Bosch Gen 5 Rumour - More Power updates coming!
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Good to hear. I will not go for Bosch updates anymore until there is something of real interest to me. This last one here is a joke. Not all is about more power. Avinox will introduce some kind of „heart rate driving mode“:
Joecrow
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Yes interesting, with several different settings, "mild pain, "heat attack", "death"!
I think my Levo SL2 had something like this. Never used it though, so I am unsure.
Szymbrush
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Ok, so I installed a new set of brakes recently, and today was my first chance to test them out (it stopped raining…) at a quick post-work local loop. Installed the app update, and you know what? Maybe there’s no power boost, but there’s definitely an ego boost 
Out of those 6 alleged jumps two were half-assed manuals off small rollers, and two were “front wheel lost contact” kind of jumps. The remaining two maybe were “jumps”, if we’re feeling generous
But you know, I’ll take the compliments.
Also, the little instant-gratification congratulatory beep from the kiox straight after completing a trick is so silly, and so good
And yes I did a stoppie. New brakes. BEEP.
Out of those 6 alleged jumps two were half-assed manuals off small rollers, and two were “front wheel lost contact” kind of jumps. The remaining two maybe were “jumps”, if we’re feeling generous
But you know, I’ll take the compliments.
Also, the little instant-gratification congratulatory beep from the kiox straight after completing a trick is so silly, and so good
And yes I did a stoppie. New brakes. BEEP.
Zee Germans don't do anything quickly.
Seems like they are pretty quickly losing their foothold on the emtb market.
Hey, hey……hey……………waaaaaaiiiiiiit………
Bogdan_CH
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The Oso Launch basically confirmed the update .
I'm sorry for hacking the thread but looking at it compared to the Zendit, the super thin downtube fades away a bit when put side to side .
I know its 600wh vs 800 wh but for Bosch you can do the powermore trick when needed.
I'm sorry for hacking the thread but looking at it compared to the Zendit, the super thin downtube fades away a bit when put side to side .
I know its 600wh vs 800 wh but for Bosch you can do the powermore trick when needed.
curufinwe_wins
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Increased torque wouldnt help one bit anyways. (Even 85nm is too much)
The 600% though... thats actually a really big deal in terms of day to day liveability. It's still not close to class leading ofc, but max assist % is the thing that people actually feel when they associate a motors strength or weakness.
That Ibis isn't as ugly as the old one, but it's still not pretty either.
The dw layout is just flat out unattractive, aesthetically and performance wise.
It's a pity mondraker isn't releasing a frame only option in that bronze colour. The green isn't bad, but the top tier xr isn't really as nice in blue.
TheMirrorVision
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Bosch needs to channel the spirit of blitzkrieg (in a positive way
) to catch up and stay in the discussion for the next year as I would not be surprised if Avinox starts to churn out annual hardware and software updates that aim to leave the competition behind.
Mario Antony
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Bosch controls most city ebikes.Bosch needs to channel the spirit of blitzkrieg (in a positive way
It's their bread and butter.
eMTB is important... but on their +50B USD / year, it must be less than 10 or 20%
I don’t know… Blitzkrieg comes to mind.
Well I was thinking of more in an engineering sense that the Germans are very deliberate and thorough and the Chinese are less risk-averse and quicker to implement changes.
TheKaiser
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I agree that if they want to get spec on bikes with Sram, that would be a no-brainer. Having said that, my understanding is that they offer the same type of functions already with Shimano Di2 so if you are flexible on your component brand then Bosch bikes can have the derailleur powered by the ebike battery, along with coast shift, auto power reduction during shifts, etc... Just wanted to remind anyone who wasn't aware of that.
Just wanted to add that the Bosch CX Gen 5 already supports SRAM derailleurs powered directly by the e-bike battery. For some reason this isn't always implemented, but for instance, my Trek Rail+ 9.8 GX has it. Currently, Bosch hasn't released the Auto Shift or Coast Shift features for SRAM, but hopefully these will be added some day via a future software update.
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Unfortunately not on a bosch gen 5 equipped yeti lte
and I've yet to find a lbs showing any real interest or will to do what I'd like, activate the spare power ports for a front light and the rear sram derailleur. Might well be that none are yeti dealers 
and due to the dealer I bought the bike not dealing with yeti anymore, my nearest yeti dealer is 2.5-3 hours away.HammerAndCycle
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A couple of people can do this remotely for you useing bosch dealer software for less than 50 euros.Unfortunately not on a bosch gen 5 equipped yeti lte
baffobaffone
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I know that the industry magazines are testing the update, this is what they assured me, they did not specify the power which is presumed to be 120Nm.
curufinwe_wins
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Meanwhile I've been bitching and moaning to Avinox support day in and day out for 18mo+ to get them to:Bosch needs to channel the spirit of blitzkrieg (in a positive way
A) Actually release the front light in NA
B) Add garmin integration (last conversation said this was in the works)
C) Add Di2 integration just like sram.
The current gen Di2 has some serious benefits for ebikes beyond what SRAM is offering (linkglide is unparalleled durability, cheaper parts, particularly cassette, and the 9T option is a huge deal for eMTB gearing, equivalent to a 40/10 with standard 36 front compatibility) and obviously bosch already has this so please just get it going Avinox.
OT: I have to imagine that SRAM is working on a wide ratio, durable all steel, 9-11sp with a mid cage hard wired electronic derailleur specifically for e-bikes that probably displays what gear you are in on the display.
The current 12-speed Transmission is really an absurd solution.
This would inspire me to upgrade from my current WheelTop electronic derailleur & SRAM 11sp cassette. That derailleur took a moment for me to get dialed in but it's perfect now.
As far as these new power levels coming up, unless you already have an 800wh battery, or they're going to offer more dense batteries that we can retrofit in place of 600s, I just don't see the point.
The current 12-speed Transmission is really an absurd solution.
This would inspire me to upgrade from my current WheelTop electronic derailleur & SRAM 11sp cassette. That derailleur took a moment for me to get dialed in but it's perfect now.
As far as these new power levels coming up, unless you already have an 800wh battery, or they're going to offer more dense batteries that we can retrofit in place of 600s, I just don't see the point.
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Interesting that they would wait all the way until the end of May. Seems like they are not doing a very good job of keeping it secret. Wonder why they don't make an announcement.
In other news, I just rode my gen 5 e bike for the first time since the Amflow release (still prefer my regular bike most days) and it now feels woefully inadequate all the sudden
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