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Not answering is answering, I guess...

Perhaps it was karma. Sincerely, your friendly pleb cuck.

Hi Amflow support. I'm purchasing a new bike soon. I'm on the fence about the Amflow - I'm close to purchasing one, but I'm very concerned about reports of the motor rattling while not pedalling. If the motor develops a loud persistent rattle, is that covered under warranty, or is it considered...

Well, to be honest, I think post 57 tells the story pretty clearly. I think, I want to be game for a Amflow, I really do. But I can't get in this situation: https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/is-the-amflow-this-rattley.43448/post-629737

I'd love to hear from Rob about the rattley Crestline. Has he tried to get the rattle sorted? What happened. This is crucial information!

I'm pretty sure the goal is a general comparison of the same-rider same-trail between the different bikes; and with stock tires. I don't think It's meant to apply to your specific trails/tires/use case. Also looks like they use the same Wahoo. Could report very different to whatever you're...

Yeah. At 32 I wouldn't bother derestricting. But what has generally happened is "since I'm derestricting, might as well make it 40+". NZ just got 45kph now I see, and people can take their bikes to dealers and get them reset. Another good reason to plan to retire there :)

Sieg Heil

Speeding in a car, is 10km/h over the limit "more ok" than 100km/h over the limit? :)

Got a mate who's a welder? :)

Did you ever resolve this Dan?

1st post in this thread I think is the clearest one, the EMBN video.

Lol, it seems a bit unsurprising, is it really reasonable to expect you can just detonate the rims eternally off one purchase price? :)

Wow, it's such a massive different in efficiency vs Bosch, huh? Real world comparison, 4% over a full battery. It's a win, but It's only a small factor when choosing a bike. It's an evolutionary-sized improvement, not revolutionary.

Totally agree. In a year there will be a bunch of bikes much better than the Amflow with the Avinox motor. Assuming it proves reliable it'll get picked up by big brands. The Avinox may even not be a rattly-motor lottery by then. For ebike $$$ outlay that's too short of a longevity for me. Cashed...

So 2.8s might finally have a real world use?

I have thought this because I had a Gen 4 Alloy Orbea Wild that had a quiet rattle, and later a Gen 4 Carbon Rail that had a horribly loud rattle. Apparently though carbon is much better at muffling sound than alloy because it absorbs vibration, and we of course know this from how bikes ride...

Looks like a fuckin massive difference though. I've never seen anything like that with any other type of motor, I've had a few now.

What I've been witnessing on POVs, and what people are describing, sounds WAYYY beyond "it's got some miles so isn't as tight". Hey look, I've done big miles on rattly Bosch Gen 4s. I've put up with it. But it's just not what I want to spend my money on. Even if it does have a bit more power...