Levo Gen 4 Gen 4 Sworks and Non-Sworks New Firmware Coming Soon (Yes, Really !)

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In the mean time I'm pimping/preparing to handle the power update of the Levo 4.

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Georgedukesa said:
Nice I put Chris king hubs with the schwalbe Radials front and back also have the Ohlins 38m3 front fork and coil rear shock
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Well done.
I replaced my stock config with CKs laced to We Are One Fuse rims, paired with Push 9.1 and 11.6
These were massive improvements.

I'm perfectly content with the Maven brakes although I use ceramic pads from MTX for better modulation
 
Polar said:
I'm pretty excited about Oakley Meta ai Vanguard with prizm road lens, just sold my action 5 pro so I hope I don't regret.
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I was also keen on the oakleys meta but I settled for the DJI Nano want to wait till they integrate a screen on lenses tech but I’m sure you will enjoy the Meta Oakleys allot of good reviews
 
So getting back to the software update I’m pretty sure the past two updates 1.58 to 1.59 is setting the stage and ground work for the big Firmware update 1.6 (really really really excited and hopeful) doing a race in March late march 45 km at my home grounds (Taroko Trail park Johannesburg) and with the update will be a major wooomaaa boost
 
DylanJM said:
If USA emtbs had 3x the nominal power of the EU versions we would have heard about it by now. I already said the bikes can sustain a higher output than nominal for long periods but eventually they will overheat and derate.

Even the DJI Avinox is listed as 250w nominal output despite having a 1000w peak output.
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Nothing on specialized website mentions 250w. Nominal 250w power would indicate that the bike over a few hour ride would indicate average motor power of 250w, or thereabouts in a consistent long climb. Instead we are seeing 700-800w motor output as members here have reported. I suspect to get around regulations these motors are claimed to be 250w, even thought in USA class 1 can go to 750w, but can sustain much higher power output over a long period of time. These 840w batteries theoretically should last over 3.5 hours of climbing if the nominal power was 250w. I have no problem burning up my battery in turbo in fraction of that time.
 
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Johneracer said:
Nothing on specialized website mentions 250w. Nominal 250w power would indicate that the bike over a few hour ride would indicate average motor power of 250w, or thereabouts. Instead we are seeing 700-800w motor output. There is a YouTube s works dyno and motor is putting out 655w to the wheel with consistent pedal rpm. There is no way these motors can be 250w nominal when the are consistently putting out 3 times that power. This is either a way to go around regulations by claiming 250w but peak is much higher or simply not true.
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Just read the EU regulations regarding w and going from 250 nominal goes so fast it's impossible to notice it.
This is a EU hack (actually legal today) and hopefully EU don't find a way to make 250 nominel and max.
If you live in EU most lightly you will visible see the 250 on the frame or motor.
 
Polar said:
Just read the EU regulations regarding w and going from 250 nominal goes so fast it's impossible to notice it.
This is a EU hack (actually legal today) and hopefully EU don't find a way to make 250 nominel and max.
If you live in EU most lightly you will visible see the 250 on the frame or motor.
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Does anyone have a boundary guard on their bike? Which models?
 
Eduardinior said:
Does anyone have a boundary guard on their bike? Which models?
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Copied from the EU E-bikes regulations.

«In the European Union, the maximum power output for an electric bike (e-bike) motor is capped at 250 watts (0.25 kW). This regulation ensures that e-bikes are treated as bicycles rather than motor vehicles, allowing them to be used without a license under certain conditions.

«EU Regulations on E-Bike Power Limits
Maximum Power Output
In the European Union, the maximum power output for electric bicycles (e-bikes) is set at 250 watts (W). This regulation is part of EU legislation to classify e-bikes as bicycles rather than motor vehicles.
Speed Limitations
E-bikes in the EU must also adhere to speed limitations. The motor assistance is capped at a maximum speed of 25 kilometers per hour (km/h), or approximately 15.5 miles per hour (mph). If the bike exceeds this speed, the motor must disengage, requiring the rider to pedal like on a traditional bicycle.
Classification of Higher-Powered E-Bikes
E-bikes with motors exceeding 250 W are classified differently. These are often categorized as S-Pedelecs, which can have motors up to 4,000 W and speeds of 45 km/h. S-Pedelecs are subject to stricter regulations, including licensing and insurance requirements»
 
FrogSkunk said:
I was wondering about trying these pads. Are they the gold pads?
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I’m running the gold and they are excellent. Modulation is good but they can get noisy when hot or wet. I ran magura mt7 and while those are known for modulation, I feel mavens have tons more power which is nice on heavy braking trails. I’m curious if anyone is running red pads and how they like them?
 
My wishlist upgrade for the Levo 4 would be to allow more speed sensors for increased resolution of wheel speed. Seems like it’d be possible to take say, four readings per rotation if users wanted to buy a new rotor and additional magnets. I can notice surging when I’m in Turbo (always) and stuck climbing slowly behind an analog rider.
 
Powerslider said:
My wishlist upgrade for the Levo 4 would be to allow more speed sensors for increased resolution of wheel speed. Seems like it’d be possible to take say, four readings per rotation if users wanted to buy a new rotor and additional magnets. I can notice surging when I’m in Turbo (always) and stuck climbing slowly behind an analog
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Tune your turbo down a bit. If all the way up in ease of peddling it’s too powerful. Slide the tune to the left, or use auto mode. This bike has a ton of torque and turbo if all the way up csn
Come on too strong. I noticed that if I’m climbing very steep trail it wants to wheelie. I now climb in trail turned down and it’s perfect. The rear magnet read out doesn’t affect the way motor applies power, I think. It just gives speed reading plus limits the bike to 20mph. There is a torque sensor in the motor that responsible for power application
 
Powerslider said:
Not interested. 😆 100/100 100% of the time. Little surging in atypical situations is okay.
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I get it but it removes some of the on/off feeling while giving you max power anyway. 100/100 means it takes very little effort to get full power of the bike. I love it tho, it’s such a beast!
 
FrogSkunk said:
I was wondering about trying these pads. Are they the gold pads?
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Actually, I use red. The stock sintered Maven pads I found to be obnoxiously grabby and on/off. The red MTX significantly improve modulation. Power decreases a touch with MTX red compared to stock sintered, but not that much.
The reds rarely make a noise. The golds are quiet, quieter than sintered pads, but not red-silent.
 
YokoOno said:
Actually, I use red. The stock sintered Maven pads I found to be obnoxiously grabby and on/off. The red MTX significantly improve modulation. Power decreases a touch with MTX red compared to stock sintered, but not that much.
The reds rarely make a noise. The golds are quiet, quieter than sintered pads, but not red-silent.
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I concur. Love the MTX Reds!
 
Johneracer said:
I’m running the gold and they are excellent. Modulation is good but they can get noisy when hot or wet. I ran magura mt7 and while those are known for modulation, I feel mavens have tons more power which is nice on heavy braking trails. I’m curious if anyone is running red pads and how they like them?
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Ok I figured. I ran the gold one in my dhr evos and loved them. Sucks, I have three sets just chillin in the bin. Now I have the Mavens and they are a different style…
 
OnEdge said:
I concur. Love the MTX Reds!
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Tempted to try them. The golds have so much power it’s ridiculous. My buddy bought Levo Gen 4 to compliment his road bike. I warned him about mavens, he doesn’t do a lot of MTB. Well in a group ride, he was messing with his gps, looked up noticed people stopped. Got on the brakes and ended up flipping and going over the bars. Bike launched him good distance straight into other riders. Point is be careful with these brakes!!
 
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