Rotwild goes DJI, only better

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Rotwild from Germany might not be the most well-known brand. I’ve ridden one once. It was an SL style bike with a smaller sub 400 Wh battery. But unlike all other SL bikes, Rotwild went with a full-power 85 Nm Shimano motor. And it even had an easily detachable battery.

The new Rotwild R.EX sticks with the recipe being pretty light yet strong. This is a mullet bike with 150 mm travel rear and a 160 mm fork. Rotwild claim it’s between 21.7 and 22.4 kg. Read more here ...
 
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I am liking this , although non Avinox prop battery/ charger , non fast charge , could be a concern maybe in terms of if you have an issue, obviously and also no UK availability grrr . guess we are left with the Orange :p,Amflow , the mythical UNNO Mith and the Forbidden ( currently)

The rear link set up , kinda reminds me of the Ibis oso to a degree also !
 
Some kind of mistake imho above, the top image shows higher travel X2/ZEB freeride version, but the spec list and further images show Float-X/36 bike. That's the one which will be 22kg, and the X2 will be 24kg. Their implementation will once again negate some of the clean aesthetics and weight saving of DJI which UNNO did.
Not saying it's bad, at least it's different and Rothwild is niche as is.

Still not fan of their cyberpunk/hideo kojima graphics.
 
Yeah, good catch. Also, the Tacky Chan tyres on the press photos aren't in the specs list. That particular image, that I ramdomly picked, is supposed to be of the R.EX PRO. It's supposed to have the Lyric Select+ forks.
 
The crazy long seat tube length is very 2000s. Hard pass on that mess of a bike.
that crazy long seat tube houses an 8pin integrated seatpost (read: the seatpost is part of the frame) with up to 225mm travel. research first before making stupid comments...

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that crazy long seat tube houses an 8pin integrated seatpost (read: the seatpost is part of the frame) with up to 225mm travel. research first before making stupid comments...

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And you think having a proprietary dropper, and a ridiculously long seat tube as a result is a good thing? Help me understand that logic 🤣

All you have to do is sit back and watch. Nobody with any sense will buy that bike.
 
An integrated dropper??? Surely it’d be more cost effective for them to not do this. Ruled out immediately.
 
Ugly side loading battery à la gen4 levo.
That makes it a firm no from me.
 
Forbidden as first choice, UNNO second choice but this is so far based on the available YouTube reviews so far as I have not ridden either bike yet. Loamwolf had a pre production or prototype UNNO, with a defective rear shock apparently, and Drew didn’t have a whole lot of great things to say about it. Robert liked it quite a bit though.

I do really like Brian Cahill’s Druid review but he is an amazing rider and I am certainly not as skilled as he is. My fear is that with either of these bikes you may have to be a very aggressive rider to extract the most from them leaving them to feel sluggish if not ridden hard.

Please share your thoughts and opinions on this as they would be appreciated and I don’t foresee getting to ride either of these bikes anytime soon in Santa Cruz California.

Thanks
 
I saw the quick release demonstration with the single button locking. Great idea but I’d be mindful that unless everything in the simple to detach mechanism is incredibly well sealed, a filthy UK winter might easily kill the battery connections etc.
 
Too bad they opted for prego battery downtube + side removing battery = full no go.
Too bad, cause the rear linkage looks very nice.
 
The crazy long seat tube length is very 2000s. Hard pass on that mess of a bike.

The 8 pins dropper doesn't have a collar at all and collapses all of the way to the frame. So the effective Seat Tube Length is around 30mm shorter than that dimension.

Generally 8 Pins dropper bikes have the seat post set as low as possible where the seat won't contact the rear tire as they are unique in whatever drop you set them up with, the seat will always go all of the way down.

I'd love to have a bike with an 8 Pins. Basically everyone, gets the max drop available to them. It's like a custom dropper built exactly for your saddle, pedals, and preferred seat height that always drops straight to the frame. They are also lighter & stronger.
 
My brother has an 8 pins dropper on his Ghost path riot.

In theory is nice

In practice is a garbage that should be removed from the bike scene. No wonder it never left Germany.

1. It clunks when dropped
2. The return speed is quite slow
3. It rattles as there is a design flaw since the dropper sits in a collar that sits in the frame so no matter what you do, there is free movement there
4. That back sweep.... WHY? On a longer reach bike you have to put your saddle at the max on the rails when you try to pedal in saddle when lifted
5. Due to its proprietary collar you cannot replace it, you have to live with this piece of 💩

To anyone else saying it's nice never had one.

As for the 475 mm seat tube on a large - clearly says this bike is aimed for touring, as going down with that overhang is just horrible to ride.
 
My brother has an 8 pins dropper on his Ghost path riot.

In theory is nice

In practice is a garbage that should be removed from the bike scene. No wonder it never left Germany.

1. It clunks when dropped
2. The return speed is quite slow
3. It rattles as there is a design flaw since the dropper sits in a collar that sits in the frame so no matter what you do, there is free movement there
4. That back sweep.... WHY? On a longer reach bike you have to put your saddle at the max on the rails when you try to pedal in saddle when lifted
5. Due to its proprietary collar you cannot replace it, you have to live with this piece of 💩

To anyone else saying it's nice never had one.

As for the 475 mm seat tube on a large - clearly says this bike is aimed for touring, as going down with that overhang is just horrible to ride.
Thanks for adding this.

Leave it to Germany to offer an over complicated solution, for a problem that didn't exist. And nobody asked for.

Stay far, far away from anything proprietary in the bike industry.
 
My brother has an 8 pins dropper on his Ghost path riot.

In theory is nice

In practice is a garbage that should be removed from the bike scene. No wonder it never left Germany.

1. It clunks when dropped
2. The return speed is quite slow
3. It rattles as there is a design flaw since the dropper sits in a collar that sits in the frame so no matter what you do, there is free movement there
4. That back sweep.... WHY? On a longer reach bike you have to put your saddle at the max on the rails when you try to pedal in saddle when lifted
5. Due to its proprietary collar you cannot replace it, you have to live with this piece of 💩

To anyone else saying it's nice never had one.

As for the 475 mm seat tube on a large - clearly says this bike is aimed for touring, as going down with that overhang is just horrible to ride.
Aside from this, is it ok? 😂
 
Well, he likes it... to a point that even if he wants to replace it with anything else he can't. But we both know a One Up for example is waaaay better in every way. Personally I would never buy any bike with properiaty parts as all things fails to a point, and hates to be stuck. Had a Cannondale Jekyll in 2014 so I know the hassle
 
My brother has an 8 pins dropper on his Ghost path riot.

In theory is nice

In practice is a garbage that should be removed from the bike scene. No wonder it never left Germany.

1. It clunks when dropped
2. The return speed is quite slow
3. It rattles as there is a design flaw since the dropper sits in a collar that sits in the frame so no matter what you do, there is free movement there
4. That back sweep.... WHY? On a longer reach bike you have to put your saddle at the max on the rails when you try to pedal in saddle when lifted
5. Due to its proprietary collar you cannot replace it, you have to live with this piece of 💩

To anyone else saying it's nice never had one.

As for the 475 mm seat tube on a large - clearly says this bike is aimed for touring, as going down with that overhang is just horrible to ride.

Educational. Thanks.
 
OneUp has less than 1cm bottom collar, so it can't save 3cm either, at best it's that 1cm. But the top seat mount is like double height that of OneUp as well, so more then makes up for it on that front as well. I would say seat tube length measurement is accurate in comparison to normal bikes.
 
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