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What is your range in vertikal Meters in a trek slash plus? I only get 1000m vertical
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Welcome to the forum, @Moodle. 1,000m on the Slash+ is on the low end, but not as shocking as it might seem once you understand what's going on with that motor.
The key thing to know: most lightweight eMTBs have batteries in the 300Wh range, but Trek opted for a larger 580Wh option in the Slash+.
That's a genuine advantage for range. However, as a light-assist eMTB, the TQ HPR50 maxes out at 50Nm of torque and 250W of peak power, which is considerably less than a full-power motor.
It's also a motor that demands quite a bit more rider input than other motor systems, even in its most powerful mode.
In other words, if you're not pedalling hard, the battery doesn't go far either. For context on realistic numbers: one reviewer (143lb rider) recorded between 3,937 and 4,921 feet of elevation gain in various range tests
(roughly 1,200 - 1,500m vertical). That's with a lighter rider putting in consistent effort. Flow Mountain Bike's standardised test with earlier TQ HPR50 bikes on a 360Wh battery returned around 1,312m on the Trek Fuel EXe and 1,311m on the Scott Voltage, so you'd expect meaningfully more from the Slash+'s 580Wh pack.
EDIT: @Moodle reports Based on various reports including Pinkbike and user experience, the Slash+ should achieve at least 1,300m vertical even in boost mode, with potential for 1,371m or more depending on conditions, weigh. Not yet independently verified — take with a pinch of salt.
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A few things you can actually do to squeeze more out of it, @Moodle: Ride input - the TQ motor is fundamentally different to a Bosch or Shimano.
It can put out an impressive amount of wattage if you're willing to do the same, but if you back off the pedals, the assist drops off proportionally. Consistent, steady effort rather than spiky bursts is the recipe. Trail mode over Boost where the terrain allows - it'll drain the battery noticeably slower on gentler gradients.
Thermal management - one Slash+ owner on the forum noted that heat management is a real issue, and removing the battery cover on steep service road climbs made a noticeable difference to power output. Worth experimenting if you're doing long sustained climbs.
Range extender - Trek sells an official TQ HPR Range Extender. The 160Wh unit fits into your bottle cage and charges the bike while you ride. That's roughly a 27% capacity bump on top of your 580Wh, which should translate to meaningfully more than 1,000m on a decent day.
Motor upgrade - worth knowing that upgrading to the HPR60 gives an additional 10Nm of torque and it's more efficient and quieter, though your bike's firmware will only allow 300W peak mechanical power. The range improvement from efficiency gains would be real, but it won't transform the character of the system.
Yes, absolutely possible. A few things to look for: The TQ system does report battery health through the Trek app, so it's worth checking there first. If you're seeing significant capacity loss versus what Trek rates the pack at, that's a red flag.
More practically: how old is the battery and how many cycles has it done? Lithium cells degrade meaningfully after a few hundred charge cycles, and if the pack has been stored at 100% or 0% regularly, that accelerates the process. You mentioned in a previous thread that the bike cuts power in the last 10% of charge, which is normal behaviour, but if that 10% threshold is now kicking in earlier than it used to, the cells may genuinely be losing capacity.
The simplest test is to do a controlled ride: same trail, same assist mode, same effort, and compare the Wh consumed per 100m of climbing to what you were getting when the bike was new. If you're burning noticeably more Wh for the same elevation, the pack is degrading rather than you just running it harder.
If the numbers look wrong, a Trek dealer can run a proper battery diagnostic. It's worth doing before spending money on range extenders or other fixes, otherwise you're papering over the real problem.
Emailsucks98
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Hey Moodle- I've consistently gotten 4500' out of mine (1371m) with battery left, but have also killed the battery at 1000m a few times, if it was very cold/hot or I was using boost the whole time and climbing technical trail.
There's no doubt in my mind that the motor is most efficient in trail mode, or a mix of Eco/trail.
I'm 84kgs and mine is basically a 9.9 build with sticky DD tires.
If you're heavier, have a heavier build, or rely on the assist more I could see killing the battery at 1000m.
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Thanks for the answer
I thought that After Reading various Reports including pinkbike that Even in boost Mode you get essily 1300m vert. height.
Anyhow, does your battery restrict power output to 100w once it reaches the last 10%?
Thanks!
Emailsucks98
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Yeah, hard to say. When I first got mine (year+ ago) 1370m was no problem and I had battery left at the end. But these days it feels like I'm getting less range.
Having been on TQ bikes for 4+ years now, I haven't really seen range degrade, so I suspect it's more about how I am using the bike (slower tires, different routes etc). For example, I only care about vert, but these days I am riding to the trails more often, so more distance. But it could also be that my motor is nearing it's end.
Yes mine drops out completely at 10%. My EXe did not cut out completely, rather it went into nanny mode which was much better.
Is that what yours does? Can you check your firmware version? (I'll check mine too)
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