastructure contracts. This is the end of the world distilled into a profit motive. Shame on them.