Singletrackmind
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#17 has arrived!
Will post full specs and pics once I complete the custom install.
Will post full specs and pics once I complete the custom install.
Crestline RS 181.2 thread – builds, reviews, technical info
- Thread starter BikeBert
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I'm curious too, do you have the HBO set to click 1?
I ended up buying the same model shock (came off a RS 181.2) to use as an expensive "spare"...but I really do want to ride it.
It seems pretty heavy (not that I care).
The Ext springs are $135 each and they are slow to ship...my frame is still being built up...but I'm going to try the coil that came with it first.
John_likes_bikes
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There's a lot of progression at the end of 181's travel, why I've preferred a coil over air. With the Vivid air Troyon has recommended no HBO, so if you're not getting through all the travel when you feel you should be then I'd remove the spacer, super easy to do.
Yeah as @John_likes_bikes mentioned there's a lot of progression at the end stroke so I have ABO turned off. I don't think I've fully bottomed out my Vivid Air on the RS181.2 ever.
Heckler Sb130
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$11k for your dot 2?!? I wish my Plaid frame & build came in at $11k but for now I’m not adding it all up. Just a little coin there. A little coin here and so on.
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Interesting, I don’t have any issues getting full travel out of my Float X2.
How has this SIM card been working for you? (I just bought one)
How much rear travel are you using?
I don't care if I don't use all of the travel (assuming no other issue)...but if I'm only using 160 mm or so...I will want to see what difference removing the token will make...I .would love to know your experience if you remove yours.
I probably won't care if I'm using around 170 mm (94%).
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Using the same one , it's been fine. Not really as useful as I imagined though.
On my Vioma, the Bosch ConnectModule can drive me crazy if I forget to put the bike in Transport mode...else I get alerts that someone is stealing my bike driving to/from the trails.
The way Bosch programmed it, if it doesn't have a decent cell signal...it is a pain to put it in/out of Transport mode...
I'm not sure if Avinox is similar.
Heckler Sb130
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What are the benefits of the SIM card?
John_likes_bikes
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Like @digitale I've never had a problem using all the travel. Asking an obvious questions, are you in 160mm travel setting? Sag pressure right? I'd take the shock off and cycle the suspension to make sure there isn't binding. Then take out the spacer, turn off HSC and ride in the same place you couldn't get full travel. Unless your < 150lbs or so I can't imagine why you wouldn't use all the travel unless you're riding very tame greens.
Can anyone post photos showing how much space (if any) they have between their cranks and the motor case at the spindle? My North Shore Billet Talon cranks are advertised to work on Avinox motors but they’re bottoming out on the motor case before being fully torqued.
I ordered some cheap e13 cranks to compare the fit and to get the bike finished so I can ride… getting pretty frustrated that my new bike is still unridden and on the bike stand
I ordered some cheap e13 cranks to compare the fit and to get the bike finished so I can ride… getting pretty frustrated that my new bike is still unridden and on the bike stand
Anyone struggling with f/r balance on the new zeb? I had the last model zeb dialed. I’m wondering if the linear thing is getting me. I had a bad OTB the other day and almost another yesterday. Seems front is getting deeper in travel and rear is unloading before front recovers. I have rebound 2 clicks from full fast. Might need to fully open rebound. Using almost all travel with just couple mm reserve which is used on bigger hits (so that’s good).
I’m 155lbs on 400 spring which is less than what troydons chart recommends and it has me at 26-27ish sag. I have a lighter spring coming today just to see if 30% at the shock will help balance the front end. I matched fork to same sag. I’m just trying to figure this zeb out. It’s pretty sketchy in steep lava rock chunk. Been messing with psi, compression, slowing coil rebound (starts packing), etc.
I’m 155lbs on 400 spring which is less than what troydons chart recommends and it has me at 26-27ish sag. I have a lighter spring coming today just to see if 30% at the shock will help balance the front end. I matched fork to same sag. I’m just trying to figure this zeb out. It’s pretty sketchy in steep lava rock chunk. Been messing with psi, compression, slowing coil rebound (starts packing), etc.
Have you tried slowing the rebound on the shock? I had that issue on different bikes in the past and slowing the shock rebound and opening the fork rebound solved it for me.
Yeah I’ve slowed it down but it gets to a point it starts packing. I have pretty demanding trails at my local. I’ll update on the lighter coil to get that 30% at the shock. It’s just odd because the last zeb I had setup so perfect and it didn’t take much. Was just curious if anyone else finding the same
I haven’t messed with ABO on the shock, it’s middle stock setting. Wonder if I should take some of that out? I have some pretty good size drops so I didn’t want to back it off
Singletrackmind
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It took me a little longer than usual to dial in my 2027 Zeb versus the previous model. Running much higher psi in new model.
I ended up buying the Slacker to adjust my sag on fork and shock, doing so with compression fully open and cycling through the travel in 25psi increments.
Was able to get a better baseline recommendations from ChatGPT than the Rockshox app.
Also played around with the ABO and have it set 4 clicks from open on my Crestline RS181.2 and 6 clicks from open on my Mondraker.
Sorry I couldn't be more specific.
Singletrackmind
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Not sure if the resolution on the pics shows what you are asking?Can anyone post photos showing how much space (if any) they have between their cranks and the motor case at the spindle? My North Shore Billet Talon cranks are advertised to work on Avinox motors but they’re bottoming out on the motor case before being fully torqued.
I ordered some cheap e13 cranks to compare the fit and to get the bike finished so I can ride… getting pretty frustrated that my new bike is still unridden and on the bike stand
I am just wrapping up my custom install and upgraded SRAM XO cranks that came stock on my Team Build with Pinnd 155mm cranks and they fit perfect!
I can try taking additional pics when I finish installing components.
John_likes_bikes
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I had my 3.1 tuned to be more linear and even then there was some getting used to the 3.2., so definitely an adjustment period. Like going from air to coil on anything. I would parking lot set the rebound to be balanced then adjust compression settings, that's where the issue seems to be for you. Try running closer to 20-22% sag on the Zeb and bracket the LSC before you swap coil weight. I'm 190 kitted and run a liter spring too, 475, and I found balance.
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Perfect, thanks! Hate the thought of milling a few mm off the back of an expensive crank so it doesn’t contact the motor case, but you gotta do what you gotta do I suppose!
In a bit of bind here… tried routing the axs power cable with a park tool routing kit and the end came loose and now I cant pull the routing kit out or push it back through to the end of the chainstay. Been struggling with this for a couple hours and really not sure where to go from here.
Singletrackmind
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Finally finished installing upgrades on my new Crestline! It's truly an International Speed Shop Team Edition with components from all over the world.
Here's the complete spec list:
Frame and Suspension Components
• Frame: Crestline RS181.2 Size RH3
• Frame Material: Carbon
• Wheel Size: 29" front/27.5" rear
• Rear Axle: 12x148mm Boost
• Rear Shock: Rockshox Vivid Ultimate
• Rear Shock Size: 205mm x 65mm
• Rear Shock Hardware: 30mm x 8mm
• Rear Suspension Travel: 181mm
• Headset: Industry Nine IRIX Custom
• Headset Standard: ZS56/28.6/ZS56
• Fork: 2027 Rockshox ZEB Ultimate 180mm (Custom Slik Graphics Decals)
• Fork Axle: 15x110mm Boost
Drivetrain & Wheelset Details
• Wheelset: Industry Nine Hydra 2. Enduro 300 Rims Black/Red spokes
• Tires: Schwalbe Albert Radial
Front - 29×2.6 Gravity Pro Soft
Rear - 27.5×2.5 Gravity Pro Ultra Soft
• Crankset: Pinnd 155mm ISIS
• Chain Ring: Ethirteen Helix Race 36t
• Chainguide: OneUp Components
• Chain: SRAM XO Transmission
• Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO Eagle AXS T-TYPE (Custom Garbaruk Derailleur Cage/Pulleys)
• Cassette: SRAM XS 1299 T-TYPE 10-52
Cockpit, Seating & Braking Systems
• Seatpost: Rockshox AXS B1-175mm
• Seat Post Diameter: 31.6mm
• Seat Post Clamp: Oaks Components 35mm
• Saddle: Ergon SM E-Mountain Pro
• Controllers: AVINOX Wireless/SRAM POD
• Handlebar: SQLab Aluminum, 4-degree upsweep, 12° backsweep, 45mm rise, 780 x 31.8mm
• Stem: Industry Nine 31.8 x 40mm
• Grips: Rev Grips Pro Series X-Large
• Brakes: Hope Tech 4 EVO GR4
• Rotors: Galfer EVO Shark Floating 223/203
• Pedals: Raceface Turbine
Motor, Battery & Usage
• Motor: Avinox M2S
• Maximum Power Output: 1500 watts
• Maximum Motor Torque: 150 Nm
• Battery: Avinox Integrated Lithium Ion Removable
• Battery Wattage: 700 Wh
Countries
• Scotland - Pinnd Cranks
• England - Hope Brakes
• Germany - SQLab Handlebar/Ergon
Saddle/Oak Component Accessories
• Poland - Garabuk Rear Derailleur Cage
• Spain - Galfer Rotors
• Vietnam - Crestline Frame/Schwalbe Tires
• China - Motor/Battery
• Tawain - SRAM Drivetrain/Dropper Post/Raceface Pedals
• USA - Industry Nine Wheels/Headset/Stem/Rev Grips
• South Africa - Troydon M. (Co-Owner/Founder)
Here's the complete spec list:
Frame and Suspension Components
• Frame: Crestline RS181.2 Size RH3
• Frame Material: Carbon
• Wheel Size: 29" front/27.5" rear
• Rear Axle: 12x148mm Boost
• Rear Shock: Rockshox Vivid Ultimate
• Rear Shock Size: 205mm x 65mm
• Rear Shock Hardware: 30mm x 8mm
• Rear Suspension Travel: 181mm
• Headset: Industry Nine IRIX Custom
• Headset Standard: ZS56/28.6/ZS56
• Fork: 2027 Rockshox ZEB Ultimate 180mm (Custom Slik Graphics Decals)
• Fork Axle: 15x110mm Boost
Drivetrain & Wheelset Details
• Wheelset: Industry Nine Hydra 2. Enduro 300 Rims Black/Red spokes
• Tires: Schwalbe Albert Radial
Front - 29×2.6 Gravity Pro Soft
Rear - 27.5×2.5 Gravity Pro Ultra Soft
• Crankset: Pinnd 155mm ISIS
• Chain Ring: Ethirteen Helix Race 36t
• Chainguide: OneUp Components
• Chain: SRAM XO Transmission
• Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO Eagle AXS T-TYPE (Custom Garbaruk Derailleur Cage/Pulleys)
• Cassette: SRAM XS 1299 T-TYPE 10-52
Cockpit, Seating & Braking Systems
• Seatpost: Rockshox AXS B1-175mm
• Seat Post Diameter: 31.6mm
• Seat Post Clamp: Oaks Components 35mm
• Saddle: Ergon SM E-Mountain Pro
• Controllers: AVINOX Wireless/SRAM POD
• Handlebar: SQLab Aluminum, 4-degree upsweep, 12° backsweep, 45mm rise, 780 x 31.8mm
• Stem: Industry Nine 31.8 x 40mm
• Grips: Rev Grips Pro Series X-Large
• Brakes: Hope Tech 4 EVO GR4
• Rotors: Galfer EVO Shark Floating 223/203
• Pedals: Raceface Turbine
Motor, Battery & Usage
• Motor: Avinox M2S
• Maximum Power Output: 1500 watts
• Maximum Motor Torque: 150 Nm
• Battery: Avinox Integrated Lithium Ion Removable
• Battery Wattage: 700 Wh
Countries
• Scotland - Pinnd Cranks
• England - Hope Brakes
• Germany - SQLab Handlebar/Ergon
Saddle/Oak Component Accessories
• Poland - Garabuk Rear Derailleur Cage
• Spain - Galfer Rotors
• Vietnam - Crestline Frame/Schwalbe Tires
• China - Motor/Battery
• Tawain - SRAM Drivetrain/Dropper Post/Raceface Pedals
• USA - Industry Nine Wheels/Headset/Stem/Rev Grips
• South Africa - Troydon M. (Co-Owner/Founder)
I would try slicing a thin tube (like heatshrink or similar) lengthwise and then feed it into the frame opening around either the cable or blue Park string to see if it will help center the ends that are stuck to then pull them out.
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