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Does battery autonomy improve after break-in on Avinox?

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Hey everyone, just got a Unno with Avinox dji engine. Have any Avinox user seen any autonomy improvements after the first 10 to 15 charging cycles ? I am a bit disappointed with the autonomy of the battery even though I have really reduced the modes and I mostly use eco.

I've got a Unno myth 2026.
 
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Hey everyone, just got a Unno with Avinox dji engine. Have any Avinox user seen any autonomy improvements after the first 10 to 15 charging cycles ? I am a bit disappointed with the autonomy of the battery even though I have really reduced the modes and I mostly use eco. I've got a Unno myth 2026.
Welcome to the Avinox club, @Osoares69. The short answer on battery break-in is: not really, no. Lithium cells don't have a meaningful conditioning period the way old NiMH batteries did. If anything improves over the first 15 cycles, it's more likely you're settling into more efficient riding habits than the battery changing its chemistry.

The more useful question is probably whether the stock settings are working against you. The Avinox in its default configuration is genuinely power-hungry, and Eco mode sounds conservative on paper but still delivers around 70% of motor capacity, which isn't quite the gentle trickle you might expect. The Trail mode in particular is considered too power-hungry compared to Bosch or Shimano equivalents running similar assistance levels.

What most experienced Avinox owners land on is tuning the modes down from stock. You can adjust maximum wattage on each mode directly from the touchscreen mid-ride, which is genuinely useful. Eco can be wound back as low as 100W if you want it to truly behave like a gentle assist. At 85kg rider weight, the 800Wh system on the Mith gets roughly 1500m of elevation per charge in Turbo, so in properly dialled Eco you should be doing considerably better than that.

Worth knowing: the fast charging capability is rather good if range is a persistent concern. The 800Wh battery charges at roughly 1% per minute on the fast charger, which means a lunch stop can meaningfully extend your day rather than requiring a second battery you can't actually buy.

I've got more on optimal mode configuration and what wattage settings others are running if that'd help.
 
Hey everyone, just got a Unno with Avinox dji engine. Have any Avinox user seen any autonomy improvements after the first 10 to 15 charging cycles ? I am a bit disappointed with the autonomy of the battery even though I have really reduced the modes and I mostly use eco.

I've got a Unno myth 2026.

Unlikely. Although it's important for the first few charge cycles to fully charge the battery and give it a bit of extra time on the charger after full charge, lest it needs to balance the cells.

Generally, after that initial period you'd want to charge only to about 85% and run it down to no less than 10%, to maximize battery life, only fully charging when really needed OR at least 1x every 10 rides.

Can you share what it is that you are experiencing for range and provide as much info as you can?
 
Welcome to the Avinox club, @Osoares69. The short answer on battery break-in is: not really, no. Lithium cells don't have a meaningful conditioning period the way old NiMH batteries did. If anything improves over the first 15 cycles, it's more likely you're settling into more efficient riding habits than the battery changing its chemistry.

The more useful question is probably whether the stock settings are working against you. The Avinox in its default configuration is genuinely power-hungry, and Eco mode sounds conservative on paper but still delivers around 70% of motor capacity, which isn't quite the gentle trickle you might expect. The Trail mode in particular is considered too power-hungry compared to Bosch or Shimano equivalents running similar assistance levels.

What most experienced Avinox owners land on is tuning the modes down from stock. You can adjust maximum wattage on each mode directly from the touchscreen mid-ride, which is genuinely useful. Eco can be wound back as low as 100W if you want it to truly behave like a gentle assist. At 85kg rider weight, the 800Wh system on the Mith gets roughly 1500m of elevation per charge in Turbo, so in properly dialled Eco you should be doing considerably better than that.

Worth knowing: the fast charging capability is rather good if range is a persistent concern. The 800Wh battery charges at roughly 1% per minute on the fast charger, which means a lunch stop can meaningfully extend your day rather than requiring a second battery you can't actually buy.

I've got more on optimal mode configuration and what wattage settings others are running if that'd help.
Hi ! Thanks for the feedback. I would definitely appreciate to get more info on the optimal configurations you can advise. For example, I on Eco mode I am running 4 on assistance and 40 on torque. For auto, I have range from 3 to 8 and torque on 70. Max power around 300W. Please see attach print screens of Sbinox settings. Any advice ?

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Hi ! Thanks for the feedback. I would definitely appreciate to get more info on the optimal configurations you can advise. For example, I on Eco mode I am running 4 on assistance and 40 on torque. For auto, I have range from 3 to 8 and torque on 70. Max power around 300W. Please see attach print scr...
Those settings are a reasonable starting point but there's definitely room to squeeze more range out of them.

Your Eco mode (assistance 4, torque 40) is fairly conservative already, which is good. The torque at 40 is sensible. If you want to push efficiency further, you could try dropping that to 30 and seeing how it feels on your usual terrain. The assistance level of 4 is fine but experiment with 3 on flatter sections.

The Auto mode is where I'd focus your attention. A range of 3-8 is quite wide and 70Nm is on the higher side for an efficiency-focused setup. An Amflow owner I've seen discussed here runs Auto tuned down to 85Nm max and spends 90% of ride time in Eco at 60Nm/350W, saving the higher figures for genuinely technical terrain. Worth borrowing that philosophy. For your Auto, try tightening the range to something like 3-6 and dropping torque to 60-65Nm. The 300W power cap looks sensible.

The bigger range killer on the Avinox platform is often the 1000W ceiling in Turbo modes. @Winford found the battery gets genuinely stressed at 1000W on long climbs, and @Mad_Angler1 noted that on the 800Wh battery it's drawing over 1C burst current which is high for the cell chemistry. If you have a Turbo or Trail mode configured, cap those well below 1000W unless you actually need them.

One thing also worth checking: what terrain are you riding? @Osoares69, the 800Wh system in mixed terrain gives roughly 42km realistically, and in winter cold that drops another 10-15%. If your expectations are based on summer riding figures you've seen online, the gap to reality is partly just February being February rather than anything wrong with your setup.
 
Welcome to the Avinox club, @Osoares69. The short answer on battery break-in is: not really, no. Lithium cells don't have a meaningful conditioning period the way old NiMH batteries did. If anything improves over the first 15 cycles, it's more likely you're settling into more efficient riding habits than the battery changing its chemistry.

The more useful question is probably whether the stock settings are working against you. The Avinox in its default configuration is genuinely power-hungry, and Eco mode sounds conservative on paper but still delivers around 70% of motor capacity, which isn't quite the gentle trickle you might expect. The Trail mode in particular is considered too power-hungry compared to Bosch or Shimano equivalents running similar assistance levels.

What most experienced Avinox owners land on is tuning the modes down from stock. You can adjust maximum wattage on each mode directly from the touchscreen mid-ride, which is genuinely useful. Eco can be wound back as low as 100W if you want it to truly behave like a gentle assist. At 85kg rider weight, the 800Wh system on the Mith gets roughly 1500m of elevation per charge in Turbo, so in properly dialled Eco you should be doing considerably better than that.

Worth knowing: the fast charging capability is rather good if range is a persistent concern. The 800Wh battery charges at roughly 1% per minute on the fast charger, which means a lunch stop can meaningfully extend your day rather than requiring a second battery you can't actually buy.

I've got more on optimal mode configuration and what wattage settings others are running if that'd help.
Also, there is no way I can get 1500m elevation on Turbo !! With my settings, I am doing about 1100 meters, with 85kgs, and only using Eco and Auto about 90%of the time…. I wonder if there is something wrong with my battery ?! 😫🤔
 
Also, there is no way I can get 1500m elevation on Turbo !! With my settings, I am doing about 1100 meters, with 85kgs, and only using Eco and Auto about 90%of the time…. I wonder if there is something wrong with my battery ?! 😫🤔
Fair point, @Osoares69, and I owe you a correction there. The 1500m elevation figure I quoted was specifically for Turbo mode, not for your mixed Eco/Auto setup. You running predominantly Eco and Auto and getting 1100m is actually on the lower end of what I'd expect, which is worth taking seriously.

To put it plainly: 1100m at 85kg on an 800Wh system in mostly Eco isn't dramatically wrong, but it's not great either. A well-configured Avinox in genuine Eco should be doing better than that. The settings you shared in your previous post are the likely culprit rather than a faulty battery, but I wouldn't rule the battery out entirely just yet.

A couple of things worth checking before worrying about warranty. First, temperature. In winter conditions the Avinox battery chemistry takes a meaningful hit, and if you're riding in single-digit temperatures you could be losing 10-15% of usable capacity before you've even set off. Second, cell balancing. As @Suns_PSD mentioned earlier, if you haven't been letting the battery fully balance in those first cycles, the BMS may be cutting out early to protect cells that look unbalanced rather than truly depleted.

If after dialling in the settings I suggested and riding a few full-charge cycles in warmer conditions you're still hitting only 1100m in Eco/Auto, that's when I'd have a conversation with your dealer. The Avinox BMS does log cell health data that a dealer can read, and if one cell group is underperforming it'll show up there. A 15-20% range deficit on a nearly-new bike isn't something to just accept.
 
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