Sorry to let you down, but this thread isn't what you were hoping for. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's about BIKE racks.
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In the long long ago I used a Thule T2 rack on my truck. Racks are a pain in the ass to install and they take up space in the garage when you're not using them. Tailgate pads look cooler, are far more convenient, and can carry more bikes, so I eventually dumped the rack and got a pad.
The first thing you learn about carrying bikes in the back of the truck is that you can't carry as many as the pad manufacturer says you can. Well, you can, but you won't like it. Three bikes is ok, four if you're REALLY careful and drive like an elderly woman on her way to church. Try to carry more, and eventually someone's carbon frame is going to get gouged by a pedal.
The other problem is obvious and foreseeable. Scuffing that occurs if there's any dust in between the tailgate and the pad. Mountain biking frequently involves destinations that are dusty. The other problem is that pads don't fully protect the tailgate when traveling down rough roads. Mountain biking frequently involves destinations that require traveling on rugged roads. The result is slight denting of the tailgate--not cool.
I don't like driving a dented up truck and couldn't stand it any longer. I had the tailgate repaired. Of course I'm not going to beat up the new tailgate, so I sold the tailgate pads and started shopping for racks. There's some good ones out there nowadays, far better than the racks of old.
Selection wasn't easy, but I went with he Kuat Piston Ion because of the claim that it's good on rough roads. REI has a 20% discount on a single item right now, and my year-end dividend will refund another 10%. That was enough to get me to pull the trigger.
I picked it up yesterday and bolted it all together. It seems solid and it seems to hold the bike securely. Unfortunately, it's going to take up room in the garage just like the old Thule. Unlike the T2, the Ion is bloody heavy! I might have to start taking supplements and hitting the gym.
Anyone else have off road bike rack experience? Maybe I should have asked BEFORE making the purchase, but I'm impatient that way.

In the long long ago I used a Thule T2 rack on my truck. Racks are a pain in the ass to install and they take up space in the garage when you're not using them. Tailgate pads look cooler, are far more convenient, and can carry more bikes, so I eventually dumped the rack and got a pad.
The first thing you learn about carrying bikes in the back of the truck is that you can't carry as many as the pad manufacturer says you can. Well, you can, but you won't like it. Three bikes is ok, four if you're REALLY careful and drive like an elderly woman on her way to church. Try to carry more, and eventually someone's carbon frame is going to get gouged by a pedal.
The other problem is obvious and foreseeable. Scuffing that occurs if there's any dust in between the tailgate and the pad. Mountain biking frequently involves destinations that are dusty. The other problem is that pads don't fully protect the tailgate when traveling down rough roads. Mountain biking frequently involves destinations that require traveling on rugged roads. The result is slight denting of the tailgate--not cool.
I don't like driving a dented up truck and couldn't stand it any longer. I had the tailgate repaired. Of course I'm not going to beat up the new tailgate, so I sold the tailgate pads and started shopping for racks. There's some good ones out there nowadays, far better than the racks of old.
Selection wasn't easy, but I went with he Kuat Piston Ion because of the claim that it's good on rough roads. REI has a 20% discount on a single item right now, and my year-end dividend will refund another 10%. That was enough to get me to pull the trigger.
I picked it up yesterday and bolted it all together. It seems solid and it seems to hold the bike securely. Unfortunately, it's going to take up room in the garage just like the old Thule. Unlike the T2, the Ion is bloody heavy! I might have to start taking supplements and hitting the gym.
Anyone else have off road bike rack experience? Maybe I should have asked BEFORE making the purchase, but I'm impatient that way.


