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Now I feel bad as it was kinda my fault for bringing up the VPN thing again.

You emoji pooped my earlier question, but why can't you just use a VPN to change the speed? Achieves the same thing, no?

I think Amflow told OP to contact the dealer, but the dealer is ghosting them.

Neds on Surrons and Strava seems like an odd combo! Surprised they'd want to record their illegal activities but I guess it show how few fucks they give these days.

Eurobike has been and gone, nothing new announced from TQ?

Why are people crying about a lack of Class 3? Surely you can just VPN like 99% of everyone else* with an Avinox powered bike? *assumption based purely on all the Strava times on my local trails... no one else is doing 19mph up hill :D

Cool! The Hill of Marcus trails are some of my favourites at Kirkhill. I usually use about 50% there and them move onto the Tyrebagger side (Slab Runner, Woodpecker etc). The ferns are starting to take over a bit with all the recent rain and sun!

Anything above 10°C and Aberdonians take their tops off and get the BBQ out 😄

Weekly pilgrimage to Kirkhill. 23 miles and 3284ft of climbing. Was scorchio by Aberdeen standards, but thankfully the wind picked up a bit. Got home and ate far too much pizza.

If they did an internal battery designed to fit a 2025 Orbea Rise I'd certainly be very interested in a few years.

That might be more due to sourcing all the parts and putting the build together (I'm sure there will be a queue), rather than actually manufacturing the frame.

You've said you want a more of a all-mtn bike rather than a plough. Plus you'd probably have an easier time with any warranty issues with SC, and of course the lifetime bearing replacements.

I'm an Orbea fanboi but from those 3 I'd get the Vala.

As above, I'd just find a bike locally. The motor is only part of the bike/experience and shouldn't be the only thing to focus on. Nothing wrong with Bosch, or even Shimano (I love my "old Tech" EP801 equipped 2025 Orbea Rise LT). FFIW I originally wanted a Levo 4 too but the alloy models were...

Is the TLDR that you do or don't want an Avinox bike?

Here: https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/discounted-bike-and-parts-thread-cheap-er-ebikes-stuff.32222/

Wooosh! That went right over my head :D

I'm in Scotland yes, but Peaty's is a UK company so easy to order online or pick up in store from bike shops (my local only sells Muc-Off though, which I don't like).

A fresh bottle of the good stuff...

The kid in the childseat when the parent hits Boost: