Velduro Rogue 170/165 mullet Enduro with DJI

[sethimus]

Hi, that is 100% incorrect. There is a new All Mountain bike, The Velduro Vandal that will be premiered at the Malverns Festival this year and available next year, but there is not yet a firm dateline for the launch.

If anyone is going to be racing their Rogue in the Malverns Velduro sponsored enduro event, please email us, [email protected] and let us know.
If you give us your jersey size we will have one waiting for you to pick up from our stand. (With our compliments!)

when can we expect the avinox mg version?

 

[MarioC]

I’ve designed a rear fender for the Velduro Rogue, and it’s available for free to anyone who wants it.
It can be printed in two pieces and, once installed using three zip ties, it stays firmly in place.

You can download it here:

https://makerworld.com/es/models/3036709-rear-fender-for-the-velduro-rogue-mtb

Edit: Printed in Bambu Lab AMS TPU with fantastic results.

 

[Damo888]

Yeah, I really like them. I looked at Berd spokes also, but the PiRope concept convinced me way more. It's a small approachable company with very nice support. I spoke with them because at the beginning I wanted to have specific rims, and they were willing to accommodate me. In the end I went with their standard Aluminum rims (I worked in composite research for a while and know the failure modes. I will never ride composite rims, just a no go with my sloppy riding style). Those were less than 1k€, and with full approval for enduro use they are still lighter than many carbon rim competitors. If you are brave enough for carbon rims you can choose from a wide variety of rims and shave even more weight, but also easily double the price. And you can get the spokes in a lot of different colors, for the eye candy.

Are you running carbon RF bars?

 

[Velduro UK]

A quick update, the container has been unloaded from the ship and is now at our Chorley warehouse. The bikes and frames are being prep'd today and will be collected by Cycle Courier tomorrow and on Wednesday for delivery through out the UK this week.

Next container arrives later this month.

 

[Adyzakydany]

A quick update, the container has been unloaded from the ship and is now at our Chorley warehouse. The bikes and frames are being prep'd today and will be collected by Cycle Courier tomorrow and on Wednesday for delivery through out the UK this week.

Next container arrives later this month.

That's awesome news, thank you for the update. PM'd

 

[MarioC]

My attempts to repair the loose idler pulley with bearing retaining compound have failed.. While I wait for the warranty replacement, which may have to travel halfway around the world to reach Spain, I’m looking for alternatives. I found that the idler pulley from the 2022 Cannondale Jekyll has the same tooth profile and uses a 6903 bearing, 3 mm narrower than the 6903 used on the Velduro. The bearing is retained by a lip/shoulder on one side and a circlip on the other, which is a much more secure solution. If the new pulley is wider than the original in the area that contacts the bearing, it may rub against the chain guide, but I can make a modified chain guide using 3D printing.. NSB makes very good-looking aluminum and steel pulleys for the Jekyll under part number NSB IP0013. I’ve ordered one from a European distributor, so at least I should be able to use the bike until the warranty replacement arrives.

 

[DMR Dave]

I’ve designed a rear fender for the Velduro Rogue, and it’s available for free to anyone who wants it.
It can be printed in two pieces and, once installed using three zip ties, it stays firmly in place.

You can download it here:

https://makerworld.com/es/models/3036709-rear-fender-for-the-velduro-rogue-mtb

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Cool, will likely get on this. Although, I have seen one a Facebook group that someone has designed a guard to mount to the chainstay/lower bridge to guard the motor/lower area and that looks tempting too. I'm no designer but it would be to incorporate the 2.

 

[HiGer]

Are you running carbon RF bars?

Yes. New for me with this bike, so please don't ask if I like them or not, I can not rate them individually. But they are not giving me any issues.

 

[MarioC]

Cool, will likely get on this. Although, I have seen one a Facebook group that someone has designed a guard to mount to the chainstay/lower bridge to guard the motor/lower area and that looks tempting too. I'm no designer but it would be to incorporate the 2.

I think this fender already covers that area, so the other piece isn’t necessary. In fact, in my honest opinion, it could cause mud to build up.

 

[HiGer]

.... Although, I have seen one a Facebook group that someone has designed a guard to mount to the chainstay/lower bridge to guard the motor/lower area ....

Do you have a link? Can't seem to find it.

 

[DMR Dave]

Do you have a link? Can't seem to find it.

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[HiGer]

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More riding less cleaning!!!

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Thanks for the link. Not exactly what I was looking for though. I want to have a little flap that mounts to the seattube to prevent stones etc. to get in between the bridge of the chain stays and the seattube. To prevent the "nut cracker effect" when going through the travel of the rear triangle. Because if the nut is a stone the nutcracker might loose....

 

[slickrock]

Mine is a very early XL - 203mm post mounts. No option for 200mm disks.

Need to revisit this. I'm building out my small Rogue and installed rear MT7s with MDR-P 203mm rotors and the rotor is clearly grinding against the calipers and the bite trails from the pads are practically touching the deltil alloy section of the rotor and leaving the top edge of the rotor untouched. This really points to Rogue mounts as being 200mm, instead of 203mm, at least in my case. No choice at this point but to add spacers (or swap rotors). We need to figure out if the mounts differ based on bike size or fabrication run as many 203mm Rogues are out there.

 

[Adyzakydany]

Need to revisit this. I'm building out my small Rogue and installed rear MT7s with MDR-P 203mm rotors and the rotor is clearly grinding against the calipers and the bite trails from the pads are practically touching the deltil alloy section of the rotor and leaving the top edge of the rotor untouched. This really points to Rogue mounts as being 200mm, instead of 203mm, at least in my case. No choice at this point but to add spacers (or swap rotors). We need to figure out if the mounts differ based on bike size or fabrication run as many 203mm Rogues are out there.

They are 200mm without any spacers/washers. If you are running 203mm then use the appropriate washers.

What size frame was your last bike and how tall are you? I’m 165cm and have opted for the small frame, usually ride mediums

 

[slickrock]

They are 200mm without any spacers/washers. If you are running 203mm then use the appropriate washers.

What size frame was your last bike and how tall are you? I’m 165cm and have opted for the small frame, usually ride mediums

Go back through this thread and you will find a fair amount of posts claiming 203mm for the Rogue, which flew in the face of the original specs, so messages are conflicting. I was actually relaying this info in prior posts based on those posts and may have contributed to the confusion. Has velduro.nz or velduro.uk put out an official stance on this?

I'm 167.5cm and just trying out the bike and haven't dialed it in, but very initial impressions are this is the right size for me. I'm coming from a K1 Sonni, and that has steep head angle of 80 deg, so playing with saddle position to get it into a similar pallpark.

 

[Mikects]

Go back through this thread and you will find a fair amount of posts claiming 203mm for the Rogue, which flew in the face of the original specs, so messages are conflicting. I was actually relaying this info in prior posts based on those posts and may have contributed to the confusion. Has velduro.nz or velduro.uk put out an official stance on this?

I'm 167.5cm and just trying out the bike and haven't dialed it in, but very initial impressions are this is the right size for me. I'm coming from a K1 Sonni, and that has steep head angle of 80 deg, so playing with saddle position to get it into a similar pallpark.

Velduro HO confirmed by email that some frames had 203mm posts and offered to provide a 203mm disk and new pads for those affected.


Dear Velduro Rogue Frameset Customer,





We have recently been made aware of an issue regarding the rear brake post mounts on some of the Rogue frame sets being machined to fit a 203mm rotor and not a 200mm rotor as specified. As this causes brake pad overhang and reduced contact if a 200mm rotor is installed, it is an urgent issue to resolve, so we have taken immediate action, as below:



We have sourced a WFIX BatFly 203mm rotor from Italian brand Braking.com that is of a higher spec than the SRAM 200mm rotors supplied - several have been installed by dealers already and perform amazingly. If you or your bike builder could check your rear rotor/caliper wear and let us know if you have this issue. As soon as stock arrives (1-2 weeks) we will send out rotors and replacement Maven pads (used pads need replacing as they will have overhang lips from the 200mm rotor use). Please also let us know your delivery address details. Velduro will also cover any workshop time charged for the swap over. We sincerely apologize for this issue and look forward to having it fully resolved.





Regards,



The Velduro Team

 

[esmiralda_h]

Danke für den Link. Allerdings nicht gerade das, war ich gesucht habe. Ich möchte eine kleine Klappe haben, die am Seattube befestigt wird, um zu verhindern, dass Steine usw. zwischen den Steg der Kettenstreben und das Seattube gelangen. Um den "Nut-Cracker-Effekt" beim Durchfahren des Fahrwegs des Hinterdreiecks zu Verhindern. Denn wenn die Nuss ein Stein ist, Könignte sich der Nussknacker Lösen..

Mudhugger frx mini

 

[deanFBM]

Got a medium on demo, got the tape measure out, a few observations....

It's mx setup. 180mm rockshox Zeb.

First I measured with the wheel size flip chip in 27.5, prog shock chip.

BB height and stack perfectly align with the spec sheet.

Chain stay measures 435mm so shorter, which makes sense if the geo chart is for 29er and considering the rearward axle path.

Reach measures quite a bit longer, derived in two different ways, the reach comes in at approx 478mm.

HA was steeper at closer to 64*.

BB drop was less than stated.

Wheelbase was basically as stated.

I believe this all ties up because the reach has added wheelbase, then the HA and chain stay has taken away.

Putting the flip chip in the 29 position, HA is closer 63*, BB height is lower than stated but BB drop is a match. CS grows to ~442mm, reach decreases to ~460mm, stack increases ~4mm. Wheelbase grows to 1265mm.

Interesting to know.

 

[slickrock]

Velduro HO confirmed by email that some frames had 203mm posts and offered to provide a 203mm disk and new pads for those affected.


Dear Velduro Rogue Frameset Customer,





We have recently been made aware of an issue regarding the rear brake post mounts on some of the Rogue frame sets being machined to fit a 203mm rotor and not a 200mm rotor as specified. As this causes brake pad overhang and reduced contact if a 200mm rotor is installed, it is an urgent issue to resolve, so we have taken immediate action, as below:



We have sourced a WFIX BatFly 203mm rotor from Italian brand Braking.com that is of a higher spec than the SRAM 200mm rotors supplied - several have been installed by dealers already and perform amazingly. If you or your bike builder could check your rear rotor/caliper wear and let us know if you have this issue. As soon as stock arrives (1-2 weeks) we will send out rotors and replacement Maven pads (used pads need replacing as they will have overhang lips from the 200mm rotor use). Please also let us know your delivery address details. Velduro will also cover any workshop time charged for the swap over. We sincerely apologize for this issue and look forward to having it fully resolved.





Regards,



The Velduro Team

So there are different brake boss lengths out there. Sounds like the the 203mm version was anomalous and the new baseline 200mm. If frame ordering, might be worth getting a 203mm rotor and adding spacers if it's actually 200mm than getting a 200mm rotor to find it unusable. Unless Velduro has can confirm that from a given serial number run, that the bikes are back to 200mm spec.

 

[Suns_PSD]

This company is all over the place with their geo, specs, build quality, etc.

 

[sethimus]

This company is all over the place with their geo, specs, build quality, etc.

go ride your bike. oh, i forgot. you can't.

 

[GoneRogue]

So there are different brake boss lengths out there. Sounds like the the 203mm version was anomalous and the new baseline 200mm. If frame ordering, might be worth getting a 203mm rotor and adding spacers if it's actually 200mm than getting a 200mm rotor to find it unusable. Unless Velduro has can confirm that from a given serial number run, that the bikes are back to 200mm spec.

The original m1 shipments had the incorrect 203mm posts, everything now (m2s) has the intended 200mm posts.

A lot of misinformation is spread here.

I’ve found Dean @ Velduro Australia top notch to deal with

 

[cozzy]

The original m1 shipments had the incorrect 203mm posts, everything now (m2s) has the intended 200mm posts.

A lot of misinformation is spread here.

I’ve found Dean @ Velduro Australia top notch to deal with

Not quite. The initial uk April m2s batch had 203mm. The incoming batch are supposed to be 200mm
As velduro uk mentioned earlier in the thread, check with your local importer to verify.
Or just buy a 220mm rotor then a 17 or 20 adapter to suit

 

[action99]

Same for Switzerland, first two batches were 203mm. Not sure the new ones how they are.

 

[Velduro UK]

Same for Switzerland, first two batches were 203mm. Not sure the new ones how they are.

Good afternoon everyone.

I can confirm that the 203mm's were only on the fist container into the UK. The container that has just arrived and on all future deliveries, frames will be set up for 200mm, and full builds will have 200mm pre-installed.

 

[Adyzakydany]

Good afternoon everyone.

I can confirm that the 203mm's were only on the fist container into the UK. The container that has just arrived and on all future deliveries, frames will be set up for 200mm, and full builds will have 200mm pre-installed.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[MarioC]

The North Shore Billet toothed idler pulley for the Cannondale Jekyll 2 can be used on the Velduro Rogue with a SRAM T-Type chainring, even though it’s eccentric. You just need to compensate with about 2.75 mm of shims (mine are on the way from AliExpress), since its Enduro bearing is slightly narrower.

There is also a steel version, but it’s very difficult to find in stock.

 

[sethimus]

Good afternoon everyone.

I can confirm that the 203mm's were only on the fist container into the UK. The container that has just arrived and on all future deliveries, frames will be set up for 200mm, and full builds will have 200mm pre-installed.

if one would buy the 450 stays, those would always be pm 200 too, right?

 

[ironfist]

The North Shore Billet toothed idler pulley for the Cannondale Jekyll 2 can be used on the Velduro Rogue with a SRAM T-Type chainring, even though it’s eccentric. You just need to compensate with about 2.75 mm of shims (mine are on the way from AliExpress), since its Enduro bearing is slightly narrower.

There is also a steel version, but it’s very difficult to find in stock.





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Isn’t the idler pulley something that velduro uk should keep in stock as a consumable part?

 

[MarioC]

I’m in Spain, and my local distributor hasn’t received (or ordered) the idler pulley as a spare part yet. I have to wait until they get it in stock.

Isn’t the idler pulley something that velduro uk should keep in stock as a consumable part?