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Christurbo

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Hello,

I am trying to decide whether to strip my build down and sell parts separately vs selling as one package. It's simply an insane build so hard to decide.

Views on value would be great (100% health, 44 cycles, 569.4 miles).

Build thread here:-

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I dont know what sh e bikes are worth in the UK.

If that was in nz you'd be looking a $5-6k nzd $2.5k gbp to sell as a complete.

Selling as parts will net you more bit may take 6 months or so to sell all the separate parts.

Ps to you it might be an epic build. To someone else its simply an old second hand out of date technology alloy e bike. Its not super desirable.
 
Rob Rides EMTB said:
Its a lovely build, but an old bike, old motor, non t-type frame and quite niche.
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Plummet said:
to you it might be an epic build. To someone else its simply an old second hand out of date technology alloy e bike. Its not super desirable.
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These comments do raise a question in my head, what’s the point in worrying about frame and motor longevity if a 4 year old bike is written off for being ‘old’, non T-Type and ‘only’ a 90Nm motor?

I suppose a lot of us are ‘enthusiasts’ on here, and particularly interested in new developments, and whilst I also agree with the comments I also find it quite troubling that such a lovely bike is on the scrap heap from a resale point of view. Built in obsolescence is a thing it seems.

I know that the industry is all about building and selling you the next big thing (I mean how often do folks talk about 5 or 10mm chain stay length differences being critical) and some of us seem to lap it up, but I’m wondering if that’s typical or we’re a niche within a niche?

I’m just suggesting that perhaps we all need to give our collective heads a wobble, or perhaps I’ve been eating and drinking too much over Christmas…
 
Tooks said:
These comments do raise a question in my head, what’s the point in worrying about frame and motor longevity if a 4 year old bike is written off for being ‘old’, non T-Type and ‘only’ a 90Nm motor?

I suppose a lot of us are ‘enthusiasts’ on here, and particularly interested in new developments, and whilst I also agree with the comments I also find it quite troubling that such a lovely bike is on the scrap heap from a resale point of view. Built in obsolescence is a thing it seems.

I know that the industry is all about building and selling you the next big thing (I mean how often do folks talk about 5 or 10mm chain stay length differences being critical) and some of us seem to lap it up, but I’m wondering if that’s typical or we’re a niche within a niche?

I’m just suggesting that perhaps we all need to give our collective heads a wobble, or perhaps I’ve been eating and drinking too much over Christmas…
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It actually came out in 2019, so over 6 years old. The bike was priced at €6899 (£5999) brand new as Expert spec with dual crown. So arguabally if its held 50% of its new value 6 years later is pretty good (notwithstanding all the nice kit Chris put on it!).

The bike is still really good, is more than anyone needs more than likely.

They would have designed this frame 18-24 months before the 2019 release, when T-Type wasnt really a thing back in 2017/2018, no planned obsolescence, just a great bike that was sadly never updated and probably didnt sell anywhere near as well as Specialized thought it would. Ironically ahead of its time.
 
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The problem is that the build is pretty 'you' so all the bits are RRP to you, but worth bugger all to a buyer.
The AXS i wouldn't care about and i wouldn't pay £800 for them, nor would i pay nearly £2000 for the forks and shock. The Reverb dropper is worth 27p to me as they're utter garbage and the brakes would end up in the spares box. Bars and Stem, utterly straight in the spares bin for me....

I'm sure it's an amazing build, but i'd rather buy a stock one that i can do exactly what you've done and make my own instead.
I'd say £3000 you'd be doing well as a whole bike.
 
Tooks said:
These comments do raise a question in my head, what’s the point in worrying about frame and motor longevity if a 4 year old bike is written off for being ‘old’, non T-Type and ‘only’ a 90Nm motor?

I suppose a lot of us are ‘enthusiasts’ on here, and particularly interested in new developments, and whilst I also agree with the comments I also find it quite troubling that such a lovely bike is on the scrap heap from a resale point of view. Built in obsolescence is a thing it seems.

I know that the industry is all about building and selling you the next big thing (I mean how often do folks talk about 5 or 10mm chain stay length differences being critical) and some of us seem to lap it up, but I’m wondering if that’s typical or we’re a niche within a niche?

I’m just suggesting that perhaps we all need to give our collective heads a wobble, or perhaps I’ve been eating and drinking too much over Christmas…
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It is what it is. E bike technology is moving so fast with step changes happening all the time. A one year old e bike is old technology...

If you go in expecting to enjoy the shit out of your kit and when you go to sell you get what every you can and move on.

The sad thing from your part is you haven't used it much at all. Thats a bit of a waste, a full fruit bike that hasnt been used much.
 
Ask you haven't deducted the value of all the parts you removed to do that build can we assume you still have them? Check them back on and sell the stock bike for pretty much the same price as the modified bike then part out all the bling.

If you've sold the old parts your maths is wrong...
 
Who wants to be a used Eeb that has no warranty left as well.


It's a shame Ebikes are very much throwaway tech after a few years. It's such a massively wasteful industry and needs to change imo.
 
Rob Rides EMTB said:
It actually came out in 2019, so over 6 years old. The bike was priced at €6899 (£5999) brand new as Expert spec with dual crown.
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Blimey, time flies doesn’t it! I was getting it mixed up with the SL 2 release by the looks of it (I know this isn’t the SL).

Still, it’s worth more than my similar vintage Jam 2 I’m sure! 😃🤭

Parting it out is a pain, but I’m sure the Fork, Shock, frame with battery and motor etc will sell for fair money, the rest is a bonus.
 
Doomanic said:
Ask you haven't deducted the value of all the parts you removed to do that build can we assume you still have them? Check them back on and sell the stock bike for pretty much the same price as the modified bike then part out all the bling.

If you've sold the old parts your maths is wrong...
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Yes, still have the parts brand new and boxed up.

Didn’t realise I’d stoke so many emotions. Costs were what they were and factual. I haven’t in anyway put my ‘expectations’ on what I’d like.

It was just a simple question to discuss my options.

I will put back to standard and pop the bits up for sale one eBay.

Ps. Yes the mileage is low but I used to race it in Enduro. I bet I’d still whoop some ass on this vs the latest and greatest new tech. ;-)

Cheers for the input.

PPS…. I’m also selling Specialized Enduro. It sounds like I’m going to need to pay someone to take it off me after reading the comments 🤣
 
Plummet said:
The sad thing from your part is you haven't used it much at all. Thats a bit of a waste, a full fruit bike that hasnt been used much.
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Just for clarity, it’s not my bike, it belongs to @Christurbo , I was just chipping in with some wider (though hopefully still relevant!) thoughts.
 
Christurbo said:
I bet I’d still whoop some ass on this vs the latest and greatest new tech.
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Agree, lots of people fall for the shine of the new & lose sight of it's what you can do, not what you have that counts. Tom Isted flipped a world record at Darkfest on a second hand £300 Ebay frame but sure, Bluetooth droppers, why not?
 
What's your time worth?

Its an older eMTB and not worth much... that's how it goes. You can sell it complete, part it out, or part out high-end bits and replace with budget and sell as a "ready" bike.

Personally, *IF* I had parts on-hand and/or wanted to save the high-end stiff for another bike/build, I'd swap out the suspension and drivetrain for base/mid-tier FOX/RS/Shimano/SRAM and sell the bike whole.... it would likely sell the quickest (than frame only). Then I'd sell/keep the Ohlins and AXS. Then again, AXS probably not worth a lot...

When I look at it... its an older eMTB, with old "E" tech. I'd rather buy a newer, with lower-spec parts for similar money.
 
bmwpowere36m3 said:
What's your time worth?

Its an older eMTB and not worth much... that's how it goes. You can sell it complete, part it out, or part out high-end bits and replace with budget and sell as a "ready" bike.

Personally, *IF* I had parts on-hand and/or wanted to save the high-end stiff for another bike/build, I'd swap out the suspension and drivetrain for base/mid-tier FOX/RS/Shimano/SRAM and sell the bike whole.... it would likely sell the quickest (than frame only). Then I'd sell/keep the Ohlins and AXS. Then again, AXS probably not worth a lot...

When I look at it... its an older eMTB, with old "E" tech. I'd rather buy a newer, with lower-spec parts for similar money.
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It’s now put back to standard with new parts that came with it originally apart from the brakes - Shagura setup with MT7 pro.

Dead easy job that took a few hours. Much easier than working on GT4 car.

I’ll sell it as a fairly standard spec and put the nice parts for sale. If it sells, it sells if not, then no worries. If I have time again I might shred.
 
Christurbo said:
Much easier than working on GT4 car.
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I remember the pain of changing a starter motor on my Cayman, wedged between the seats, one leg going numb., whilst threading a ratchet with about four feet of extensions on it just to get to the bolts.
 
Ah, I assumed it was a current model.
 
Depreciated toys like this are better to hang on to. It's nearly worthless, and in a couple of years you'll want to go for a ride and you'll have the perfect bike to do it on.
Also, if you have any kids or even nephews, you might really make their day eventually by passing it down.
Store that thing!
 
Highland Wheels said:
Who wants to be a used Eeb that has no warranty left as well.


It's a shame Ebikes are very much throwaway tech after a few years. It's such a massively wasteful industry and needs to change imo.
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It's not only eebs. I have hispec Zerode Taniwha sitting in my shed doing sweet FA because it's really not worth selling. I would prefer to keep it if only for sentimental reasons
 
Tooks said:
These comments do raise a question in my head, what’s the point in worrying about frame and motor longevity if a 4 year old bike is written off for being ‘old’, non T-Type and ‘only’ a 90Nm motor?

I suppose a lot of us are ‘enthusiasts’ on here, and particularly interested in new developments, and whilst I also agree with the comments I also find it quite troubling that such a lovely bike is on the scrap heap from a resale point of view. Built in obsolescence is a thing it seems.

I know that the industry is all about building and selling you the next big thing (I mean how often do folks talk about 5 or 10mm chain stay length differences being critical) and some of us seem to lap it up, but I’m wondering if that’s typical or we’re a niche within a niche?

I’m just suggesting that perhaps we all need to give our collective heads a wobble, or perhaps I’ve been eating and drinking too much over Christmas…
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Say that all you like. If you want to actually live it there are deals galore out there for you.
 
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