This is not a political forum, no one want to hear you crying. YOU are falling for the division tactics and misinformation to separate the people into two camps. The sooner you wake up and realize both sides are working the same con, and are corrupt! the better off you will be.
Eurobike 2025: The DJI Flood Begins
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sethimus
😠 Donald Duck 😠
the ones putting people in concentration camps are from the party you voted for.
now be a good boy and tell us why alligator alcatraz is something that makes america great again
As close as we've got right now - from the mouth of a popular multibrand retailer here in the UK.
This is not a political forum boy
And rounding up and deporting illegal aliens is awesome! We need much more of it.
Thank you. This forum is loaded with karens, knowledge, logic, and reason probably wont fly.
Amflow released this as a concept Enduro bike at Eurobike. It uses the same frame but just burlier fit out. 170/150 with rear coil, mullet and DH boots.
If I decide to get more serious about my DH, I could modify my PL Carbon Pro to the same spec. I've already mulleted, with DT Swiss rims and upgraded the rear tyre.
With the mullet, you can leave the flip chip in 29 setting and get a sub 64 degree head angle. The longer travel forks would probably have you down around 63.5 dergrees.
90% of riders will be out biked by this setup.
Neither will condescension & arrogance. One way you could make America great again is by taking your Trumpy bullshit somewhere else.
martyfrommonmouth
Member
I'd say - it's 90% rider skill. 10% bike setup. It doesn't matter how good your bike is setup if you can't huck a 20ft gap at 40mph.It's not the setup only, the travel is important too. 150mm rear travel? That's just for bumps on fireroads
Rockhopper70
Active member
So why havnt any E enduro riders done this? I get that you are a big fan, but that’s for you. I’m talking about riders In competition.
I believe there was a chap on this very forum who recently reporting winning an e-enduro race on his Amflow. If I remember, they also said 2nd place was an Amflow also.
hopefully you will get deported by ICE , that would MAGA for sure , if you would be so kind to off from this forum , that would be great too
right off to get a spray tan and some bitcoin 
Because it's new.
I also haven't seen any reports of races being won on Miths, Forbiddens or even the new Levos. It doesn't mean that it's not happening. It's just not reaching mainstream media. And all we'll hear is casual reports, like what is being reported in here.
I rode my Amflow a couple of weeks ago with a guy who races downhill. He rode his Norco with the EP8 motor. Whilst I had no chance keeping up with him on pure downhill, though I wasn't that far behind. The single track uphill climbs were a different story. I was able to get through the chunk much quicker, and following me, he said I was able to take lines he just couldn't do, because he'd stall.
This is what I have noticed the most when riding the Amflow in uphill technical. I just take the straightest line, or the line that puts me in the best position for the next corner. I really don't care if that line means going over the roughest part of the path, because the Amflow just maintains it's momentum so well when climbing.
Obviously on the uphill fire roads he had no chance of keeping up with me.
I think a burlied up PL Carbon would make a great Enduro racing machine. The Amflow has won just about every climbing contest I've seen posted on the Internet. So the Enduro spec would be fantastic. I would just run it in it's slackest settings, have the seat forward, and run a 50mm stem.
It's not something I would do. Because I have no interest in going downhill any faster. I just cannot afford to get hurt at my age. So I prefer the lightness of the factory PL Carbon Pro suspension.
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Here we have a lot of long trails with long up hills, should be some new records on the 9-15 mile trails and loops.
And the fast flowy stuff! Forget about it!
Bunch of people here already have the gen 4 Levo and a few Sworks, so its not going to a given.
juggernaut
Member
Yep it hasn’t won every hillclimb comparison posted on the internet even when unlocked. Still not a bad effort for a lightweight ebike though.
It's not a first gen motor. Apparently they had been testing it for quite some time before release and the released motor was several generations in.
In an EMBN video recently with store owners who are selling the Amflow. They were commenting on how few warranty repairs they are getting in comparison with other motors.
First pro in USA authorized store, is mine exactly because of this. It was that or Sworks, and their complaints about motor cutting out midride turned me off that choice.
Hi guys, realised I had made a mistake with my Eurobike coverage and actually missed off video from Teewing, Steppenwolf and Crussis 
, just edited that content together into a short Tuesday evening video 
, just edited that content together into a short Tuesday evening video
Don't take my word on it. Listen to the shops selling the Amflow. Check the video at 9:45. The shop owner sells Whyte and Santa Cruz with Bosch motors but says he prefers selling the Amflow, because the bike goes out, and doesn't come back. Best for the customer. Best for his reputation as a bike shop. Best for his bottom line, not having to coordinate and labour cost warranty repairs.
It’s all still anecdotal (or advertorial) and way too early in the Avinox lifecycle to gauge long term reliability.
There still aren’t enough motors out there in the real world and having experienced enough use in all conditions to get meaningful data.
I seem to remember everything was fine and dandy with Brose Gen 2 motors until belts had some serious miles on them.
Thing is though, no manufacturer will publish their reliability data openly, so factual comparison by Joe Public is almost impossible. So, you’re left with posts on the internet (self selecting samples) or bike shops telling you that something they’re selling is the most reliable thing they’ve ever sold because, well, you work it out…
Your last sentence contradicts your first. If manufacturers don't release reliability data, then it is forever anecdotal. You can't have it both ways, claiming it's too early to understand DJI & we'll never be told anyway.
Over time, anecdotal is sufficient. We know that Bosch motors rattle, Shimano are disposable, earlier Brose eat belts and so on. Without early adopters, nothing would be known so in that sense, this whole digression is a circular argument. Buy one or don't but I'm not buying the argument that the only way to avoid problems is to stay out, that is facile on its own terms.
Over time, anecdotal is sufficient. We know that Bosch motors rattle, Shimano are disposable, earlier Brose eat belts and so on. Without early adopters, nothing would be known so in that sense, this whole digression is a circular argument. Buy one or don't but I'm not buying the argument that the only way to avoid problems is to stay out, that is facile on its own terms.
Sure. It's a 12 month review. But the signs are good.
Even the legacy brands bring out new motors, which are re-designs. And DJI would have sold many more DC Brushless Motors than any EBike manufacturer. You'd think they'd know how to produce a durable motor. And everything points to that being the case.
I mean the take up of the DJI Avinox motor by so many EMTB manufacturers, so quickly, seems quite unprecedented. There must be industry confidence in the motor.
Highland Wheels
Well-known member
Cesar at Unno has done a massive amount of mileage on his original test bike and doesn't appear to have had any issues with reliability, same goes for a few guys up here who regularly have them out doing big days in the mountains
They seem reliable enough for me to commit my money to, certainly more so than my old EP8
They seem reliable enough for me to commit my money to, certainly more so than my old EP8
Northman57
Member
And after the Olympia, here’s another DJI-powered Italian enduro e-MTB: Whistle AXR.
Full carbon, 29''/29'', 160mm/170mm travel, 64° slack head angle:
www.whistlebikes.com
Fair prices—the most expensive model is priced at €7,999. I especially liked the €5,999 version (new XT brakes, ZEB fork, and Super Deluxe shock). No idea about availability, but I suspect it will be around the end of the year. Whistle is known for putting on sale its bikes shortly after release, though I’m not really expecting any discounts this time, as demand for DJI remains high. We'll see.
Full carbon, 29''/29'', 160mm/170mm travel, 64° slack head angle:
E-MTB Full Carbon
www.whistlebikes.com
Fair prices—the most expensive model is priced at €7,999. I especially liked the €5,999 version (new XT brakes, ZEB fork, and Super Deluxe shock). No idea about availability, but I suspect it will be around the end of the year. Whistle is known for putting on sale its bikes shortly after release, though I’m not really expecting any discounts this time, as demand for DJI remains high. We'll see.
Waynemarlow
E*POWAH Elite
Only been a disaster because our darling MP's wouldn't accept a democratic vote which they had agreed to abide by.
For all those EU wannabees have you tried to buy in the rest of the world, I now buy virtually every bike part outside of the UK and the EU at far cheaper prices and at about the same delivery times. Its out there, you just have to think outside of the EU box.
Taps sign.
Waynemarlow
E*POWAH Elite
Just saying its a big wide world out there.
Love my EP801. The whole Shimano Eco-system is so cheap and well supported in Australia. It's why I run it as spare to the Amflow.
Highland Wheels
Well-known member
I sold my Shimano powered Intense, I'll never own another Shimano Eeb, they are so far behind everyone else it's laughable, not to mention how poor their reliability is
Shane as the bike itself rode properly good but the fact the new version is going Bosch says it all.
Bogdan_CH
Active member
And after the Olympia, here’s another DJI-powered Italian enduro e-MTB: Whistle AXR.
Full carbon, 29''/29'', 160mm/170mm travel, 64° slack head angle:
E-MTB Full Carbon
Fair prices—the most expensive model is priced at €7,999. I especially liked the €5,999 version (new XT brakes, ZEB fork, and Super Deluxe shock). No idea about availability, but I suspect it will be around the end of the year. Whistle is known for putting on sale its bikes shortly after release, though I’m not really expecting any discounts this time, as demand for DJI remains high. We'll see.
"awesome" bike brand, there is literally not Geo data for any bike they sell.....
