Amflow PL Carbon "weight loss"

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Hi,

I bought the Amflow PL Carbon "standard" model a week ago and my goal was to reduce weight (weight of the bike, reducing my weight is another story ...).
Starting weight last week was 21456g (frame size L , with plastic pedals, ready to ride).

And today: 18460g (ready to ride)

Parts changed:
- light wheels from "Neelz Wheels" (German Shop) with Duke carbon rims and NOX hubs, Wolfpack Speed tires with Schwalbe xtralight tubes, XTR cassette: minus 2000g

- Exustar E-PM215 pedals: plus 17g

- KCNC Razor 203mm disks: minus 163g

- Procraft PRC SP2 UD Carbon seat post: minus 549g

- Selle Carbonio seat: minus 139g

- Cannondale Hologram SAVE bar: minus 175g

- SRAM AXS pod controller: minus 129g

- SRAM X01 Eagle AXS derailleur with power cord: plus 89g

- Shimano XTR disk brakes: weight loss not known, haven't weight the brakes

Weight today: 18460g (ready to ride, including bell and an air tag)

Time to ride ;)

I know, that several parts are not for "heavy duty" bike rides, but that's not the intended use for the bike.
My goal was to reduce the Amflow below the Pro model - goal reached ;)

Greetings from Germany
Peter
 
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Newchurch said:
Hi,

I bought the Amflow PL Carbon "standard" model a week ago and my goal was to reduce weight (weight of the bike, reducing my weight is another story ...).
Starting weight last week was 21456g (frame size L , with plastic pedals, ready to ride).

And today: 18460g (ready to ride)

Parts changed:
- light wheels from "Neelz Wheels" (German Shop) with Duke carbon rims and NOX hubs, Wolfpack Speed tires with Schwalbe xtralight tubes, XTR cassette: minus 2000g

- Exustar E-PM215 pedals: plus 17g

- KCNC Razor 203mm disks: minus 163g

- Procraft PRC SP2 UD Carbon seat post: minus 549g

- Selle Carbonio seat: minus 139g

- Cannondale Hologram SAVE bar: minus 175g

- SRAM AXS pod controller: minus 129g

- SRAM X01 Eagle AXS derailleur with power cord: plus 89g

- Shimano XTR disk brakes: weight loss not known, haven't weight the brakes

Weight today: 18460g (ready to ride, including bell and an air tag)

Time to ride ;)

I know, that several parts are not for "heavy duty" bike rides, but that's not the intended use for the bike.
My goal was to reduce the Amflow below the Pro model - goal reached ;)

Greetings from Germany
Peter
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You ditched the dropper post?
 
Streddaz said:
You ditched the dropper post?
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this is all there is to know on how serious his riding is and that he only decided that weight is his main deciding factor in choosing his parts.

i mean, just look at these "brake" discs:

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this bike will never see more than a s1 trail
 
Newchurch said:
Yes, I don't need a dropper post the last 30 years ...
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If you are riding any proper MTB descents or jumping, you don't know what you are missing out on.

If you aren't, isn't dropping the weight in a 150/160mm travel Ebike kind of pointless? You are giving away all the functionality of what the bike is designed for. It's like buying a very capable 4x4 then lowering it and putting slick tyres on it. Won't go off road anymore, still won't perform like a track car.
If it's a bike path bike, I would have thought a commuter/road/gravel Ebike would be much faster.

Not knocking what you are doing, it's your bike after all, just trying to understand the reasoning behind it.
 
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xtraman122 said:
An ebike with the power of an Amflow weighing 18.4kg/40lbs is pretty crazy to think about.
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Not really, as it is no longer capable of what it is designed for. Anyone could just remove parts and make the bike barely rideable. Apart from going up a fire trail a good rider on any of the other sub 18kg Ebikes could beat is as the handling, grip, braking and resilience are all compromised. Each to their own I suppose. 🤷‍♂️
 
Newchurch said:
Hi,

I bought the Amflow PL Carbon "standard" model a week ago and my goal was to reduce weight (weight of the bike, reducing my weight is another story ...).
Starting weight last week was 21456g (frame size L , with plastic pedals, ready to ride).

And today: 18460g (ready to ride)

Parts changed:
- light wheels from "Neelz Wheels" (German Shop) with Duke carbon rims and NOX hubs, Wolfpack Speed tires with Schwalbe xtralight tubes, XTR cassette: minus 2000g

- Exustar E-PM215 pedals: plus 17g

- KCNC Razor 203mm disks: minus 163g

- Procraft PRC SP2 UD Carbon seat post: minus 549g

- Selle Carbonio seat: minus 139g

- Cannondale Hologram SAVE bar: minus 175g

- SRAM AXS pod controller: minus 129g

- SRAM X01 Eagle AXS derailleur with power cord: plus 89g

- Shimano XTR disk brakes: weight loss not known, haven't weight the brakes

Weight today: 18460g (ready to ride, including bell and an air tag)

Time to ride ;)

I know, that several parts are not for "heavy duty" bike rides, but that's not the intended use for the bike.
My goal was to reduce the Amflow below the Pro model - goal reached ;)

Greetings from Germany
Peter
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Super bravo
 
Streddaz said:
Not really, as it is no longer capable of what it is designed for. Anyone could just remove parts and make the bike barely rideable. Apart from going up a fire trail a good rider on any of the other sub 18kg Ebikes could beat is as the handling, grip, braking and resilience are all compromised. Each to their own I suppose. 🤷‍♂️
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Didn’t realize the dropper was removed and how weak those brakes look. Now it’s starting to make more sense.
 
Newchurch said:
Hi,

I bought the Amflow PL Carbon "standard" model a week ago and my goal was to reduce weight (weight of the bike, reducing my weight is another story ...).
Starting weight last week was 21456g (frame size L , with plastic pedals, ready to ride).

And today: 18460g (ready to ride)

Parts changed:
- light wheels from "Neelz Wheels" (German Shop) with Duke carbon rims and NOX hubs, Wolfpack Speed tires with Schwalbe xtralight tubes, XTR cassette: minus 2000g

- Exustar E-PM215 pedals: plus 17g

- KCNC Razor 203mm disks: minus 163g

- Procraft PRC SP2 UD Carbon seat post: minus 549g

- Selle Carbonio seat: minus 139g

- Cannondale Hologram SAVE bar: minus 175g

- SRAM AXS pod controller: minus 129g

- SRAM X01 Eagle AXS derailleur with power cord: plus 89g

- Shimano XTR disk brakes: weight loss not known, haven't weight the brakes

Weight today: 18460g (ready to ride, including bell and an air tag)

Time to ride ;)

I know, that several parts are not for "heavy duty" bike rides, but that's not the intended use for the bike.
My goal was to reduce the Amflow below the Pro model - goal reached ;)

Greetings from Germany
Peter
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2kg de moins que le pro donc les roues du pro sont trop lourde 1900kg
 
HandsomeDanNZ said:
I just can't imagine NOT having a dropper.
I've been riding since the 1800's and only got my first dropper about 5 years ago. I simply couldn't ride without it now.
It would be the most used thing on my bike next to the motor.
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You can certainly ride a mountain bike without a dropper. XC racers have done for a long time, but your riding position is always compromised when descending or jumping because you can't get you bodyweight in the right position. Mose XC riders now run a dropper post now, because the XC courses are becoming steeper and more technical.
Before dropper posts, we had quick release seat tube clamps, so when you got to the top of a big descent you manually dropped your seat. A real pain on undulating terrain.
 
Streddaz said:
You can certainly ride a mountain bike without a dropper. XC racers have done for a long time, but your riding position is always compromised when descending or jumping because you can't get you bodyweight in the right position. Mose XC riders now run a dropper post now, because the XC courses are becoming steeper and more technical.
Before dropper posts, we had quick release seat tube clamps, so when you got to the top of a big descent you manually dropped your seat. A real pain on undulating terrain.
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Au championnat du monde beaucoup utilisent la tige vertical hélium
 
Newchurch said:
Ah ... and where do you get the Amflow frame with Avinox drive train???
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If you clap your hands three times and spin around twice. The EMTB fairies will bring you an Amflow frame with Avinox drive train ..... Or you could do what you did. But that means not believing in fairies ........ 😜😜😜

Whilst I don't agree with you're built. Especially the removal of the dropper post. Great engineering exercise.

I'm thinking of doing the same. But I was only going to upgrade the Transmission to SRAM Wireless. And I was going to use the GX AXS.
 
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If I was going weight weenie, pretty much the last bike I would do it to is the Amflow.
 
RustyMTB said:
Parce que c'est deja suffaisement vite.
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Ok moi je parle de maniabilité et de velo plus réactif surtout avec un cadre aussi léger que amflow et je trouve que c'est une erreur de mettre du poids supplémentaire sur ce cadre, comme je vois sur le forum avec des fourches en 38 ,des amortisseurs et roues trop lourdes.et velo plus léger donc plus de distance
 
Not poids supplémentaire but as the manufacturer intended. Anything else is user modifcation.
 
I want the new Avinox drive train and a light eMTB. And I don't MTB riding on bike parks, "heavy duty" downhills or on trails with high jumps, etc. So that's MY IDEAL eBike. If someone of you need a dropper, etc. - your problem ;)

I will take some pictures today.
 
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