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These new e-bikes have a lot of power. I can climb the steep things in Turbo, but it's a bit sketchy for several reasons. The only e-bike that I could imagine that could actually utilize Avinox levels of power on a steep technical climb would be the E-Druid, because of the longer chainstays...

First of all, it's a guess, just like all of us are guessing, because it's an enthusiasts forum, and that's what we do. So calm down. Secondly, and importantly: I'm just more committed to 'bicycling' being a distinct sport from 'e-motorcycles'. Avinox has already chosen to blow the lid off of...

Same, It's actually a significant upgrade in overall performance. I still can't figure out the logic of when it activates. I think it knows when your speed is changing because on total flats it doesn't occur for me. It also absolutely changes gears as needed when you have preselected.

We're really discussing minute differences as we tend to do on enthusiast forums, but from where I'm sitting the Bosch Wild is a really ideal AM bike with a wide band where it functions really well, whereas the Avinox Wild is just centered a bit more over the Super Enduro space. As a result...

That's a heck of a max manual! I could do without the audio able notification but it doesn't bother me and the info is fun to review afterwards. I average about 7 jumps per mile and max out at 2 meters off the ground on my local trails.

I once read that a proto mold is CNCed Al, where-as a perm mold is cast or forged steel that required a 'frame' from a proto mold to even make, but I don't actually know.

Sethimus: 'learn to ride dumbass...'. Cue 6-year-old crying while picking up new bike.

That's good legitimate reasoning. Thanks!

Dear God please tell me you don't work in customer service in that shop.

Certainly, people operate them differently, just like road cars are treated differently than race cars. But for many, they are high-performance machines. So, I do think power transfer, efficiency, etc. matters. We'll see. exciting times for sure.

They don't need to 'give' them a bike, they just need to loan them one new bike after another. Which is what they all do right?

How come no performance motorsports used eCVT? Not MotoGP, not MX racing, not auto racing in any form, etc. I still suspect that this product and others like it are going to be most appropriate for cargo bikes and the like, but I hope I'm wrong.

That's the game right? Give people free bikes to ride and they talk it up, so then as consumers we hardly know who to trust. If Orbea is really bucking the trend, and it will cost them glowing reviews and therefore sales, good for them.

I find this all very German, to sort of under promise yet overdeliver regarding its capabilities.

The base size small EX+ I bought for my gf weighed 46#! It'll be about 41#s (with the 580wh battery!) this time next month though. Those cheap parts really added up and that was with trail tires!

Use blue locktite on your rear axle threads and normal torque value.

Yah, I don't believe that weight at all. Is the battery made of air?

Agreed.

I'd like a link to this video. I rode my Bosch through a running river 2x in the last week so I should probably pay attention to these things.

Still, if Avinox's trick is to use an ultra-low engagement hub to mask the inherent rattle, that's less than ideal. I get there are products that reduce pedal hub engagement and therefore reduce PK. They certainly have their place. But reasonably fast engagement hubs still provide a meaningful...