2027 Orbea Wild LT Released - Avinox Powered

[Yotaismygame]

Hopefully someday we'll just have a switch on a single charger so that we can choose the charging rate. I'm using a 2A charger and honestly, it's really slow! Not an issue so far but I could see it being a problem eventually.

That would be legit. I don't care how slow it is at home. For shimano stuff its 2a and 4a options.

 

[Yotaismygame]

Wouldn't this RS tune use more battery? The app already warns by turning up all the power delivery options it will use more battery.

 

[b33k34]

I’m guessing the remote kind of limits bar options to ones that have a cable hole? Wonder what the plug side looks like and how big the hole in the bars has to be. I guess could run through headset too but would have the other wire there.

it looks like the same Orbea bar as on the Rise. The centre hole is bigger than the one in the Shimano/Pro bar because it needed to fit the cable connector on the Rise and not just the plug on the end of the Shimano shifter cable. Position was different too as it came out behind the stem rather than to the right side of the stem where the shimano display normally goes.

This one seems like a good bang for buck, £7479

The M10 model in all Orbea's seems to be the sweet spot of 'nothing you'd want to change but nothing too fancy'

is the RS tune just a more responsive start? I actually like the current power delivery and think it's a strength of the Avinox. It's what gives that smooth natural feeling.

I'm intrigued that it's not just a setting in the app - it kind of sounds like they've just upped the assistance setting here
https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/avinox-motor-tuning-tips-thread.43389/ but Rob says it feels different.

For me reducing the natural feel and making it more Bosch like is a negative anyway.

 

[Cell4soul]

I think I am going to order one or see what allotment my LBS is getting. Somewhere between the M20 and doing several upgrades or the M10 and doing a few upgrades. With either, I think I’ll run an 11 speed DI2 drivetrain. Does anyone know if and when Avinox will allow for Smoothshift with Shimano as they already do with AXS?

 

[sethimus]

Can't wait to hear more about this beast but I'm also still glad I have my '26 Wild.

wait, you have a bosch wild? why haven't you mentioned that before?

 

[b33k34]

No. Around here at least it seems like the 12A is hard on batteries. 4A is plenty fast for charging at home. I have both and only use the fast during lunch breaks on big days. But including both would be nice.

It's a £139 cost option on the order customisation and I'm guessing dealers will be able to supply what you want on their stock.

Fast charging is definitely a bonus for me but I get what you're saying. It's a shame they didn't go the whole hog and make the charger switchable so you only fast charged when you actually needed it but I'd not realised the chargers had become reasonably priced - looks like th 4A is only £70. (I thought they were a lot more than that - it was more than that just for the cable for the range extender as a spare on the Rise)

 

[Yotaismygame]

Sick bike no doubt. 170mm rear is nice for someone like myself. But aluminum to aluminum im still glad I went with the Ekano 3

 

[Yotaismygame]

Has a weight been posted for the LT H-10?

 

[Powerslider]

So did you get a deposit in then?

I know of a M20 Large in Magic Gold you can buy right now and have at a fair price very soon.

I'm still learning about it Suns! The M-TEAM RS Mullet is* the immediate front runner in the 'my next bike' competition though. I'm
not sure if I'd spec the 180 or 170 fork; and what Myo colorway I'd go with yet.

* conditioned on Class 3 capability. Concerning that Orbea lists the bike as "20 mph."

 

[Suns_PSD]

Wouldn't this RS tune use more battery? The app already warns by turning up all the power delivery options it will use more battery.

Orbea claims the RS tune uses about 25% LESS watt hours of battery juice actually.

 

[Entonox]

Orbea claims the RS tune uses about 25% LESS watt hours of battery juice actually.

They'll be gauging that on the 750W limit surely.

 

[Powerslider]

@Rob Rides EMTB can you confirm there's Class 3 capability? The "20 mph" labeling fosters doubt.

 

[Powerslider]

They'll be gauging that on the 750W limit surely.

Perhaps, but their claim provides evidence of increased efficiency at any power level.

 

[Yotaismygame]

Orbea claims the RS tune uses about 25% LESS watt hours of battery juice actually.

Hard to believe even at 750 watts. So far I've been riding mine consistently under 90/600. Except for random quick high power races up logging roads. Which are crazy!

 

[Yotaismygame]

Perhaps, but their claim provides evidence of increased efficiency at any power level.

Something has to give then. You can't tell me the motor is more sensitive and aggressive and also state is uses less battery. Unless something else is turned down or the ramp up drops power up top etc etc

 

[Brawwp]

Orbea claims the RS tune uses about 25% LESS watt hours of battery juice actually.

Stock auto is already 750w max and 130nm torque. If they are claiming more power then I don’t see how this is possible. Maybe 25% less if you were to set auto to 1300w max, but the stock auto setting is set to 750

 

[John_likes_bikes]

Something has to give then. You can't tell me the motor is more sensitive and aggressive and also state is uses less battery. Unless something else is turned down or the ramp up drops power up top etc etc

Maybe based on a person weighing 100 lbs? I'm being sarcastic obviously but I can't think of another variable.

Also, using percentages is a time-honored old trick of bullshittery in advertising.

 

[Redlemon]

I'm still learning about it Suns! The M-TEAM RS Mullet is* the immediate front runner in the 'my next bike' competition though. I'm
not sure if I'd spec the 180 or 170 fork; and what Myo colorway I'd go with yet.

* conditioned on Class 3 capability. Concerning that Orbea lists the bike as "20 mph."

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Some of these colors are sick! I like that Seaweed color below. I wonder what's the delay to receive a MyO Wild LT ?

M10 build is on point for the price, Orbea is very smart to save on the drivetrain with mechanical XT and spec Fox Factory suspensions, they nailed the builds & prices.

Not sure about the wheels, H1900 vs Oquo MC32 Team Power, looks like the MC32 might be a little bit more burly.

 

[Celada13]

Some of these colors are sick! I like that Seaweed color below. I wonder what's the delay to receive a MyO Wild LT ?

M10 build is on point for the price, Orbea is very smart to save on the drivetrain with mechanical XT and spec Fox Factory suspensions, they nailed the builds & prices.

Not sure about the wheels, H1900 vs Oquo MC32 Team Power, looks like the MC32 might be a little bit more burly.


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Oquo for sure. That DT H1900 aren't ready for enduro use & abuse!

 

[Powerslider]

The MX size Large wheelbase spec is loooong at 1288mm. My S4 Levo 4 in long (444mm) chainstay setting has a 1233mm wheelbase! Plus 55mm is a bit concerning for where I ride. The 73,6º seat tube is a a lot more slack than anything I've been considering too. Might need to demo a Wild before I'm ready to order.

This video from Hawes (even just the first 20 seconds) provides context for my concern about the long wheelbase.

 

[ntm95]

The MX size Large wheelbase spec is loooong at 1288mm. My S4 Levo 4 in long (444mm) chainstay setting has a 1233mm wheelbase! Plus 55mm is a bit concerning for where I ride. The 73,6º seat tube is a a lot more slack than anything I've been considering too. Might need to demo a Wild before I'm ready to order.

This video from Hawes (even just the first 20 seconds) provides context for my concern about the long wheelbase.

I'd have zero issues ripping that on a 1290mm. More speed gives you more options for corners...

 

[Powerslider]

I'd have zero issues ripping that on a 1290mm. More speed gives you more options for corners...

The dramatically longer wheelbase would undoubtedly make the tight-ass parts of trails like that more difficult. Sure there'd be parts (like at the end of the video) where the length would be beneficial, but snaking between tall rocks isn't one of them. Not sure how going faster is overcoming that.

 

[404]

Orbea claims the RS tune uses about 25% LESS watt hours of battery juice actually.

and a golf going 100kmh can easily overtak an 911 going 70kmh...

if i use eco i also use less power...

 

[Suns_PSD]

I get that opinions are different on this Wheelbase matter, but it's not a dimension I consider at all. I think it's simply the result of the correct geo choices (i.e. Reach, CS, HTA, fork travel, etc.) and it just is whatever it is.

But more importantly, if these geo decisions are correct, the bikes become very maneuverable and just handles better. So yah, often a longer bike is more maneuverable, not less, imo.

Here is another opinion that will blow common 'wisdom'. Short CS are actually better for going fast, straight and steep. Long CS (up to a point) are better for turning. The exact opposite of what people commonly claim.

 

[ntm95]

The dramatically longer wheelbase would undoubtedly make the tight-ass parts of trails like that more difficult. Sure there'd be parts (like at the end of the video) where the length would be beneficial, but snaking between tall rocks isn't one of them. Not sure how going faster is overcoming that.

It gives you more options to slide the rear around, nose pick turns, and open corners up by running wider lines on terrain unsuitable to just dragging brakes and steering.
I'm sure that shorter wheelbases are preferable in arizona's terrain, hence pivot still being in business.
But my point was 1290mm wheelbase would be absolutely zero issue to take down that trail.
Nobody on an xl bike ever rides that trail ?

 

[Suns_PSD]

and a golf going 100kmh can easily overtak an 911 going 70kmh...

if i use eco i also use less power...

It's just a guess but maybe I think the responsiveness of the motor helps it feel more powerful, but ultimately it takes less WH's to put down 750 watts than it does to put down 1300 watts, no two ways about it, and this is where the battery conservation argument comes in around the RS tune.

 

[TG73]

Not possible at the moment. I have tried for ages to get it to feel a bit punchier.

The RS tune is very good. As of now, its unique to Orbea.

It would be great if Avinox could add a slider on the app for pedal angle sensitivity and/or torque sensitivity. Do you know if they have a feature request page?

 

[slickrock]

Also, influencers say Axinox is better power delivery (excluding Alex), then Orbea changes power delivery dramatically (5x more responsive!) to more closely mimic Bosch power delivery and suddenly influencers have been trying to get more response from the Avinox and THIS is now in fact better.

Just saying...

Moreover, this just proves that there's nothing inherent in the physical design of the motor to limit this capability. The RS Model is just custom firmware. Avinox could offer a quickstart mode option and be done with it in a firmware update for the rest of the Avinox populous.

 

[slickrock]

Yeah, its annoying. You do get used to it - but I think I'd prefer the instant-ness of the AXS / or a manual dropper.

Still curious about the dropper. You mentioned that has a kind of intermediate reset mode to control extension limit. That could be used when your ideal travel doesn't match with the fixed size options on other droppers, where you have to settle on a less travel dropper because with more travel your inseam would prevent full lockout (more an issue for shorter folk) with a longer dropper. I realize there are factors that come into play (seat insertion depth, seat tube height, and the seat post base height which seems shorter because there is not need to accomodate a battery), but I'm not aware a similar feature on other droppers. Is this Orbea proprietary? Who is the OEM? How many different seatpost lengths are there for this edropper?

 

[brendand]

Is the colour on your demo bike the Royal Plumb purple colour? Or is it just a blue colour? It looks blue to me. The side profile on the website looks super sharp. But the colour you were riding doesn't look anything like that.