Other New Specialized Ebike?

[dirton2wheels]

New Levo R. 130mm rear, 140mm front, 29" wheels, Motivate brakes, s-works S3 weight 21.23 kg. Right triangle is the same as the Levo 4, only the rear triangle changes to accommodate the 29" wheel. I believe this triangle can be installed on the Levo 4 for those who want to use 29" wheels on the Levo 4. Otherwise, I didn't see any advantage. My customized Levo 4 weighs 21.7 kg. Hahaha

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I am sorry, but who in this world wants this bike?? Apparently Specialized is not listening to their customers.

 

[Fangs2k]

am i the specialized dealer or you? i know my customers…

I’ve no idea who you are, or the relevance of whether you’re a specialized dealer or not, but mountain biking on trails existed before suspension and electric motors. The trails were always there.

People just think they need something, and sometimes, the customer isn’t right.

 

[DylanJM]

I am sorry, but who in this world wants this bike?? Apparently Specialized is not listening to their customers.

I think the trend currently is manufactures curtailing their non emtb catalogues and offering more options in their emtb side. I think Specialized sees a demand for multiple Levo offerings. Levo R, normal Levo and Levo Evo covering all bases (XC, trail and enduro).

 

[Flo7]

I think this bike is a fail like Gen4 Levo.

 

[Eduardoramundo]

For those that are saying the front triangle on the Levo R is the same as the Levo 4 clearly need to go to Specsavers

 

[dirton2wheels]

For those that are saying the front triangle on the Levo R is the same as the Levo 4 clearly need to go to Specsavers

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I think the trend currently is manufactures curtailing their non emtb catalogues and offering more options in their emtb side. I think Specialized sees a demand for multiple Levo offerings. Levo R, normal Levo and Levo Evo covering all bases (XC, trail and enduro).

A demand of 5 is no reason to engineer, maufacture, and produce a cross country Levo.

 

[DylanJM]

A demand of 5 is no reason to engineer, maufacture, and produce a cross country Levo.

Take it up with Specialized, I am just saying what direction I think the industry is going.

 

[Polar]

I am sorry, but who in this world wants this bike?? Apparently Specialized is not listening to their customers.

No need to be sorry since you obviously don't have a clue.

 

[Powerslider]

It's interesting to notice some ppl don't or won't understand what riding style the Levo R is designed to cover.

Sadly this bike is another one of those situations where people believe that because they don’t like it for themselves, it shouldn’t exist.

 

[linkqwd]

21kg+ in s-works ?
So they weren’t even able to repeat the 19.70 kg mark that was advertised when Gen 4 came out.
Probably because it was marketing b*hit

 

[Ribinrobin]

New Levo R. 130mm rear, 140mm front, 29" wheels, Motivate brakes, s-works S3 weight 21.23 kg. Right triangle is the same as the Levo 4, only the rear triangle changes to accommodate the 29" wheel. I believe this triangle can be installed on the Levo 4 for those who want to use 29" wheels on the Levo 4. Otherwise, I didn't see any advantage. My customized Levo 4 weighs 21.7 kg. Hahaha

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wow they made the levo somehow look worse

 

[Polar]

21kg+ in s-works ?
So they weren’t even able to repeat the 19.70 kg mark that was advertised when Gen 4 came out.
Probably because it was marketing b*hit
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What's the problem?

 

[DylanJM]

21kg+ in s-works ?
So they weren’t even able to repeat the 19.70 kg mark that was advertised when Gen 4 came out.
Probably because it was marketing b*hit
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That one had the 600wh battery. I think the Levo R has the 840wh one.

 

[cañonaco]

Disculpen mi ignorancia pero cambio todas mis bicicletas, las tiendas de bicicletas me adoran, pero si le pongo una horquilla de 150 mm y cambio el ángulo del tubo delantero a uno más alto (creo que se puede), ese sería el único cambio que afectaría la geometría.
¿Habría una diferencia tan importante en la sensación de conducción? Además, si pienso en nuestra batería de 600 vatios, que me da aproximadamente un kg para trabajar (para mantener la bicicleta en 20 kg), probablemente le ponga el Ohlins 36 M3. Ahora tengo el 38 en mi bicicleta y me gusta.
No soy un profesional, solo llevo un año aproximadamente montando, me encantan los parques de saltos y los enduros, pero tampoco soy un profesional, hago algunas carreras de larga distancia de entre 45 y 85 km.
¿Esta bicicleta estaría bien para lo mencionado anteriormente o cambiar la longitud sería un cambio importante que dañaría toda la bicicleta?

Excuse my ignorance but I change all my bikes , bike shop loves me but if I put a 150mm fork on changed the front tube angle to higher (I believe you can) that would be the only change that would affect the geometry
Would it be such a major difference in riding feel , also thinking to out 600 watt battery which gives me like a kg to work with (to keep bike at 20kgs ) probably put the Ohlins 36 M3 I’ve got the 38 on my bike now and I like it
I’m no professional only riding about a year or so love jump parks and enduros but again not a pro , do a few longish distance races 45 to 85 km
Would this bike be ok for the above or would changing the length be a major change stuffing the whole bike up

A 10 or 20 mm fork doesn't ruin anything; you can install it without problems, with its advantages and disadvantages.

In the photos, you can see the shock's Flip Chip, which will also allow you to raise the rear by 5 mm to balance things out.

I also don't think Cascade will take long to release a linkage that can offer 140 or 145 mm of rear travel.

It seems perfectly reasonable to increase the travel slightly to 150/160 mm front and 140 mm rear on a very light and versatile bike. With a 600 mAh battery, it can get very close to 20.5 kg.

 

[DylanJM]

A 10 or 20 mm fork doesn't ruin anything; you can install it without problems, with its advantages and disadvantages.

In the photos, you can see the shock's Flip Chip, which will also allow you to raise the rear by 5 mm to balance things out.

I also don't think Cascade will take long to release a linkage that can offer 140 or 145 mm of rear travel.

It seems perfectly reasonable to increase the travel slightly to 150/160 mm front and 140 mm rear on a very light and versatile bike. With a 600 mAh battery, it can get very close to 20.5 kg.

But surely at that point you might as well just buy the regular Levo and work on making it lighter. The regular Levo can also get down to close to 20-21kg with the 600wh battery and some different tyres and components.

Unless of curse you are dead set on a 29er rear.

 

[Ride 2d@y]

But surely at that point you might as well just buy the regular Levo and work on making it lighter. The regular Levo can also get down to close to 20-21kg with the 600wh battery and some different tyres and components.

Unless of curse you are dead set on a 29er rear.

By the way, has Specialized quietly canceled the 600wh battery? I ask, because you can't get one, still not available etc.

 

[DylanJM]

By the way, has Specialized quietly canceled the 600wh battery? I ask, because you can't get one, still not available etc.

I don't know. I had assumed it was delayed and possibly reserved for this release.

 

[shenzi105]

He did a small drop and bottom out. This thing is dangerous.

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"dangerous", ha ha ha, oh the drama!

 

[Imanol]

nuclear weapons are to be replaced by Levos R

 

[silverstone]

Really disappointing after all the hype. Considering that the advertising slogan is "On 24 February, cycling will change forever," you'd expect something really better! And with all the compromises made on the components, it still weighs over 21 kg, which is just embarrassing for Specialised. A few years ago, they were able to build pioneering Full Power e-MTBs weighing less than 20 kg!

 

[Polar]

A few years ago, they were able to build pioneering Full Power e-MTBs weighing less than 20 kg

They still do because it's about the whole package.

 

[cañonaco]

Por cierto, ¿Specialized ha cancelado discretamente la batería de 600 Wh? Pregunto, porque no se puede conseguir una, sigue sin estar disponible, etc.

Mid march

 

[sethimus]

For those that are saying the front triangle on the Levo R is the same as the Levo 4 clearly need to go to Specsavers

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you do know that there are quite a few frame sizes and not every frame size has exactly the same proportions?

 

[silverstone]

you do know that there are quite a few frame sizes and not every frame size has exactly the same proportions?

O cmon, thats obvious not the same front triangle.
At least the hole on the shockmount and the chamfer by the seatpost...
Same same, but different

 

[DylanJM]

you do know that there are quite a few frame sizes and not every frame size has exactly the same proportions?

It's very clearly a different front triangle regardless of frame size. S3/S4 frames are almost always used for display/media purposes also.

 

[Citylad77]

They were always like this, but the Levo went from Prom Queen to something very different in my and many others opinion.

I would have bought a Levo Gen 4 by 98%, when it had come with a lighter frame and motor...

And me smaller frame and I would have had one, I had 5 S works levo over 7 years loved every one, and the service support has been exceptional, though I would rather it didn’t need to go back in so often.

 

[singletrackminded]

But surely at that point you might as well just buy the regular Levo and work on making it lighter. The regular Levo can also get down to close to 20-21kg with the 600wh battery and some different tyres and components.

Unless of curse you are dead set on a 29er rear.

I just weighed my Gen 4 levo w/ Podium fork weighs 52.2 lbs. (23.7 kg). I was just able to finally order the 600W battery which will reportedly save an additional 2.2 Kg, thus placing my enduro spec'd Levo 4 weigh 47.4 (21.5 kgs). I have no interest in a 29er, so i think ill stay with my Levo 4 and + 7k in my bank account. Levo -R for me doesn't appear to offer enough upgrades to warrant a purchase in this ever changing and competitive market. I believe a better target for my application would have been a more powerful SL model.

 

[cañonaco]

Acabo de pesar mi Levo Gen 4 con horquilla Podium y pesa 23,7 kg (52,2 lb). Por fin pude pedir la batería de 600 W, que, según dicen, me ahorrará 2,2 kg adicionales, lo que deja mi Levo 4 con especificaciones de enduro en 21,5 kg (47,4 lb). No me interesa una de 29 pulgadas, así que creo que me quedaré con mi Levo 4 y con más de 7.000 libras en mi cuenta bancaria. La Levo -R no parece ofrecer suficientes mejoras como para justificar una compra en este mercado tan competitivo y en constante cambio. Creo que un modelo SL más potente habría sido un mejor objetivo para mi aplicación.

1.2 kg o 2.2kg less?

 

[Dano]

If the new Levo R doesn’t appeal to you because you don’t want a fast sturdy XC bike then don’t buy it.

If the Levo 4 doesn’t appeal to you either then don’t buy it.

Buy one of the many other options from other brands…

It’s quite simple really, options are good and if Specialized has enough in there development budget to make multiple models whether they suit you or not, that’s great.

E-bikes are still new and growing to many folk, it’s great brands are trying things to see what catches.

Please go buy an Amflow if you don’t like what the big S is cooking,

No need to yuck someone’s yum.

 

[Georgedukesa]

If the new Levo R doesn’t appeal to you because you don’t want a fast sturdy XC bike then don’t buy it.

If the Levo 4 doesn’t appeal to you either then don’t buy it.

Buy one of the many other options from other brands…

It’s quite simple really, options are good and if Specialized has enough in there development budget to make multiple models whether they suit you or not, that’s great.

E-bikes are still new and growing to many folk, it’s great brands are trying things to see what catches.

Please go buy an Amflow if you don’t like what the big S is cooking,

No need to yuck someone’s yum.

I like what you said buut you unfortunately get peeps that need to bash stuff to make them selves feel better #humansaresadsometimes