Bosch 2024+ Pivot Shuttle AM new Flow App Release and Motor Firmware adding Auto/ Eco+

[Mockcyto]

new firmware is out and it's adds features without having to get it flashed at your dealer now finally. IOS app Flow update is out, looks like android wasn't yesterday.
You can add Auto now to your ride modes with the quick update. Before you had to have your Bosch Dealer firmware your pivot AM to get Auto mode. So this is a welcome addition to the app to skip that.
The new Eco+ looks to be a great update for range and urban riding or XC style riding.

The Auto Mode lets you focus on maintaining a speed aka flow which is kind of an upgrade over eMtb. Eco + lets you adjust when the power is applied otherwise the motor is off so no more flicking the motor off on flats. You can define 4 parameters when you are riding now to tell it when to add power. aka assist at a certain speed, incline effort etc.. this could ring out some great workouts and even more range as I have no problem spinning the bike at sub 12mph flat without motor and do often, but hate having to dance the button back to power mode and back off all the time.

I have Flow+ and Connect Module it now adds remote checking of my ebike battery status from anywhere when the bike is off, and some metric post ride but I don't have a display to see those new features. They added more urban planning for Bosch Connect app for.

 

[RustyIron]

Right on, Chris. I don't care whether it's my iPhone, industrial systems, or eMTB, I'm always on top of installing and running the latest software. I'm glad the folks at Bosch/Pivot are always working to iron out wrinkles and squash bugs. The Eco+ mode sounds like a fun thing to try out, but I know it's not for me. Once in a while I'll go down to Eco just to goof around, but my bike is a slow rolling pig without some amount of assist.

 

[Husky430]

So this update is only for 2024 Bosch motors?

 

[Mockcyto]

So this update is only for 2024 Bosch motors?

Should be for all Bosch motors I only put the year in since prior am ran shimano motors

 

[Mockcyto]

You can see the flow+ subscription showing you how much I pedaled vs used motor and the watts shows you in blue the assist over what I am capable of 115 watts max since I haven’t ridden in 7 years

 

[Mockcyto]

Right on, Chris. I don't care whether it's my iPhone, industrial systems, or eMTB, I'm always on top of installing and running the latest software. I'm glad the folks at Bosch/Pivot are always working to iron out wrinkles and squash bugs. The Eco+ mode sounds like a fun thing to try out, but I know it's not for me. Once in a while I'll go down to Eco just to goof around, but my bike is a slow rolling pig without some amount of assist.

I customized eco+ to simulate riding my Amish pivot Mach 5.5 where it gives me assist over about 80watts when I am struggling and runs without motor on the flats. I only used 12% battery on 9 mile xc style ride with 225 ft elevation. It’s nothing like eco. I maxed my torque out at 60. And messed with the settings. You basically tailor the feel of how it performs. Way better workout and lets me work my legs harder

 

[Mockcyto]

since my watt output is about 115watt this setting simulated my Amish bike, if you had more leg power you could add +1 or +2 to the Dynamic. At +5 Dynamic it will assist after 100watts of pedaling power for those that are really fit. I lowered the torque so when i'm going 14mph and it applies the assistance at a -2 lower number and the softer torque it's very fluid there is no rush of power just feels like a normal old school bike. It causes me to have to drop shift and get out of the saddle to climb longer climbs and helps me work my leg strength. Battery usage was minimal.

 

[cragginshred]

Have you guys noticed the app will track your drive to the ride sometimes? I think it's because I turn the app on and ck the battery before i leave or before we do a partial shuttle up due to towing and amish rider

 

[kbass24emtp]

I’ve been using Auto for a while now and it is the best mod.

 

[JP-NZ]

I have Flow+ and Connect Module it now adds remote checking of my ebike battery status from anywhere when the bike is off, and some metric post ride but I don't have a display to see those new features. They added more urban planning for Bosch Connect app for.

Is the bold part not standard for all? I have a MY22 Rail and I can see my battery status in the app all the time. I don't have Flow+

 

[Mockcyto]

Is the bold part not standard for all? I have a MY22 Rail and I can see my battery status in the app all the time. I don't have Flow+

I have a pivot shuttle AM, maybe the trek uses wifi to update your app. I can see my battery with the app when I'm at the house but it only showed the last time it was turned on. With Flow + the GPS/Cellphone transmitter in the Connect module you wire into the motor and battery on the bike polls the battery and sends that to the flow app periodically through out the day and the gps location and it shows that the battery is at 57% 5 minutes ago.. It's pretty handy when charging the bike. But honestly turning the bike off and having the battery in the app without Flow + is good enough.

 

[JP-NZ]

Oh yea sorry mine is showing the last time it was on. It never drops percentage anyway. Mine shows charge level if the bike is on or off as well as long as it’s charging.

 

[Mockcyto]

Oh yea sorry mine is showing the last time it was on. It never drops percentage anyway. Mine shows charge level if the bike is on or off as well as long as it’s charging.

yeah I didn't think this was much of a feature either.. it honestly is kinda cool being able to check on it while it charges but I'm just being lazy not to walk into the other room. Bosch is just trying to justify the $3.99 a month for Flow+ service, which I don't think I will renew after the free period. I will probably just buy a real GPS/cell tracker that doesn't require all the reboots for transport/alarm mode at every stop.

 

[RustyIron]

Is the bold part not standard for all? I have a MY22 Rail and I can see my battery status in the app all the time. I don't have Flow+

Yeah, I can use the app just like before. I don't know what all the fuss is about.

 

[FormerFloppy]

Has anyone been able to find any info about what sort of increments the +/- sliders add / subtract in various modes?

Found information about what each of these modes do not very intuitive at all, so understanding some actual values would be helpful to understand how to compare modes and make adjustments.

For example, Tour + says “assistance with up to 340% of your own power”.

Does that mean with the slider ALL the way right, you get 340%? If so what is the middle value? And how much does each increment add or subtract?

If anyone has any info, that would be helpful!

Also, if anyone interested here is the link to Bosch’s descriptors of each mode, which was a great resource.

https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/products/riding-modes