Having had a couple of Orbea Rises witha "RS" tune, my view is that capping the power is pretty daft. You start pedalling faster and the motor just dies. Kills the "sporty" feeling. Ideally you want max torque to stay constant over a wide cadence band. If you want the battery to last longer...
Out of interest, why are people interested in a HPR90? There are many other motors out there with 85+ Nm. Is it the lack of noise? Is it the form factor? If it is the "natural" feeling of the TQ motor I suspect that particular character trait goes out the window once they up the assistance to...
For a commute I'd rather have the Vado 3X. For more general purpose the Levo with the bottom bracket raised, steep head tube angle and high rise handlebars for a more upright position. Base model is less than 5k euros, just add racks. Let me know if you find the Rothmans wrap :)
Apparently there's now also a Vado 3X (full suspension Vado), so Specialized is getting more out of the 3.1 ecosystem. As with cars, each new model is heavier and larger than the previous, so I guess what many folks are waiting for is the next Levo SL which will be more like the earlier Levo...
Having a front and rear rack is good for weight distribution. Some items are large in volume but not that heavy, so you can always put those in front if you prefer. Lastly, a front rack can carry a bag of snacks or other things that you can easily access while riding.
The best rear rack to fit on a Levo so far has been the Tailfin. You change the rear thru-axle for a custom one that sticks a bit out. Takes seconds to attach and remove the rack itself. This new Specialized rack however is attached to the frame which is a huge plus. The 4X is like a Riese &...
I've tried the Enviolo cable operated version and I did not like it one bit. With the mechanical Rohloff, I felt you had to back off pedalling too much to change into a lower gear. Not that much of a problem with the electronic version.
The Enviolo automatiq, without the controller, is pretty...
Having had a decent amount of ride time on the Orbea Muga 10, I'm sold on the automatic gearing! It's just so nice moving about. As I had assumed, the most problematic is the transition from flat to very steep. It's like when you forget to downshift on a derailleur bike. To cope with this I've...
I've been riding a Bosch gen5-powered bike the last week. It did not have the latest 600% performance upgrade. You really notice the lower multiplier. The Levo just zooms so effortlessly up a hill.
The Orbea Rise SL is a pretty good example of a detuned full power motor (albeit yesterdays full power) with a small 400Wh battery to form a "SL" bike. The only disadvantage is 500 gram weight penalty plus a bulkier motor area. Same could be done with the Avinox motor if they would be willing to...
Just remember that Avinox has a 8x multiplier while Bosch has 4x. Bosch will certainly be more "unnatural" when they release the next power update since the difference between what you think the motor will do and what it actually does will be amplified.
Just dial it way, way down? In my experience, the combination of a high multiplier and low rider input is when a motor struggles the most being "natural".
Personal preference, but I didn't care much for the TQ (had a Fuel Exe with the TQ50) apart from the lack of noise.
M2S/700Wh would be about the same weight as EP801/630Wh. You could always dial the power down for longer rides. Orbea may even do their silly RS tune.
Still think it's a bit...
I'd accept a 600 gram weight penalty with a M2S. A TQ60 motor would turn away many buyers I suspect. However, since TQ is now used in the new Rallon RS, I suppose it could happen.
(btw, saw the Rallon RS this week, great looking bike)