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Avinox eMTB VPN speed limit not applying despite changes

Hemu said:
Has any Wild LT owner been able to raise that speed limiter to 32 or 45km/h with vpn? I tried to connect the bike with vpn set to new zeland but can't get the assist continue over that 25km/h limit. What is my options then new speed disc or some peartune speedbox or what?
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Hi, so to confirm, you have a Wild LT that you VPN’d and it has not worked and not gone over 25kph?
Does it show the class 1 or 3 option in the menu now but stuck at 25kph?

I am just double checking, my mate has a Crestline and he just did the VPN and now has both class 1 and 3 on his menu, and it worked

I appreciate your confirmation. What country are you?

Vicki x😀
 
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dysseus said:
there is one fully e-mnt that is able to get a number plate. its the frey... a dinosaur in my eyes. a wopping 30kg without batrery.

As I am stuck in the 25kmh trap... if you want the option to unlock, go with an amflow. it has the international firmware an is therefore unlokable. don't touch anything german as I did with the steppenwolf.
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That is an interesting suggestion that people interested in Avinox (a DJI brand) motored bikes go for an Amflow (another DJI brand), due to unique international firmware. I was aware that the new Orbea Avinox equipped bike had custom Orbea firmware, but had assumed that the firmware on all the other 3rd party Avinox bikes had the same sort of firmware as the Amflows sold in their country.

So, am I correct in understanding that, for example, a person in the UK or France, who buys a bike with Avinox motor from Propain, Atherton, Teewing, etc...who then brings it to America (or uses a VPN to simulate an American location) and wants to swap to American firmware will not be able to do so, because Avinox has locked that bike down with locally specific firmware, but a person from those same countries who buys an Amflow and brings it to America (or uses a VPN to simulate an American location) will have no problem switching to American firmware?

I see reports of Crestline buyers from Europe/UK who are able to switch to American settings, but perhaps that is because Crestline is an American brand? If that is the case, I wonder about people in Europe/UK who buy a Pivot or other 3rd party American brand. Either way, that would be pretty interesting if DJI was giving a sort of unique international motor firmware capability only to buyers of Amflows, but locking buyers with 3rd party bikes down to the firmware region in which the bike was sold.
 
TheKaiser said:
That is an interesting suggestion that people interested in Avinox (a DJI brand) motored bikes go for an Amflow (another DJI brand), due to unique international firmware. I was aware that the new Orbea Avinox equipped bike had custom Orbea firmware, but had assumed that the firmware on all the other 3rd party Avinox bikes had the same sort of firmware as the Amflows sold in their country.

So, am I correct in understanding that, for example, a person in the UK or France, who buys a bike with Avinox motor from Propain, Atherton, Teewing, etc...who then brings it to America (or uses a VPN to simulate an American location) and wants to swap to American firmware will not be able to do so, because Avinox has locked that bike down with locally specific firmware, but a person from those same countries who buys an Amflow and brings it to America (or uses a VPN to simulate an American location) will have no problem switching to American firmware?

I see reports of Crestline buyers from Europe/UK who are able to switch to American settings, but perhaps that is because Crestline is an American brand? If that is the case, I wonder about people in Europe/UK who buy a Pivot or other 3rd party American brand. Either way, that would be pretty interesting if DJI was giving a sort of unique international motor firmware capability only to buyers of Amflows, but locking buyers with 3rd party bikes down to the firmware region in which the bike was sold.
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I asked my salesman exactly this since Android has often such shenanigans. He assured me there is no such thing... thanks for that 😒
 
Hol47 said:
I found the same. VPN gives you additional options in the menu but charging the speed limit does nothing in reality. Must be baked in to the firmware of these new M2S motors
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I managed to derestrict my new Amflow PX the other day, I've added the steps I took in this post...
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thebeardedfool said:
Hi gang, I’ve got the M2S in the UK, set up via VPN set to the USA and the menu reflects this with the 15/20/25 speed limit options in the menu, but in any of these, it’s still limited to 15.5 - what’s going on?! Many thanks if you can shed any light
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What bike is this pls?
 
Vicki said:
I am just double checking, my mate has a Crestline and he just did the VPN and now has both class 1 and 3 on his menu, and it worked
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@Vicki could you please ask your mate if he has to stay VPN'ed while driving also? Or just during pairing?
 
mibane said:
I 've got a Megamo M2S, vpn in New Zealand just at pairing.
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Hi!
I’m about to buy a reason AL 05.
What’s your bike firmware and app version? Did you install the app already with the vpn on? On an IPhone?
Thank you!
 
Iphone. Installed Nordvpn set to NZ, paired the bike, everything worked. Later I updated the app and two firmware updates using the VPN, just in case. Now I'm on the latest software versions and everything works perfect except that I can't upload the routes to Strava.
 
Greg Watts said:
@Frankyspec - that's the right move, Wednesday's dealer visit is where this actually gets sorted.

When you're there, the key question to ask is: "Can you sell me this bike as an S-Pedelec, and does that come with the 45km/h firmware from the factory?" That's the crux of it. In Belgium, S-Pedelec is a recognised class, so a dealer who knows their stuff should be able to advise you on what they can offer in that configuration - it's a different product category at point of sale, not a post-sale tweak.

On the Orbea side - the Orbea Wild LT runs the Avinox M2S, so the same firmware logic applies as any other Avinox bike: 45km/h is a factory firmware for S-Pedelec-class sales, not something that gets unlocked later. Ask the dealer the same question for that one too.

Your point about 25km/h on trail is completely valid, by the way. On anything with a reasonable descent or even a fast flat, you're constantly brushing that threshold and the cutoff is genuinely jarring - it's not paranoia, it's just the EU limit being a bit agricultural for actual riding. An S-Pedelec sale sorts it properly and cleanly.

One thing to confirm at the dealer: if either bike is sold as an S-Pedelec in Belgium, you'll need insurance and a licence plate - minor faff, but worth knowing before you sign anything.

Let us know what they say on Wednesday.
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In the UK if you need a licence plate and insurance etc then this will be classified as a motor vehicle such as a motorcycle etc. These vehicles are not allowed to ride on off road trails such as footpaths, bridleways etc and you would be easily spotted if your bike has a number plate. Just buy a bike with a Bosch motor and fit a dongle.
 
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