M820: Which gravel or hard tail frames are available?

[El Topo]

I hope it is alright to post that in this forum - am looking into replacing my current daily driver gravel/cyclocross (with fenders) bike with an ebike.

Are there any gravel frames for the M820 system, other than this one? I can't find anything on the web.

If there are any old school geo hard tail MTB frames, that would fit the bill, I would take that as well, where one could run a short stem and a wider gravel drop bar.

Wouldn't matter if carbon or aluminium.


Thanks for any replies.


EDIT - added list of all bikes to the opening post:

Carbon:

https://www.hybridizer.com/?page_id=4260

A new E-gravel carbon frame set fit for Bafang M820

At Eurobike 2024, we launched a new E-gravel frame that fits the M820 36V motor and 360wh battery. Experts are welcome to give their opinions and suggestions! If there are bulk customers interested, we can design and produce similar frames fit for other brand motors for you. We also have contact...

www.emtbforums.com

E1029 Bafang M820 | YISHUNBIKE

700C Carbon E-Gravel Bike Frame w/t Mid Drive Bafang M820 – Carbon E-gravel Bike Frame– Full Internal Cable Routing– Bafang M820 Mid Drive System– Integrated Battery BT F044 374wh– Extender Battery BTF420 252wh– Dropout 12*100mm & 12* 148mm

www.yishunbike.com

https://silverbackbikes.de/products/s-electro-gr

https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/carbon-gravel-e-bike-eg03-with-bafang-m820/

https://lfbikes.com/products/bafang-m820-e-gravel-carbon

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Aluminium:

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Hardtail:

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[El Topo]

I found a few frames that might qualify, do the M800 and M820 share the same mount?

4LEAF EAGLE Mid-drive eRoad (Carbon)

700C*45C Electric Gravel Bike 36V 15Ah E Bike 250w EU Standard SHIMANO Derailleur 15KG Carbon Gravel Bike Item: 700*45c Electric Gravel bike Frame: T700 carbon gravel frame( lug&shell part is T800), EPS technology, internal cable routing, 12mm Thru-Axle Fork: T700+T800 carbon fork, EPS...

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CASSIS GRAVEL 28" M20S

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E021 BAFANG M800 | YISHUN

700C Full Carbon Road Racing Ebike Frames- Bafang M800 Mid Drive System- Max tire 700* 32C

www.yishunbike.com

E1029 Bafang M820 | YISHUNBIKE

700C Carbon E-Gravel Bike Frame w/t Mid Drive Bafang M820 – Carbon E-gravel Bike Frame– Full Internal Cable Routing– Bafang M820 Mid Drive System– Integrated Battery BT F044 374wh– Extender Battery BTF420 252wh– Dropout 12*100mm & 12* 148mm

www.yishunbike.com

https://silverbackbikes.de/products/s-electro-gr

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005005015269421.html

 

[temon10]

I found a few frames that might qualify, do the M800 and M820 share the same mount?

4LEAF EAGLE Mid-drive eRoad (Carbon)

700C*45C Electric Gravel Bike 36V 15Ah E Bike 250w EU Standard SHIMANO Derailleur 15KG Carbon Gravel Bike Item: 700*45c Electric Gravel bike Frame: T700 carbon gravel frame( lug&shell part is T800), EPS technology, internal cable routing, 12mm Thru-Axle Fork: T700+T800 carbon fork, EPS...

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Welcome to 4LEAF Bike, the foremost electric bicycle manufacturer in China. We offer innovative designs and great bike/ebike. Partner with us to gain a reliable supplier and the support of a professional team, helping you stand out in the market.

lfbikes.com

CASSIS GRAVEL 28" M20S

gepida.com

E021 BAFANG M800 | YISHUN

700C Full Carbon Road Racing Ebike Frames- Bafang M800 Mid Drive System- Max tire 700* 32C

www.yishunbike.com

E1029 Bafang M820 | YISHUNBIKE

700C Carbon E-Gravel Bike Frame w/t Mid Drive Bafang M820 – Carbon E-gravel Bike Frame– Full Internal Cable Routing– Bafang M820 Mid Drive System– Integrated Battery BT F044 374wh– Extender Battery BTF420 252wh– Dropout 12*100mm & 12* 148mm

www.yishunbike.com

https://silverbackbikes.de/products/s-electro-gr

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005005015269421.html

different mount between m820 and m800

 

[temon10]

I hope it is alright to post that in this forum - am looking into replacing my current daily driver gravel/cyclocross (with fenders) bike with an ebike.

Are there any gravel frames for the M820 system, other than this one? I can't find anything on the web.

If there are any old school geo hard tail MTB frames, that would fit the bill, I would take that as well, where one could run a short stem and a wider gravel drop bar.

Wouldn't matter if carbon or aluminium.


Thanks for any replies.

Zhaoseng who produced CEF50 will also produce gravel version with m820 motor. U can ask Linda.

 

[El Topo]

different mount between m820 and m800

Thanks for confirming, that is what I had assumed.

Zhaoseng who produced CEF50 will also produce gravel version with m820 motor. U can ask Linda.

Thank you for the reply, is this the company you are talking about?

 

[temon10]

Thanks for confirming, that is what I had assumed.


Thank you for the reply, could you provide a link, please? Or send me their email adress via private message?
I am not able to find that company. You are not talking about LightCarbon, or are you?

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[El Topo]

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Thanks, I just edited my post 30 seconds before you posted that link. I had found it in the meantime!

Will contact them and ask for Linda, thanks!

 

[El Topo]

Have there been any new developments regarding this? I wrote to Linda again, about their upcoming gravel frame, but didn't get a reply.

Still looking for a nice, no frills M820 gravel frame, alloy would be fine.

 

[un..inc]

Servus aus Franken.
What about the E1029, you shared in your first comment?
Do you have any information about this?

 

[El Topo]

Servus zurück aus der Hauptstadt.

Yesterday, I wrote to Yishun and 4Leaf, no reply so far from the latter, but Yishun sent out an automated reply, that they are only looking for bulk orders of 50+units, so I assume I won't hear back again from them anytime soon.
I asked 4Leaf if their frame would also fit an M820, we'll how they reply.

Those two alloy frames from Silverback and Gepida would be almost perfect for me, if they would not have the M800 mount, instead of M820...
Where are all those alloy frame companies? I never see them discussed on forums, do they not sell directly at all? For a daily driver, I would actually prefer an allow frame over carbon.

Like I said, an old school geo hard tail frame might also fit the bill, as long as its geo can be repurposed.

 

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Wow, that looks very nice!
The price seems very reasonable as well with the components on the pictures.
Unfortunately the pictures don't match the specification...
Interesting would be a frame + motor + battery...

 

[lkdoido]

Uau, isso parece muito bom!
O preço também parece muito razoável com os componentes nas fotos.
Infelizmente as fotos não correspondem às especificações...
Interessante seria um quadro + motor + bateria...

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[mdholling]

Another one for the list, the Hybridizer Rando. This one with an unusually large battery (860Wh claimed, more like 720Wh in my estimate).

Hybridizer Rando

 

[El Topo]

Thanks you for your recent suggestions, guys.

I was in touch with Zhaosheng, and they confirmed developing a gravel frame, but I haven't heard back from them since January.

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Thanks, the page is offline, but I assume that frame is now their Voyager gravel bike. I inquired if they also sell a frame set only.

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Thanks, it does seem like this is the same frame that ICAN sells, but I might be mistaken?

Another one for the list, the Hybridizer Rando. This one with an unusually large battery (860Wh claimed, more like 720Wh in my estimate).

Thanks, the geo is interesting, as they use a shorter stem of only 70mm, but have more reach. Maybe this is a great bike for bike travel, with its high battery capacity?
It would be interesting to find the manufacturer of that frame for DIY.


Also, we just had the announcement of Lighcarbon's exciting new rear suspension gravel frame.

A new E-gravel carbon frame set fit for Bafang M820

At Eurobike 2024, we launched a new E-gravel frame that fits the M820 36V motor and 360wh battery. Experts are welcome to give their opinions and suggestions! If there are bulk customers interested, we can design and produce similar frames fit for other brand motors for you. We also have contact...

www.emtbforums.com

EDIT: I just found this alloy frame!
Maybe one could get ahold of it? It seems they only do wholesale, but I will give it a try.

[Hot Item] 700c 11speed Bafang MID Drive 36V250W MTB Road Electric Bicycle Gravel Bike

Model NO.: JB-TDA19L Warranty: Battery/Motor:2 Years;Controller/Display:6 Months Wattage: 250W Battery Voltage: 36V Battery Type: Lithium Battery Wheel Size: 700c

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Nevertheless , I am still looking for an alloy frame, as this would be my 365 day daily driver, and I fear carbon is not up for that, when used in the city, where yo always ding your frame somewhere, when having to lock it. The ability to mount a rack is therefore also paramount.

 

[lazart]

Thanks you for your recent suggestions, guys.

I was in touch with Zhaosheng, and they confirmed developing a gravel frame, but I haven't heard back from them since January.


Thanks, the page is offline, but I assume that frame is now their Voyager gravel bike. I inquired if they also sell a frame set only.


Thanks, it does seem like this is the same frame that ICAN sells, but I might be mistaken?



Thanks, the geo is interesting, as they use a shorter stem of only 70mm, but have more reach. Maybe this is a great bike for bike travel, with its high battery capacity?
It would be interesting to find the manufacturer of that frame for DIY.


Also, we just had the announcement of Lighcarbon's exciting new rear suspension gravel frame.

A new E-gravel carbon frame set fit for Bafang M820

At Eurobike 2024, we launched a new E-gravel frame that fits the M820 36V motor and 360wh battery. Experts are welcome to give their opinions and suggestions! If there are bulk customers interested, we can design and produce similar frames fit for other brand motors for you. We also have contact...

www.emtbforums.com

EDIT: I just found this alloy frame!
Maybe one could get ahold of it? It seems they only do wholesale, but I will give it a try.

[Hot Item] 700c 11speed Bafang MID Drive 36V250W MTB Road Electric Bicycle Gravel Bike

Model NO.: JB-TDA19L Warranty: Battery/Motor:2 Years;Controller/Display:6 Months Wattage: 250W Battery Voltage: 36V Battery Type: Lithium Battery Wheel Size: 700c

jhjiabao.en.made-in-china.com

Nevertheless , I am still looking for an alloy frame, as this would be my 365 day daily driver, and I fear carbon is not up for that, when used in the city, where yo always ding your frame somewhere, when having to lock it. The ability to mount a rack is therefore also paramount.

Thanks, for sharing your all your research. It seems like we are in the market for a similar bike.

If you hear anything about the alloy frame, please let me know. It is almost exactly what I am looking for, but I get the impression they only do wholesale.

The Lightcarbon seems quite nice as well, but I am not so sure about the geometry and would prefer alloy.

 

[lazart]

@El Topo I found this alloy frame from Taiwan that might be close to what you're looking for.

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[atlet]

@El Topo I found this alloy frame from Taiwan that might be close to what you're looking for.

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Price?

 

[lazart]

@atlet From what I found it's around $1,500 USD with Shimano 10s, but doesn't sound like they ship overseas...

 

[El Topo]

@El Topo I found this alloy frame from Taiwan that might be close to what you're looking for.

臻澄實業

臻澄=真誠=Sincere E-Bike 套件/設計/整合/銷售 EiMARK電輔車總代理

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Great find, thank you a lot! This one looks quite nice. Will contact them via email.

How did you manage to find that frame though, I searched for all kinds of things, but this site never came up. :-/

 

[lazart]

Great find, thank you a lot! This one looks quite nice. Will contact them via email.

How did you manage to find that frame though, I searched for all kinds of things, but this site never came up. :-/

i searched #m820 on instagram
After thinking about it more, I am starting to lean towards the lightcarbon.

 

[Adam Anderson]

Servus zurück aus der Hauptstadt.

Yesterday, I wrote to Yishun and 4Leaf, no reply so far from the latter, but Yishun sent out an automated reply, that they are only looking for bulk orders of 50+units, so I assume I won't hear back again from them anytime soon.
I asked 4Leaf if their frame would also fit an M820, we'll how they reply.

Those two alloy frames from Silverback and Gepida would be almost perfect for me, if they would not have the M800 mount, instead of M820...
Where are all those alloy frame companies? I never see them discussed on forums, do they not sell directly at all? For a daily driver, I would actually prefer an allow frame over carbon.

Like I said, an old school geo hard tail frame might also fit the bill, as long as its geo can be repurposed.

they offer this now

BAFANG M820 e-Gravel (Carbon)

 

[El Topo]

they offer this now

BAFANG M820 e-Gravel (Carbon)

Thanks for reporting. This is actually the new Lightcarbon frame. It looks very interesing, but there apparently are no reports from users yet.

This one looks quite nice. Will contact them via email.

I don't think I ever contacted them via Email.
Here is their contact info, for anyone interested.

My current analogue daily driver might last another season, then I will have to replace basically everything - meaning I can just get a new bike anyway. Hopefully I will have found a frame by then, that fits my bill, and that isn't too expensive.

After thinking about it more, I am starting to lean towards the lightcarbon.

Did you pull the trigger on the Lightcarbon? If yes, what is your take on the frame?


Keep on posting in this thread, guys. This is what forums were created for. There are lots of people looking for info like this, that might not even be a member here!

 

[mdholling]

Another new Chinese gravel ebike: Yuying EGR-2. Carbon frame and fork, M820 motor and 540Wh battery. 250Wh range-extender also available.

Yuying EGR-2

Listed on Alibaba as a frameset or complete bike.

 

[El Topo]

Another new Chinese gravel ebike: Yuying EGR-2. Carbon frame and fork, M820 motor and 540Wh battery. 250Wh range-extender also available.

Listed on Alibaba as a frameset or complete bike.

Thanks!

I added all the M820 compatible frames to the opening post, when I have the patience, I will try to improve the styling, but is to suffice for now. Thanks to everyone, that posted alternative frames.
I hope this can serve as a reference for anyone looking for such a frame/build.

Feel free to post more, I am still looking for more hardtail frames, that would serve as good base for a gravel build (e.g. "old-school-geometry").


Are there any M820-compatible full-suspension-frames, that could be used for a such gravel build?

The only frames for the M820 (LCE930 and CEF50), both have circa 150mm of rear travel, so I have trouble figuring out, how that could be used for a gravel-style build. Angle-sets, under-forking, and under-shocking alone will not cut it for this purpose.

 

[El Topo]

Just pushing this up, I am surprised the topic is not more popular.

 

[ElEsido]

Wondering if the Bafang M820 can be equipped with two chain rings. Bafang have a video on their website that shows a nice road bike with a 2x setup, but I could not find any detailed information parts, compatibility, etc. Does anybody have any experience to share?

 

[kaaskopf]

Wondering if the Bafang M820 can be equipped with two chain rings. Bafang have a video on their website that shows a nice road bike with a 2x setup, but I could not find any detailed information parts, compatibility, etc. Does anybody have any experience to share?

you could always bolt a chainring to both sides of the spider and giving you 2x, only question would be how to shift ?