Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

[Miket775]

I'm not in the RockShox Game. Is Select Plus way different than Ultimate?

Select plus is basically an Ultimate without the buttercups

 

[Pyr0]

So, no real changes again apart from diff forks etc. Same motor.

 

[Polar]

Last year most of Specialized emtb had 2.6 width tires but now they are 2.3.
Why?

 

[neils]

Last year most of Specialized emtb had 2.6 width tires but now they are 2.3.
Why?

Probably got a shed load of 2.3 to shift!

 

[RichMorr]

Probably got a shed load of 2.3 to shift!

Yesterday at my local bike shop I saw the 2025 comp alloy. It had 2.3 tyres, maven brakes, swat and the float X factory not performance. Other than that it was identical

 

[salko]

Last year most of Specialized emtb had 2.6 width tires but now they are 2.3.
Why?

Even with gen2 Levos there was a difference in tire width, some markets got 2.3, other markets got 2.6" ....

 

[mustclime]

Short chain stays and 2.3 tires is going to climb like crap. That’s disappointing.

 

[Polar]

Short chain stays and 2.3 tires is going to climb like crap. That’s disappointing.

On both wheels or just back and why?

 

[kawamaha]

Yesterday at my local bike shop I saw the 2025 comp alloy. It had 2.3 tyres, maven brakes, swat and the float X factory not performance. Other than that it was identical

Sure? Should also have an X01 derailleur:

http://www.supercross-online.de/Z/!!!!!Levo3_Data23vs24vs25.JPG

 

[petkevich]

This is what I saw on the specialized e Enduro bikes in Loudenvielle France last week at the DH and eEDR races. Could be Levo 4?

 

[Miket775]

This is what I saw on the specialized e Enduro bikes in Loudenvielle France last week at the DH and eEDR races. Could be Levo 4?

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No - these are the DH bikes that Bruni and Finn are racing in the world cup (the covers are for the prototype shocks they use)

 

[Marshall Willanholly]

This is what I saw on the specialized e Enduro bikes in Loudenvielle France last week at the DH and eEDR races. Could be Levo 4?

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[Crow]

So like Forest Gump always said?....Stupi.................

Why? These things are priced like motorcycles, but if someone thinks the functionality of the companion app is lacking, that makes them stupid? At these prices, the value for money had better be there.

 

[Pyr0]

The joints kinda remind me of the Atherton frame

A.150 Frame

Our frame-only option comes with a RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate 205/60, custom-tuned for our DW6 platform and supplies 150mm of travel. This bike is available to buy through the cycle-to-work scheme

www.athertonbikes.com

 

[Miket775]

Looks like the only update that we'll see now this year is the update to the SL with the new Genie shocks:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-announces-genie-equipped-levo-sl.html

I guess this is a glimpse into the spec for the gen 4 bikes when/if they arrive!

 

[RichMorr]

Sure? Should also have an X01 derailleur:

http://www.supercross-online.de/Z/!!!!!Levo3_Data23vs24vs25.JPG

Never notice the derailleur, it was the fox kashima gold float X I noticed as it wasn’t in the part spec for 2025

 

[RichMorr]

Looks like the only update that we'll see now this year is the update to the SL with the new Genie shocks:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-announces-genie-equipped-levo-sl.html

I guess this is a glimpse into the spec for the gen 4 bikes when/if they arrive!

The genie on the SL has piggy back too which is different to the new Stumpjumper

 

[RichMorr]

@ 8 mins talks about the new Brose motor has just gone into production for 2025

 

[James_MTB]

So, it'll have an 814w battery.

 

[RichMorr]

So, it'll have an 814w battery.

Unless specialized uses there own battery like they did with the Gen 2 and 3 Levo

 

[James_C]

Have Brose decided to seal it against water I wonder, or will we just carry on filling them all up with sand/water/mud and wondering why they fail

 

[RichMorr]

Have Brose decided to seal it against water I wonder, or will we just carry on filling them all up with sand/water/mud and wondering why they fail

Well I saw a EMBN video at the ebike motor centre and they had the motor on the table and Jonesey was holding the motor, so I feel they have had it for testing and prob help the waterproofing.

 

[TonTonUB]

16 pages of 'SPESH next Ebike rumours'.
And no other topic about SC, RM, or any other brands ... nothing as half signifiant, anyway.
That must be depressing for many marketing directors !
I imagine their headaches, while stomping their own head on the walls ...

 

[surfshiny]

Looks like new top end 2025 SLs available on US website.

 

[zerofunds]

Just watched all the amflow reviews, I would be very worried if I was any other bike manafacturer, I'm sure the new levo will ride better than any other but the power, weight and features of the new avinox from DJi is just lightyears a head of the game.

 

[Mikerb]

An opposing view!! Not concerned about weight, no interest in fancy electronics, don't use more than half capacity on existing battery capacity and the Bosch cx provides excellent tuneable power delivery. How a bike rides is the defining factor for me together with how well it is engineered. So the DJI offers nothing new or better for me.
A Pinion mgu on the other hand does potentially deliver tangible benefits and the replacement of the derailleur drivetrain is long overdue. I will wait until a leading brand jumps on-board before getting excited about that innovation however.

 

[mustclime]

How many people coat their drowns in mud and wash them off with a hose? The biggest killer of e bikes is water . The very fact that there is no press on how water proof the dgi motor is very troubling . I pass on being a beta tester.

 

[RichMorr]

How many people coat their drowns in mud and wash them off with a hose? The biggest killer of e bikes is water . The very fact that there is no press on how water proof the dgi motor is very troubling . I pass on being a beta tester.

The DJI motor is rated at IP66 so protected from total dust ingress and protected from high-pressure water jets from any direction.


if we compare this to the specialized motor which is IP56 so protected from limited dust ingress and protected from high-pressure water jets from any direction.

 

[mustclime]

Brose motors have water issues, standards are great but how will they hold up out on the trail? Lab tests are good for a starting point but how do you simulate a peddle strike in a stream or the bike hung on the back of the car in a down poor at 100kph? Again, not interested in being a beta tester.

 

[zerofunds]

An opposing view!! Not concerned about weight, no interest in fancy electronics, don't use more than half capacity on existing battery capacity and the Bosch cx provides excellent tuneable power delivery. How a bike rides is the defining factor for me together with how well it is engineered. So the DJI offers nothing new or better for me.
A Pinion mgu on the other hand does potentially deliver tangible benefits and the replacement of the derailleur drivetrain is long overdue. I will wait until a leading brand jumps on-board before getting excited about that innovation however.

Having the bike lock and needing a pin code to use it is a great security feature, throw in an alert on the bike and your phone if the bike is moved and built in GPS tracking, I think everyone would want those features these days. It also has a feature to stop you rolling backwards on a hill and a hillstart assist mode. Lots of little features that add up to be an epic package.