Atherton s170e vs Orbea Wild LT

[Gj1975]

As the title suggests I am considering the above two bikes.
I actually have the Orbea on preorder. (M10 mullet)
Have dug as much as I can into reviews. Almost all seem to say both have great traction, wild a bit lighter, bit more poppy, Atherton faster ground hugging.
Both have get resoundingly positive reviews.

The reduced power tuned approach of the Orbea is interesting. Vs the industrial design and full power of the Atherton

My riding style would suit both. I used to describe it as endure the ups to enjoy the downs, but that seems to have passed with the advent of Emtb. Bike will get used for everything from power laps on local trails to BPW and maybe I’ll put my big boy pants on and go to Dyfi. (Have that trip planned for the r new year).

My current bike is an Orbea Rise.
Obviously shorter travel and lighter than both bikes, but frequently find myself pushing that bikes limits.

Thoughts appreciated

 

[Powerslider]

Do you find much value in Atherton's more granular sizing?

 

[Gj1975]

Do you find much value in Atherton's more granular sizing?

Difficult to assess as not had opportunity to ride an Atherton, but from what I have read it is generally well received

 

[Powerslider]

Difficult to assess as not had opportunity to ride an Atherton, but from what I have read it is generally well received

This isn’t a slight, but it sounds like you’re not highly opinionated on sizing. Atherton has more sizes available than most, but i acknowledge if someone falls perfectly into standard Orbea size it is kind of irrelevant.

 

[Gj1975]

This isn’t a slight, but it sounds like you’re not highly opinionated on sizing. Atherton has more sizes available than most, but i acknowledge if someone falls perfectly into standard Orbea size it is kind of irrelevant.

I have used their sizing tool, it suggests size 8. Got no reason to dispute that. Have an Orbea Rise and know that their Medium sizing fits me well enough. While the Atherton approach to sizing I do think is a positive, it’s not enough to drive the decision.

 

[ntm95]

The orbea has a vastly superior f/r ratio in medium.
The atherton in size 8 is close to 1.9, those are 2017 numbers...

 

[Jaarkeal]

I'm glad someone else is considering these bikes as they are top of my list too.
I'm 190cm so puts me between L and XL on rise but size 12 on Atherton bike. I'm testing their size 11 tomorrow as I like an ever so slightly smaller bike than recommended. This then causes brain ache with the Wild. An L with longer stem or XL with shorter stem/ roll bars/ flip chip etc, etc.
I'm hoping the Atherton is just get on it and ride!!!
I do local trails (Surrey Hills) and Bike Parks so for trails probably over bike and parks, perfect?
I've seen 'Rob Rides' video on Wild and an XL for him didn't fit right so he's trying an L and he's 190cm(I think) but................
When spending £7k I think it needs to be right.

 

[ntm95]

I'm glad someone else is considering these bikes as they are top of my list too.
I'm 190cm so puts me between L and XL on rise but size 12 on Atherton bike. I'm testing their size 11 tomorrow as I like an ever so slightly smaller bike than recommended. This then causes brain ache with the Wild. An L with longer stem or XL with shorter stem/ roll bars/ flip chip etc, etc.
I'm hoping the Atherton is just get on it and ride!!!
I do local trails (Surrey Hills) and Bike Parks so for trails probably over bike and parks, perfect?
I've seen 'Rob Rides' video on Wild and an XL for him didn't fit right so he's trying an L and he's 190cm(I think) but................
When spending £7k I think it needs to be right.

At your height, I wouldn't be looking at either of these bikes, as they're both quite compromised in the xl sizes for balance.

 

[Jaarkeal]

At your height, I wouldn't be looking at either of these bikes, as they're both quite compromised in the xl sizes for balance.

What would you recommend?

 

[ntm95]

What would you recommend?

I'm pretty biased, but an e-dreadnought would be the top of the list for me if I were either shopping for a small or xl, due to the their properly proportional f/r ratios. And the bike rips. Hard to find them though.

 

[Suns_PSD]

I'm pretty biased, but an e-dreadnought would be the top of the list for me if I were either shopping for a small or xl, due to the their properly proportional f/r ratios. And the bike rips. Hard to find them though.

Agreed.

 

[zerofunds]

I'm trying to decide between the Wild LT and the Mondraker Zendit

 

[High Rock Ruti]

As the title suggests I am considering the above two bikes.
I actually have the Orbea on preorder. (M10 mullet)
Have dug as much as I can into reviews. Almost all seem to say both have great traction, wild a bit lighter, bit more poppy, Atherton faster ground hugging.
Both have get resoundingly positive reviews.

The reduced power tuned approach of the Orbea is interesting. Vs the industrial design and full power of the Atherton

My riding style would suit both. I used to describe it as endure the ups to enjoy the downs, but that seems to have passed with the advent of Emtb. Bike will get used for everything from power laps on local trails to BPW and maybe I’ll put my big boy pants on and go to Dyfi. (Have that trip planned for the r new year).

My current bike is an Orbea Rise.
Obviously shorter travel and lighter than both bikes, but frequently find myself pushing that bikes limits.

Thoughts appreciated

High Rock Ruti

Perhaps I've missed it, but I can't find a riding review of Atherton other than an Atherton being the rider, a ton of reviewers standing beside the bike singing it's praises, no one riding it, do I remember correctly that the first run is 50 bikes?

I own beautiful Pole gold bomber, cracked rear linkages, no replacements not even an answer by email, lest Leo himself reminding me that the "warranty" is void because of Bankruptcy, a $10,000. Brick

 

[Gj1975]

High Rock Ruti

Perhaps I've missed it, but I can't find a riding review of Atherton other than an Atherton being the rider, a ton of reviewers standing beside the bike singing it's praises, no one riding it, do I remember correctly that the first run is 50 bikes?

I own beautiful Pole gold bomber, cracked rear linkages, no replacements not even an answer by email, lest Leo himself reminding me that the "warranty" is void because of Bankruptcy, a $10,000. Brick

New Atherton S.170E on test: an eMTB on Atherton terms

Atherton S.170E on test: 180/170 mm travel, Avinox M2S motor and DW suspension. A no-compromise eMTB with racing DNA.

ebike-mtb.com

 

[Eckythump]

I haven’t seen a proper review yet. Even the MBR & MBUK videos which are the closest, are more about how the reporters survived the hardcore trails Dan A. led them down rather than how the bike performed. There wasn’t even very much said about how they went in the bike park.
Credit has to go to Atherton for making sure the bikes are going straight into the hands of payed up customers rather than them having to wait for a fleet of bikes to go out to reviewers & influencers before the orders were fulfilled.

 

[Gj1975]

I'm glad someone else is considering these bikes as they are top of my list too.
I'm 190cm so puts me between L and XL on rise but size 12 on Atherton bike. I'm testing their size 11 tomorrow as I like an ever so slightly smaller bike than recommended. This then causes brain ache with the Wild. An L with longer stem or XL with shorter stem/ roll bars/ flip chip etc, etc.
I'm hoping the Atherton is just get on it and ride!!!
I do local trails (Surrey Hills) and Bike Parks so for trails probably over bike and parks, perfect?
I've seen 'Rob Rides' video on Wild and an XL for him didn't fit right so he's trying an L and he's 190cm(I think) but................
When spending £7k I think it needs to be right.

Would love a ride report on the Atherton!! Where are you testing?

 

[Jaarkeal]

Would love a ride report on the Atherton!! Where are you testing?

I must admit I was a little concerned over geo as it’s not like the decoy I’m presently riding in an XL. According to their sizing I am a 12. But the test bike was an 11. I loved it. Stable, fast, cornered well and felt plush. Was only on Cli-Machx at Dyfi plus a little off piste area I found through the woods on steeper stuff. But handled every well. For me I would try a slightly larger stem by maybe 10mm and/or higher rise bars but may stick with originals also. Only issue. If you order now it’s mid October delivery!!!

 

[Eckythump]

I must admit I was a little concerned over geo as it’s not like the decoy I’m presently riding in an XL. According to their sizing I am a 12. But the test bike was an 11. I loved it. Stable, fast, cornered well and felt plush. Was only on Cli-Machx at Dyfi plus a little off piste area I found through the woods on steeper stuff. But handled every well. For me I would try a slightly larger stem by maybe 10mm and/or higher rise bars but may stick with originals also. Only issue. If you order now it’s mid October delivery!!!

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You must have been pretty cramped on your Decoy. I have an XL Decoy and have swapped to a size 9 S170e. 185cm height.

 

[Powerslider]

I think this bike is really sharp looking. Well priced too. I might have ordered one if they were available in the US now.

 

[ntm95]

I think this bike is really sharp looking. Well priced too. I might have ordered one if they were available in the US now.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

 

[Gj1975]

I must admit I was a little concerned over geo as it’s not like the decoy I’m presently riding in an XL. According to their sizing I am a 12. But the test bike was an 11. I loved it. Stable, fast, cornered well and felt plush. Was only on Cli-Machx at Dyfi plus a little off piste area I found through the woods on steeper stuff. But handled every well. For me I would try a slightly larger stem by maybe 10mm and/or higher rise bars but may stick with originals also. Only issue. If you order now it’s mid October delivery!!!

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Thanks for the report.

October turn around is not that bad. Depending on model some shops are quoting between March and August next year for the Wild
I have an October slot for an M10 but considering swapping to the Atherton.

 

[Jaarkeal]

Thanks for the report.

October turn around is not that bad. Depending on model some shops are quoting between March and August next year for the Wild
I have an October slot for an M10 but considering swapping to the Atherton.

Try a test ride. Spending £7k plus has to be worth it.

 

[ntm95]

Try a test ride. Spending £7k plus has to be worth it.

This.
Or at least ride an a170 first to get a taste for the general geo.

 

[James_MTB]

The 800wh battery will give you more mileage.

A riding buddy has just got the Atherton; he's concerned about the 700 Wh battery's range.

 

[Jaarkeal]

The 800wh battery will give you more mileage.

A riding buddy has just got the Atherton; he's concerned about the 700 Wh battery's range.

 

[Jaarkeal]

There will always seemingly be a compromise until this or that comes out later. A friend of mine had the Amflow with 700w battery and goes further than his brother on a new Bosch with 800w. Both he and the bike are lighter so that may help. I’ve decided to get the Atherton, enjoy what I have now. By the sounds of it CVT/gearbox bikes will be out next year. Should I wait? No. I’ve got too much riding to do before then!!!! Enjoy whatever you get.

 

[Eckythump]

There will always seemingly be a compromise until this or that comes out later. A friend of mine had the Amflow with 700w battery and goes further than his brother on a new Bosch with 800w. Both he and the bike are lighter so that may help. I’ve decided to get the Atherton, enjoy what I have now. By the sounds of it CVT/gearbox bikes will be out next year. Should I wait? No. I’ve got too much riding to do before then!!!! Enjoy whatever you get.

I’m getting further than the 720wh battery on my e8000 Decoy with detuned 700wh Atherton. Assistance is still higher than the Shimano bike so seeing improvement in efficiency. I will have to see if the fast charging will make up for not being able to swap batteries.

 

[Gj1975]

I haven’t seen a proper review yet. Even the MBR & MBUK videos which are the closest, are more about how the reporters survived the hardcore trails Dan A. led them down rather than how the bike performed. There wasn’t even very much said about how they went in the bike park.
Credit has to go to Atherton for making sure the bikes are going straight into the hands of payed up customers rather than them having to wait for a fleet of bikes to go out to reviewers & influencers before the orders were fulfilled.

New Atherton S.170E on test: an eMTB on Atherton terms

Atherton S.170E on test: 180/170 mm travel, Avinox M2S motor and DW suspension. A no-compromise eMTB with racing DNA.

ebike-mtb.com

 

[Gj1975]

The orbea has a vastly superior f/r ratio in medium.
The atherton in size 8 is close to 1.9, those are 2017 numbers...

I must admit I am not the type of rider who can scan a geo chart and work out if the bike is good for me or if the numbers work. But…. I’m pretty sure the Athertons know a little more about the numbers than I do… and Dan rides a size 8 apparently

 

[Plummet]

A heavy ugly expensive glued together frame? No fucken way would i touch the Atherton.

My vote, orbea all the way.